The dreaded MPG question

[CSK423]

Apologies if this has been asked before, I done a search on the forum and found no info.

I've been looking at the costs of buying a CSL and trying to keep it on the road financially. Probably not the top of most peeps agenda on here but can anybody advise on the fuel consumption ?

I done a quick guesstimate that these run at 20p a mile but I'm pretty sure that's not realisitic in day to day life :)

Thanks for any info

[Bravo73]

22-24mpg average.

30ish at an 80mph cruise; 9-12 around the track. :smt077

[CSK423]

So on Average then around 20p a mile.....

Best case 15p and......

Track case 48p :rolleyes:

Currently doing 2/3k miles a month meaning around £400 to 600.

Not TOO scary then

cheers

[cslbecks]

Im seeing an average of 19mpg on the computer - but thats shortish shuttle runs and once engine is warm its sport button ON and foot to floor!!

[RichW]

I find the fuel computer is 2-3mpg out - the wrong way :lol:

True mpg i get 23mpg @ 80mph cruise, but my car could well be mapped, not sure until i get her on the dyno.

[cslbecks]

Either way - i always fill up with Shell V-max/Optimax whatever its called - and i rarely get more than 200 miles to a full tank.

[Bravo73]

So on Average then around 20p a mile.....


No idea when it comes to 'pence per mile', I'm afraid. There seems little point trying to calculate it this way when petrol prices fluctuate so much...

[GT TWO]

Just drive it :-D

[glendog74]

i rarely get more than 200 miles to a full tank.

Blimey! :eek: Are you driving an Evo FQ340?!

I'm similar to Bravo73. If i'm very careful (boring) with the right foot, i can squeeze 350ish miles from a full tank. That's long haul motorway driving at a steady 85mph and a little 'A' roads 50-70mph.

My car is Stage 1 tune (370bhp running Shell V-Power) :)

[cslbecks]

Glen - im rarely "careful/boring" when driving the CSL - as soon as i hear that induction roar all hell breaks loose!! That said i genuinely dont believe its possible to get 350 miles to a tank - no way!!!!???? Are you sure that your Stage 1 tune didnt involve putting a diesel engine in as a replacement!!!??

[Rags]

300 max for me! :thumbs:

[Mark CSL]

I can get 34mpg at 80mph
or 12mpg on track :thumbs:

The 12mpg is great FUN :hahaha:

[CSK423]

I can get 34mpg at 80mph
or 12mpg on track :thumbs:

The 12mpg is great FUN :hahaha:

Mark noticed you're in Scotland do you often visit knockhill ?

Th reason I ask is a friend of mine takes part in alot of trackdays at Knocky and mentioned a Black CSL tearing up the track alot. When I suggested getting a CSL he was more than conviced this was a very convincing car after seeing it on track.

I love the broad range of MPG suggested, so far we have 7 to 34 :)

[Mark CSL]

I can get 34mpg at 80mph
or 12mpg on track :thumbs:

The 12mpg is great FUN :hahaha:

Mark noticed you're in Scotland do you often visit knockhill ?

Th reason I ask is a friend of mine takes part in alot of trackdays at Knocky and mentioned a Black CSL tearing up the track alot. When I suggested getting a CSL he was more than conviced this was a very convincing car after seeing it on track.

I love the broad range of MPG suggested, so far we have 7 to 34 :)

Yip that will be me there most days that it is on :thumbs:

[Bravo73]

Th reason I ask is a friend of mine takes part in alot of trackdays at Knocky and mentioned a Black CSL tearing up the track alot.

Anything like this?



http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/markcsl/2714300540_8794ae423b_b.jpg

Mark - your reputation preceeds you! But if you're only getting 12mpg, you're not trying hard enough. You need to get it into single digits... :supz:

[CSK423]

Brilliant :D

I've noticed a company called Nick Johnson in Oxfordshire have a number of CSL's in, anyone dealt with this business before ?

They also have one of those "Saphire Black faster than Silver grey" CSL's in priced £500 more than a car which has 7k miles less.

Are the Black ones really that much faster :hahaha:

[Mark CSL]

Why dont you ask him
Nick Johnson is a member on here :whistle:
I am sure there will be a reason why it is £500 more and i dont think black or grey has any thing to do with it :hahaha:

And yes the black 1s are faster :gayfight:

[shimmy]

Why dont you ask him
Nick Johnson is a member on here :whistle:
I am sure there will be a reason why it is £500 more and i dont think black or grey has any thing to do with it :hahaha:

And yes the black 1s are faster :gayfight:

and the black ones seem to do 12mpg on track whereas the grey ones only do 7-8mpg

[Bravo73]

I've noticed a company called Nick Johnson in Oxfordshire have a number of CSL's in, anyone dealt with this business before ?

Caveat emptor.

[shimmy]

Carcelius est in horto :blalalala:

[glendog74]

Glen - im rarely "careful/boring" when driving the CSL - as soon as i hear that induction roar all hell breaks loose!! That said i genuinely dont believe its possible to get 350 miles to a tank - no way!!!!???? Are you sure that your Stage 1 tune didnt involve putting a diesel engine in as a replacement!!!??

Mate, i'm rarely careful or boring either driving the CSL for the very same reasons that you mention, but on the odd occaision when i have had to travel long distances (e.g. to the Ring), i have had a genuine 350 miles range (according to the trip comp) - no devil's diesel involved! :blalalala:

[Mark CSL]

Why dont you ask him
Nick Johnson is a member on here :whistle:
I am sure there will be a reason why it is £500 more and i dont think black or grey has any thing to do with it :hahaha:

And yes the black 1s are faster :gayfight:

and the black ones seem to do 12mpg on track whereas the grey ones only do 7-8mpg

And better on Fuel as well now thats a bonus :whistle:

[cslbecks]

Bravo, i will see your Caveat Emptor and raise you an Uberimae Fidei.

[Bravo73]

Indeed. And the establishment in question might well be lacking 'utmost good faith'.


And shimms is talking about gardens for some reason... :blalalala:

[cslbecks]

Dont tell me you did a bloody law degree as well!!!!?? I did mine at Notts and Law School too.

[Jaw_F430]

Brilliant :D

I've noticed a company called Nick Johnson in Oxfordshire have a number of CSL's in, anyone dealt with this business before ?

They also have one of those "Saphire Black faster than Silver grey" CSL's in priced £500 more than a car which has 7k miles less.

Are the Black ones really that much faster :hahaha:


I have been to see one of Nick Johnsons cars and he is a top guy. He shows you how the car should be driven with the SMG box (not like when you go to a BMW dealer and the sales guy thinks he knows how to use the SMG box) and I would of bought the one I test drove if the lower mileage one from BMW I did buy was not available.

I would have no worries doing business with Nick


Hope this helps


James

[Bravo73]

I would have no worries doing business with Nick


Ask derek for some of the details about dealing with Nick Johnson. He outlined a few of the issues in a thread on here but that thread has now been deleted. Like I said, 'caveat emptor'. And I mean it in it's most literal sense.



Dont tell me you did a bloody law degree as well!!!!?? I did mine at Notts and Law School too.

No chance! I'm far too sensible for that. :blalalala:

[cslbecks]

Hope youre not a rozzer then!!!?? That said, most rozzers would probably think that was Russian!!!

[englebert]

Nick Johson's is ok, you get to see a lot of CSLs. I would argue that there is no real benefit with buying a car over him than a private seller though.

[glendog74]

He shows you how the car should be driven with the SMG box (not like when you go to a BMW dealer and the sales guy thinks he knows how to use the SMG box)

I have to second that! He let me have a 'proper' test drive in a SB CSL and took the time to explain a lot of stuff when BMW dealers annoyingly know so little about the car!

I found his cars a tad pricey with their non-AUC warranty so i bought mine private sale in the end, but he's a nice guy for sure. :thumbs:

[Andyk]

Yep give him a chance. A fair few have purchased from him and are pleased and OK sounds like Bravo73 isn't a fan but go and see for yourself I say......make your own mind up.

Caveat emptor - Let the buyer beware.....surely that includes every car you go and look at before buying.

[derek]

i had no issues with Nick, i just made the comment that i knew one of the cars had an accident, Nick didn't think it had. i just about bought it from a main dealer. I had an rac inspection on the car, apart from the accident it was a good car 18 months ago. I only posted because of how i felt when i just about bought the car