inspection 1 service price. expensive or acceptable?

[dave wilkinson]

due a inspection 1 in 5000 miles and got the ring in two weeks so when back from there its pretty much due. went in for a price and the guy said they have a deal on at the min £669. i said 'thats not bad does that include, plugs, air filter, diff oil'. he said no its basically a oil service with a very good fine tooth comb check over, and check sheet included. i said do you check the valve clearances for that and is a rocker cover gasket replaced and he looked at this college a bit shocked and said i don't think so. checked on the web and they should be checked but never really get checked by bmw. :119:

now just a oil service is £169, its it just me or even if they do check the clearances does a inspection 1 sound steep?

for the record i won't be taking it there (not wanting to name) as not sure how good there m techey is. but bmw will be doing it.

que the 'get it booked in you tight cunt comments' :hahaha::thumbs:

[conleth m3]

sounds alot for a glorified oil service? how much will airfilter/diff oil/etc add to the total bill?

[dave wilkinson]

basically me and my uncle run a family garage (we'v been there 30 years). not me tho i'm not that old :hahaha: looking on the web site and goin through whats checked its all very basic! especially when my cars always on the ramp getting pampered for no reason so i know its fine. i know its part of csl ownership just think its a bit robbing, my just be me tho :whistle:
inspection 2 in £900

i know from my previous m3 plugs are £80 (and head gaskets are £90 :hahaha:)

copyed from website-


Body/electrical equipment.

Lighting system is checked.
Instrument panel, dashboard illumination, and heater blower fan are checked.
Horn, headlight flasher and hazard warning system are checked.
Condition of seat belt, function of automatic-locking retractor, belt lock and belt buckle are checked.
Acid level and state-of-charge in battery are checked and charged if required.**
Microfilter or activated charcoal filter are replaced.**
Change M-Mobility System sealant bottle after 3 years.
Check entire body, except cavities, for corrosion.
Engine compartment.

Test with diagnostic system is performed to determine if any faults have been automatically recorded by the vehicle.
Motor oil and oil filter are removed and replaced with new oil and filter.
Check valve clearance, adjust if necessary.
Coolant levels are checked; when refilled, concentration of fluid is checked.
At the corresponding interval coolant is changed (every four years at the latest), fluid is added as needed.**
Service interval indicator is reset according to factory specifications.
Fluid level and antifreeze additive in windscreen washer fluid reservoir are checked and topped up if needed.
Steering fluid reservoir is checked and fluid is topped up if needed.
At the corresponding interval brake fluid is replaced (every two years at the latest).**
Chassis area.

Front and rear pads – Remove and install wheels, check total thickness. Brake discs: check surface and thickness. Grease wheel centring mount on alloy wheels. At rear check parking brake linings.
Steering system is checked for play, leakage, damage and wear.
Undercarriage and body including all visible parts are checked for damage, leakage, corrosion.
Brake system cables and connections are checked for leaks, damage and correct positioning.
Functionality of parking brake is checked and adjusted where needed according to regulations.
Tyre pressure is checked and adjusted where needed (including spare wheel), and external condition, tread depth and wear pattern are checke

[mattCSLnut]

Hi Dave. Good shout regarding what's actually involved during Inspection service. My Cecil is about 1200 miles away from it's Inspection 1 :smokin:
BTW does the info you've posted below relate to Inspection 1 or Inspection 2 check list ? :smt017

basically me and my uncle run a family garage (we'v been there 30 years). not me tho i'm not that old :hahaha: looking on the web site and goin through whats checked its all very basic! especially when my cars always on the ramp getting pampered for no reason so i know its fine. i know its part of csl ownership just think its a bit robbing, my just be me tho :whistle:
inspection 2 in £900

i know from my previous m3 plugs are £80 (and head gaskets are £90 :hahaha:)

copyed from website-


Body/electrical equipment.

Lighting system is checked.
Instrument panel, dashboard illumination, and heater blower fan are checked.
Horn, headlight flasher and hazard warning system are checked.
Condition of seat belt, function of automatic-locking retractor, belt lock and belt buckle are checked.
Acid level and state-of-charge in battery are checked and charged if required.**
Microfilter or activated charcoal filter are replaced.**
Change M-Mobility System sealant bottle after 3 years.
Check entire body, except cavities, for corrosion.
Engine compartment.

Test with diagnostic system is performed to determine if any faults have been automatically recorded by the vehicle.
Motor oil and oil filter are removed and replaced with new oil and filter.
Check valve clearance, adjust if necessary.
Coolant levels are checked; when refilled, concentration of fluid is checked.
At the corresponding interval coolant is changed (every four years at the latest), fluid is added as needed.**
Service interval indicator is reset according to factory specifications.
Fluid level and antifreeze additive in windscreen washer fluid reservoir are checked and topped up if needed.
Steering fluid reservoir is checked and fluid is topped up if needed.
At the corresponding interval brake fluid is replaced (every two years at the latest).**
Chassis area.

Front and rear pads – Remove and install wheels, check total thickness. Brake discs: check surface and thickness. Grease wheel centring mount on alloy wheels. At rear check parking brake linings.
Steering system is checked for play, leakage, damage and wear.
Undercarriage and body including all visible parts are checked for damage, leakage, corrosion.
Brake system cables and connections are checked for leaks, damage and correct positioning.
Functionality of parking brake is checked and adjusted where needed according to regulations.
Tyre pressure is checked and adjusted where needed (including spare wheel), and external condition, tread depth and wear pattern are checke

[giraffe]

Hi Dave. Good shout regarding what's actually involved during Inspection service. My Cecil is about 1200 miles away from it's Inspection 1 :smokin:
BTW does the info you've posted below relate to Inspection 1 or Inspection 2 check list ? :smt017
Inspection 1 check sheet .
£699 goin rate for inspection 1 and yes valve clearances are checked and adjusted its the labour for doin them propaly that you pay for , hope this helps

[billyboysm3]

Elms prices Emma emailed me:
M3 E46
Oil Service £169.00
Inspection I Service £699.00
Inspection II Service £799.00

Billy

[dave wilkinson]

Inspection 1 check sheet .
£699 goin rate for inspection 1 and yes valve clearances are checked and adjusted its the labour for doin them propaly that you pay for , hope this helps


giraffe we all know 90% of dealers arn't doin the clearances, but chances are they don't admit it. i know elms can be trust tho :thumbs:out of interest how many e46 m3's actually need adjusting when they go in for servicing? reason i ask is mine will be goin in next week and i'll be asking for a report/spec of the ones that needed doin.

just wish i could do them and stamp the book but i think at resale time it may scare a few people off :banghead:

[giraffe]

giraffe we all know 90% of dealers arn't doin the clearances, but chances are they don't admit it. i know elms can be trust tho :thumbs:out of interest how many e46 m3's actually need adjusting when they go in for servicing? reason i ask is mine will be goin in next week and i'll be asking for a report/spec of the ones that needed doin.

just wish i could do them and stamp the book but i think at resale time it may scare a few people off :banghead:
taking a adverage most cars need some sort of adjustment even tho it may only be a couple of them that need adjusting , the norm is about 6 will require reshimming , depends on how hard its been driven aswell , if driven hard inlet clearances can sometimes get smaller .

[dave wilkinson]

thank you giraffe, got a phone call today saying service was complete and my car was mint and needed no attention. they said all shims were in spec and did'nt need adjusting. i'v been abit cheeky and marked nuts under the plastic 'M' cover, so when i get it back tomo will check its been apart :hahaha: god i hate customers like me :smt053:hahaha:

[shimmy]

thank you giraffe, got a phone call today saying service was complete and my car was mint and needed no attention. they said all shims were in spec and did'nt need adjusting. i'v been abit cheeky and marked nuts under the plastic 'M' cover, so when i get it back tomo will check its been apart :hahaha: god i hate customers like me :smt053:hahaha:

Uh oh :-D

I can now hear Giraffe getting back into his car nd popping back into work a bit early :)

[shane@mbtech]

Uh oh :-D

I can now hear Giraffe getting back into his car nd popping back into work a bit early :)

I was going to type exactly the same thing.

|We thinnks dave may have shown his hand too early:whistle:

[shimmy]

I was going to type exactly the same thing.

|We thinnks dave may have shown his hand too early:whistle:

Maybe he had second thoughts and just being polite, or maybe he is just winding him up :-D

[giraffe]

Uh oh :-D

I can now hear Giraffe getting back into his car nd popping back into work a bit early :)
No need he didnt bring it to me :(

[Bounce]

Uh oh :-D

I can now hear Giraffe getting back into his car nd popping back into work a bit early :):hahaha::hahaha:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Uh oh :-D

I can now hear Giraffe getting back into his car nd popping back into work a bit early :)
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

No need he didnt bring it to me :(
That's why he marked his nuts !!! :whistle:

[Chris-CSL]

A very intresting Topic and My Baby coming up for a Insp 1 so looks like I be taking it to Giraffe to be pampered However could I have some Contact Information so I can arrange a day :)

[giraffe]

A very intresting Topic and My Baby coming up for a Insp 1 so looks like I be taking it to Giraffe to be pampered However could I have some Contact Information so I can arrange a day :)

Number is 01954 784500 let them no your a csl customer and ask to speak to Emma .
Look forward to seeing you soon :-D

[Chris-CSL]

Many thanks and will be sorting that out :)

[Spooks]

The Inspection 1 to me is the biggest rip off going, for what they actually do it is nothing but a glorified oil service. The things that do get "inspected" are all chargeable items so your paying a guy a lot of money to check things that take 10 mins - and then they will charge more if they need doing, valve clearances aside that i would agree rarely get checked as they don't ask for the car the morning before so the engine is cold.

That is one of my biggest annoyances owning an M...if you couldn't tell!

[Spooks]

Looks like the prices advised are part of a bigger scheme - they are even making a point that they are doing valve clearances!

http://bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/owner/service_value/mcars/?gclid=COW7iKeM168CFYsntAodRj-HAA

[monkeycsl]

Not worth bothering with inspection 1 for price difference just get inspection 2 done and get new plugs fuel filter valves checked diff and gearbox oil all for £100 more bargain.:whistle:

[shimmy]

Not worth bothering with inspection 1 for price difference just get inspection 2 done and get new plugs fuel filter valves checked diff and gearbox oil all for £100 more bargain.:whistle:

If thats right then you are correct, worth paying the £100 for the extras

[monkeycsl]

I know my new m3 by the service book is due inspection 1 in a year but for peace of mind. I will just book it for inspection 2 so will know all major things will be replaced will prob do the same with csl from now on too.I wonder though those with warranty can you say you want to skip basic one for inspection 2? :ban:

[dave wilkinson]

don't get me wrong £669 for a inspection 1 it not all that dear. but please note when taking it to a dealer make sure they do the clearences as i recon there's 2.5hrs labour (roughly) to do them and at there labour rate of £140 per hour plus vat it soon adds up. the point i'm trying to make is make sure they do them as other wise your getting ripped off. i had to tell my dealer in the nicest possible way that i run a garage and if there not done they'll be trouble! you could tell by there face they were'nt planning on doin them. very easy to tell if its been apart aswel as there should be a fresh rocker cover gasket.

only difference for inspec 2 is. plugs, air filter and diff oil (on request) :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

don't get me wrong £669 for a inspection 1 it not all that dear. but please note when taking it to a dealer make sure they do the clearences as i recon there's 2.5hrs labour (roughly) to do them and at there labour rate of £140 per hour plus vat it soon adds up. the point i'm trying to make is make sure they do them as other wise your getting ripped off. i had to tell my dealer in the nicest possible way that i run a garage and if there not done they'll be trouble! you could tell by there face they were'nt planning on doin them. very easy to tell if its been apart aswel as there should be a fresh rocker cover gasket.

only difference for inspec 2 is. plugs, air filter and diff oil (on request) :thumbs:

Were your valve clearances done Dave?

[dave wilkinson]

yes mate as far as i'm aware. fresh gasket, bolts all tight ect

been meaning text you. do you use the launch scanner? if so ever reset the clutch curve for the smg by using it? reason i ask is starting to get a slight bit of slur in higher gears. the scanner goes into the smg side and gives a few options. reset clutch curve and reset adaptations being two of them. i don't wanna fuck around resetting everything without knowing which one to reset.
failing that i'll get onto there tech help next week as there after service is quite good.

[Bounce]

don't get me wrong £669 for a inspection 1 it not all that dear. but please note when taking it to a dealer make sure they do the clearences as i recon there's 2.5hrs labour (roughly) to do them and at there labour rate of £140 per hour plus vat it soon adds up. the point i'm trying to make is make sure they do them as other wise your getting ripped off. i had to tell my dealer in the nicest possible way that i run a garage and if there not done they'll be trouble! you could tell by there face they were'nt planning on doin them. very easy to tell if its been apart aswel as there should be a fresh rocker cover gasket.

only difference for inspec 2 is. plugs, air filter and diff oil (on request) :thumbs:I may do this on my insp1,the air filter is around 80 quid from BMW:thumbs:

[shimmy]

I may do this on my insp1,the air filter is around 80 quid from BMW:thumbs:

If you keep highlighting this, they are gonna change their prices.:moan:

[Bounce]

If you keep highlighting this, they are gonna change their prices.:moan:Won't mention it again;)

[giraffe]

The Inspection 1 to me is the biggest rip off going, for what they actually do it is nothing but a glorified oil service. The things that do get "inspected" are all chargeable items so your paying a guy a lot of money to check things that take 10 mins - and then they will charge more if they need doing, valve clearances aside that i would agree rarely get checked as they don't ask for the car the morning before so the engine is cold.

That is one of my biggest annoyances owning an M...if you couldn't tell!
We ask for the car the day before for that very reason :-D