C63

[hoshy]

Evening chaps,

Who has had a good blat against a C63?

Its not that often that I seen one to play with and remember having my arse handed to me in the e36 (expected :)) but tonight I kept up and outran one a number of times.

Not yet checkes the p/w ratio on the 63 but expect it should win.

Was this guy not trying hard or is the CSL more of a match than I thought?

For context this was medium traffic autobahn so lots of 100 to 150 runs. I was redlining 4th to 5th.

Btw - what are the accepted best upshift points? Get the feeling redlining past 3rd isnt worth it.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

What is a C63 :(

[shane@mbtech]

In a straighth line the C63 is quite an animal, even more so with performance pack power upgrade. almost 500bhp.

A CSL wont keep up in a straightline thats for sure.


I have a good background in all things AMG and M too.

I suspect his car may be sick, or just poorly maintained and an early one- even so it should have kicked your ass.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Must be a Merc then :)

[shane@mbtech]

Must be a Merc then :)

Aye, and a very nice one too IMO, its on my radar for next car:notworthy:

[hoshy]

Agreed - it's an awesome car. I'll be very tempted to have one in future but I just can't tear myself away from BMWs.

Guess this guy just must have not been giving it 110% commitement. Maybe having whatever kind of sport modes etc turned off.

Just had a quick look at the p/w figures and it's closer than I thought,

CSL: 1385kg / 360ps == 260ps/ton
C63: 1723 / 451 == 262

Weights are probably not accurate for all the usual reasons but even so, it clearly puts them in the same league on a p/w basis. Of course the extra torque and 7 speed box will still give the merc the adv. He was two up also, there was only my skinny arse in the car and I was low on juice too.

[AlexGTT]

Agreed - it's an awesome car. I'll be very tempted to have one in future but I just can't tear myself away from BMWs.

Guess this guy just must have not been giving it 110% commitement. Maybe having whatever kind of sport modes etc turned off.

Just had a quick look at the p/w figures and it's closer than I thought,

CSL: 1385kg / 360ps == 260ps/ton
C63: 1723 / 451 == 262

Weights are probably not accurate for all the usual reasons but even so, it clearly puts them in the same league on a p/w basis. Of course the extra torque and 7 speed box will still give the merc the adv. He was two up also, there was only my skinny arse in the car and I was low on juice too.

P/W won't make that performance up in that kind of roll on. Power talks so strongly suspect wasn't fully on it. He should have easily out-pulled you. Maybe he just wanted to hear the CSL in all it's full noise glory.;)

My E90 is much faster than a CSL in that speed range and I know it's slightly slower than a C63 in a straight line.

[shane@mbtech]

P/W won't make that performance up in that kind of roll on. Power talks so strongly suspect wasn't fully on it. He should have easily out-pulled you. Maybe he just wanted to hear the CSL in all it's full noise glory.;)

My E90 is much faster than a CSL in that speed range and I know it's slightly slower than a C63 in a straight line.

Was about to say that, my e92 pulled away from Csl in straight line, and c63 has edge on e92.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a c63. Just waiting for my sales guy to return from holiday. I'll gladly take it on track to show the csl's a clean pair of heels only for them to pass me as I'm leaving a smoke screen going round the next corner. Not quite as nimble as the m cars. :wink:

[shimmy]

:wink:Was about to say that, my e92 pulled away from Csl in straight line, and c63 has edge on e92.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a c63. Just waiting for my sales guy to return from holiday. I'll gladly take it on track to show the csl's a clean pair of heels only for them to pass me as I'm leaving a smoke screen going round the next corner. Not quite as nimble as the m cars. :wink:

i think the main thing youll notice lawsy is your use of tyres increases and also people start trying to flag you down after 10pm at night

[CraigMillwardCroft]

:wink:

i think the main thing youll notice lawsy is your use of tyres increases and also people start trying to flag you down after 10pm at night

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[jamesp]

Ive just sold my c63 PP and can safely say it a quicker car in a straight line,Do miss al that torque.

[GTAStradale]

Yes yes its a funny animal. I test drove one 2 years ago and liked it quite a lot. Exciting to drive. Back than i had e92 m3 anf thought c63 was more entertaining and uncontrollable :supz:

Not sure though i liked the gearbox, seemed too soft somehow.

Straight line.....obviosly it eats the csl alive. But hey, sooner or later there is a corner coming :birdman:

[ericyiu6883]

i used to have a C63 with chipped, on a straght line for sure the 6.2 V8 will be quicker then the CSL. But the handling of the CSL is totally different story. :supz:

[Chris-CSL]

below is the link from a TG episode where the Stig takes a C63, M3 and a Audi RS around some private track on a timed trial. The M3 won with the C63 coming 2nd (think it went through several set of rears before it finished its lap :-D and Audi last.

Its a a Beast of a Car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaZExdTHHjY