how do You solve the back when cage is in?

[Kislik]

mine will come soon and I see 2 issues. firstly i need somehow cover the metal when rear seats are gone, thats easy by some carpet. The second one is that when rear seats are off there is a hole from the boot to interior what is unlikely. How do You colse it? some CF panel or so?


or just an idea, can the rear seats stay in with cage? not for sitting of course

[Florian]

I wonder if the Raven E46 Cage would fit the CSL :
http://www.ravenperformance.com/products/rollbars.php

Some DIYs :
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=254359
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=253244

I think that this rollbar is the best as it does not require welding or anything.

Florian

[Kislik]

I'll have Wiechers cage which is designed specially for CSL to not touch the side CF panels

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I'll have Wiechers cage which is designed specially for CSL to not touch the side CF panels
Is that a full or half cage, just got mine only rear cage it is a tight fit :whistle:but a nice bit of kit.

[Kislik]

Is that a full or half cage, just got mine only rear cage it is a tight fit :whistle:but a nice bit of kit.

yes just rear.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I wonder if the Raven E46 Cage would fit the CSL :
http://www.ravenperformance.com/products/rollbars.php

Some DIYs :
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=254359
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=253244

I think that this rollbar is the best as it does not require welding or anything.

Florian
The m3forum cage is clever the way you don't have to drill holes, but should the cage not sit tight to the floor

[Kislik]

I don't think it's a problem to drill couple holes, they can be easily covered and hidden when the cage goes out one day

[Florian]

The m3forum cage is clever the way you don't have to drill holes, but should the cage not sit tight to the floor

I'm not sure, but in the case you flip the car, the cage will just get pushed against the floor. I don't think it's a big issue.

I really think that this roll bar is very well made, and is a simple bolt-in solution.

[pinkpanther008]

I know some search for the holly grail, ie a cage that when removed leaves no witness buuut:

Im no structural engineer, in a roll-over situation would this cage crush and the moving bars be more of a hindrance/danger than a saviour???

The racers / cage experts with more experience than me might be able to qualify this but i wouldn't want to install a cage for appearance purposes only?!

What do you chaps think?

[karbonkid]

Depending on intensions of usage (looks OK for show only), I would not want to rely on a cage for track/ Ring that is attached to the floor with only 1 small bolt on each corners (4x bolts for the entire cage work). I see this as being more dangerous than good. More to the point a 2/ 3mm plate welded is minimal, even for a bolt in IMO.

I can't see it given any structural support to the car, adding stiffness or preventing flex either.

For someone going down this route its clear that you don't want to weld/ drill into the bodywork but theres no real substitute.

[s.mac]

I was going to go down this route, something like Alex (karbonkid) has done but I changed my mind when I saw the work required and it really can't be reversed.
I saw the necessity of a cage when a car is properly driven and believe me you don't want to just have it held in with a few bolts. An MG ZR spun into the pit wall and the car was a total right off but the guy walked out, although I bet he's sore the cage did its job!!

[shimmy]

Depending on intensions of usage (looks OK for show only), I would not want to rely on a cage for track/ Ring that is attached to the floor with only 1 small bolt on each corners (4x bolts for the entire cage work). I see this as being more dangerous than good. More to the point a 2/ 3mm plate welded is minimal, even for a bolt in IMO.

I can't see it given any structural support to the car, adding stiffness or preventing flex either.

For someone going down this route its clear that you don't want to weld/ drill into the bodywork but theres no real substitute.

i agree

as much as i would want a cage on the ring, i wouldnt want this one.

id rather rely on the car and aurbags than have some spurioysly attached metal tubes flying around the cockpit

maybe check if it is FIA or MSA approved.

[Barry C]

can you guys post pic's of your cages?:beer:

[karbonkid]

can you guys post pic's of your cages?:beer:

Out all day. Will dig out pix later this eve/ tom when back.

[Kislik]

can you guys post pic's of your cages?:beer:

and please add pics of the back

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I would want a cage to be bolted to the floor, that cage looks good but in a roll will break the bolts and go forward looking at the angle it sits at.

[Kislik]

ok this is what i looked for, Wiechers cage and looks like rear seats can stay in. Any other picture without the seats?

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/955/img0120oa.jpg