CSL Race Series 09 is All Systems GO !!

[DazBlackCSL]

CSL CUP Race series for 2009 :whistle:

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[Andyk]

Are there other cars or is it just Thorney at the mo...would love to go a watch a load of CSL's racing....many signed up.

[DazBlackCSL]

So far yes quite a few ... BM Sport , Simpsons etc have all shown interest , if everyone that has expressed a good interest actually does it then 20/30 car grid ... with Dunlop Support and TV coverage :-D

[Andyk]

Thats a suprise.....look forward to going along to watch so great live racing then. :thumbs:

[DazBlackCSL]

Also M3's racing as well , std and modded , and full race ... M3 and CSL .. im butchering my old M3 E46 to race ..Stripped / cage / AP's etc .. not racing the CSL .. keeping it fairly std :wink: as a road car ... as im getting carried away already !..

[SpineOnABap]

So far yes quite a few ... BM Sport , Simpsons etc have all shown interest , if everyone that has expressed a good interest actually does it then 20/30 car grid ... with Dunlop Support and TV coverage :-D


:-D "Interest" is one thing.... I used to get loads of "interest" when I tried to arrange normal trackdays, up to the point they had to commit :-D

[DazBlackCSL]

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[DazBlackCSL]

So far yes quite a few ... BM Sport , Simpsons etc have all shown interest , if everyone that has expressed a good interest actually does it then 20/30 car grid ... with Dunlop Support and TV coverage :-D


:-D "Interest" is one thing.... I used to get loads of "interest" when I tried to arrange normal trackdays, up to the point they had to commit :-D

Yep totally agree :wink:

[_Nathan_]

I was really, really interested but as time goes on I'm still waiting to see regs and am concerned they'll be too restrictive, as it is I am carrying on modding my car and if it fits the series then great, if not I'll find somewhere else to do some racing in it.

Should be called the M3 cup as most of the grid will be normal M3s.

Had already bought a Drexler plated diff and 4.1 final drive so that is going in, if the modified class doesn't allow it then I'll have to go elsewhere.

[shimmy]

Nathan

What do they do then?

Come on teach us thickos a thing or two!

[_Nathan_]

Diff is more aggressive lockup which can be adjusted with shims, other have said it gives awesome traction but I can't confirm that until I've used it! Hopefully be more reliable too. Downside is the grating \ chuntering noises like a GT3 Cup diff.

Final drive is for better acceleration at the expense of low geared crusing and a little bit of top end.

Standard is 3.6 which gives a geared top speed of 206 in 6th which will never be reached anyway, with the 4.1 final drive 6th gear will hit 8200 rpm at 181 mph which might just be reachable.

downside is 4.5k rpm at 100mph cruise.

circa 10% more torque at the wheels so hopefully a similar improvement in acceleration...

[Andyk]

Ahhh all types of M3, it all makes sense now....did wonder how the organisers manage to get 20 to 30 CSL's with only 422 produced over here.

[E46ACS]

I would be very interested in going to watch.

When the calender of races is produced, maybe we should arrange a CSLregister stand at one (maybe more) race? Be a great meet for members on here for next year.

Maybe even work with the organisers and have a parade lap?

The CSL's that are racing, need a cslregister sticker on them at the very least!

[E46ACS]

Is there an outline schedule of circuits/dates availible now?

Or does anyone know when this is going to be coming out?

[englebert]

So why is it called a CSL Cup if all M3s are allowed.... :whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

So why is it called a CSL Cup if all M3s are allowed.... :whistle:

Prob Because the CSL's will be taking the Cups !! :whistle:

[_Nathan_]

depends what is allowed in the modified class, if anything goes I can see the Simpson M3 GTR taking a few cups...

[DazBlackCSL]

True .. it will def be interesting to watch with all different classes in , and a good driver in std could be better than a pants driver in the modded :-D

[Thorney]

Nathan your (im)patience will soon be rewarded, would you rather we rushed it and got it wrong or were deliberate and got it right?

You question over a diff is an interesting one, as you say its use for the road is completely absurd (have you actually driven one on the road - its nigh on unuseable) but maybe an interesting one for the modified class. Its completely out for the stock class of course.

One thing to remember when modding a car to go racing, if you just accept all the things told you by your tuner/team you will simply hand them money for no reason (other than putting their kids through college), it is better to choose a race series to compete in an then build accordingly, never really works (for the owner) the other way round, trust me.

It maywell be that diffs will be banned from modified class, I'm not sure, in which case you might as well carry on and spend another £30-40k and get it to GTR spec and run it in VLN, Britcar etc and thats great if thats what you want to race in, but if you want sprint races then I'd hold off just for the moment (just my opinion of course)

[_Nathan_]

I'd rather you got it right obviously, and I'd love to be there, even if it is just being slow in the modified class. Just getting impatient with having parts sat waiting to fit :D

I'm aware it'll be noisy on the road, am getting a slow, boring, sensible, practical car for daily duty.

[_Nathan_]

PS, my goal is endurance racing one day so when I saw the diff for sale second hand for a bargain price I couldn't help myself.

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Will the modified group be allowed to run Drexler or
AN.other uprated rear LSD ?

I would argue that its the same difference as say
AP's or Alcons, or say additional oil or water cooling,
they all do the same job, its just that some do it better,
ie- Modified ?

If Modified cars are prohibited from running Grp A type adjustable
front arms, or multi link rears, proper sequential gearboxes,
Standalone ECU, then I can understand better as
to why some arguement could be made, but items like
cooling, braking, LSD lock up, which is what a Drexler basically
is, would seem acceptable to a modified class ?.

Clarification appreciated please, ASAP, as I was just starting
to look into Grp A arms and a Multi Link rear end.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[spanner]

nathan - if you do the race series and don't use the diff, give me a shout please.

Cheers

[Thorney]

The diff issue is an interesting one and in part is based on longevity so it may well be allowed (no promises as yet). However, I'd be pretty confident that adjustable front arms and different rear suspension angles will be prohibited. Rear coil overs will be allowed (in modified class) I would say but retaining standard attachments and positioning.