1M v CSL at ring

[Yanto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPXDz72MdaE

pinched off PH...

[mattCSLnut]

Under steer :banghead: over steer :banghead: under steer :banghead: then over steer, followed by more of the same :clown: just to keep up with the old Cecil :smokin:
If that was T$ in the CSL the 1M wouldn't stand a chance of keeping up ;) :hahaha:

[shimmy]

I like the way the GT 3 just sailed past. :supz:

[mattCSLnut]

I like the way the GT 3 just sailed past. :supz:
Yep :notworthy: they have a habit of doing that :bigcry:

[shimmy]

Yep :notworthy: they have a habit of doing that :bigcry:

996gt3

CSL is in theory faster..........:smokin:

[Rutkowski]

pointless comparison... different tyres, different drivers and so on. CSL looked more comfortable though.... but there's one clear winner there... GT3. No arguments there. :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

Too fidgety to be really fast, wheel base effecting?

To be fair though the CSL was slightly fettled, so a fair comparison would be a modified 1M.

The CSL looked really planted though:smokin:

Pork rules. :smt055

[mattCSLnut]

996gt3

CSL is in theory faster..........:smokin:
... but not always in practice it seems ;) :hahaha:
That Cecil looked very composed, though a bit slow :whistle:

[shimmy]

Pork rules. :smt055

Turbo again?

Of Gayman S PDK?

[northernjim]

Yep :notworthy: they have a habit of doing that :bigcry:

fekkin 'ell matt you don't let gt3's duff you up do you?:hahaha::gayfight:

[shane@mbtech]

Turbo again?

Of Gayman S PDK?

Im out for a while Shim, no plans to buy anything until march next yr.
Really really busy at work, missing valuable time with the kids and mrs. And I have too many toys that need to go so need to put the next couple of months into getting the shit rid.

[shimmy]

Im out for a while Shim, no plans to buy anything until march next yr.
Really really busy at work, missing valuable time with the kids and mrs. And I have too many toys that need to go so need to put the next couple of months into getting the shit rid.


Cool..............land rover defender is always a good buy at times like these :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

fekkin 'ell matt you don't let gt3's duff you up do you?:hahaha::gayfight:

No Jim :gayfight: just the GT3 RS variants ;)

[TANKSLAPPER]

Under steer :banghead: over steer :banghead: under steer :banghead: then over steer, followed by more of the same :clown: just to keep up with the old Cecil :smokin:
If that was T$ in the CSL the 1M wouldn't stand a chance of keeping up ;) :hahaha:


Thankyou...........:beer:
There were some very poor lines and the time 8'20" isn't that quick. :bigcry:

It's easier following whilst the front car clears the way. I won't be exchanging the CSL for one :whistle:

T$

[mattCSLnut]

Thankyou...........:beer:
There were some very poor lines and the time 8'20" isn't that quick. :bigcry:

It's easier following whilst the front car clears the way. I won't be exchanging the CSL for one :whistle:

T$

Credit where credit is due mate :beer:
Agree about 8'20" not being that quick and it is a lot easier to follow then being followed as one can copy the lines of the car ahead ;)
Funny how the old Cecil pulled away into Schwedenkreuz :whistle: where you would have thought the Twin Turbo M-pretender would shine ;) :hahaha:

[SpineOnABap]

pointless comparison... different tyres, different drivers and so on. CSL looked more comfortable though.... but there's one clear winner there... GT3. No arguments there. :hahaha:

The driver of the 1M is a highly experienced race driver (including at the 'ring). You'll probably remember him from the old BM3W days :thumbs:

Here's another vid of him showing off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spGOm5gmKNQ&feature=related

:smokin:

[Porter]

The driver of the 1M is a highly experienced race driver (including at the 'ring). You'll probably remember him from the old BM3W days :thumbs:

:smokin:

Agreed - more action from the same driver:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5tIEcqOZI&feature=related

[glendog74]

The driver of the 1M is a highly experienced race driver (including at the 'ring). You'll probably remember him from the old BM3W days :thumbs:


He's a member here too:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/member.php?u=636

[alexk]

I like the way the GT 3 just sailed past. :supz:

996gt3

CSL is in theory faster..........:smokin:

fekkin 'ell matt you don't let gt3's duff you up do you?:hahaha::gayfight:

No Jim :gayfight: just the GT3 RS variants ;)

Ts ts ts :smt018
Shame on you, that's a 996 GT2 (check rear spoiler and air ducts for the engine)
That's the reason why it's flying past them ...

[s.mac]

Im out for a while Shim, no plans to buy anything until march next yr.
Really really busy at work, missing valuable time with the kids and mrs. And I have too many toys that need to go so need to put the next couple of months into getting the shit rid.

what he's really saying is, he's just had another addition to the family and the wife is giving him mega grief and he has to get his priority's out ;)
:hahaha:

[flatout]

Brilliant footage:thumbs: all i could hear was S/S from the CSL and nothing from the 1M:gayfight:. However if that's a fully stock 1M then this is a pretty impressive piece of effort to keep up with what seems a fully kitted out CSL mods wise.

Still is a turbo cheat and always will be :hahaha: ... NA All Da Way :supz:

[shimmy]

Brilliant footage:thumbs: all i could hear was S/S from the CSL and nothing from the 1M:gayfight:. However if that's a fully stock 1M then this is a pretty impressive piece of effort to keep up with what seems a fully kitted out CSL mods wise.

Still is a turbo cheat and always will be :hahaha: ... NA All Da Way :supz:


Fully kitted out however would require a driver......

[flatout]

Fully kitted out however would require a driver......

True, but seemed like they both knew their way round.....

[shimmy]

True, but seemed like they both knew their way round.....

Clockwise......:smokin:

8.15BTG, not exactly a boy scout is he ( def wouldn't have got his Ring badge)

[TommyR]

i dont rekon that csl was driven very well, and i think with the same driver there would be a clear gap between the csl and the 1m on the track

[Advevo]

You have found the movie.

:)

I have driven my nuts behind my back to follow that CSL.

CSL was modded. Driver had more then 1000 laps behinds it s belt. This CSL was for sure faster. But a 1M with the same pilot sport cups could keep up with an original CSL. There is not much in it. Believe me.

1M chassis/suspension/steering is awesome it s better then the CSL out of the box. But engine wise the CSL is unbeatable.

[Bounce]

You have found the movie.

:)

I have driven my nuts behind my back to follow that CSL.

CSL was modded. Driver had more then 1000 laps behinds it s belt. This CSL was for sure faster. But a 1M with the same pilot sport cups could keep up with an original CSL. There is not much in it. Believe me.

1M chassis/suspension/steering is awesome it s better then the CSL out of the box. But engine wise the CSL is unbeatable.Great vid mate.Good to hear the Csl has still got it being 8 years old and up against a new M model.:thumbs:

[Rutkowski]

You have found the movie.

:)

I have driven my nuts behind my back to follow that CSL.

CSL was modded. Driver had more then 1000 laps behinds it s belt. This CSL was for sure faster. But a 1M with the same pilot sport cups could keep up with an original CSL. There is not much in it. Believe me.

1M chassis/suspension/steering is awesome it s better then the CSL out of the box. But engine wise the CSL is unbeatable.


wow very good effort! '1000 laps' driver plus modded CSL vs stock 1M speaks for its self. 1M... good car! :hahaha: ;)

[glendog74]

wow very good effort! '1000 laps' driver plus modded CSL vs stock 1M speaks for its self. 1M... good car! :hahaha: ;)

The driver of the 1M has considerable driving experience including racing experience... :whistle:

1M is a good car, of that there is no doubt. You have no need to keep repeating this fact... :clown:

;)

[glendog74]

wow very good effort! '1000 laps' driver plus modded CSL vs stock 1M speaks for its self. 1M... good car! :hahaha: ;)

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL... ;)

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha:

[Rutkowski]

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL... ;)

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha:

you have just had some of your own medicine!! :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[Rutkowski]

live by the sword, die by the sword. ;) :hahaha:

[alexk]

You have found the movie.

:)

I have driven my nuts behind my back to follow that CSL.

CSL was modded. Driver had more then 1000 laps behinds it s belt. This CSL was for sure faster. But a 1M with the same pilot sport cups could keep up with an original CSL. There is not much in it. Believe me.

1M chassis/suspension/steering is awesome it s better then the CSL out of the box. But engine wise the CSL is unbeatable.

Well an M3 GTS (with proper tyres, brakes, suspension, cage etcetera) is 1sec faster than a stock CSL so can't see how an 1M with cups can beat the CSL @ the Ring.

Also read in the BMWblog that you don't believe the 7m50s that Von Saurma did with a stock CSL.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/08/02/video-bmw-1m-vs-csl-on-the-nurburgring/#more-64692
Shall we assume that all sportauto laptimes are incorrect or just the ones we don't like ?

It would be interesting to try to follow a fast CSL driver, i.e. T$

[Bounce]

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL... ;)

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::thumbs:

[northernjim]

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL... ;)

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha:

exactly what does 1000 laps mean anyway? just that he knows his way round...

its no indication of talent or willingness to 'push on' plus it could have been his first lap of the day after a year off.....


can't believe I rose to it either :hahaha::gayfight:

[SpineOnABap]

Well an M3 GTS (with proper tyres, brakes, suspension, cage etcetera) is 1sec faster than a stock CSL so can't see how an 1M with cups can beat the CSL @ the Ring.

Also read in the BMWblog that you don't believe the 7m50s that Von Saurma did with a stock CSL.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/08/02/video-bmw-1m-vs-csl-on-the-nurburgring/#more-64692
Shall we assume that all sportauto laptimes are incorrect or just the ones we don't like ?

It would be interesting to try to follow a fast CSL driver, i.e. T$

Hi Alex, for the un-educated - who is "T$"?

[Rutkowski]

Hi Alex, for the un-educated - who is "T$"?

a forum member, Elliot.

[Rutkowski]

M3 GTS on corsa tyres 7.48

M3 CSL on cups tyres 7.50

GTS on cups tyres ??

M3 CSL on corsa tyres ??

1M will never, ever achieve 7.50 on cups.

It does 8.22 iirc on road tyres.

[Rutkowski]

exactly what does 1000 laps mean anyway? just that he knows his way round...

its no indication of talent or willingness to 'push on' plus it could have been his first lap of the day after a year off.....


can't believe I rose to it either :hahaha::gayfight:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: CSL owner through and through!! :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

I done 8.10 btg on my approx 15th lap of the ring, that was with passenger and traffic too. And on far far too soft springs.

Pah.....race drivers, 1000 laps experience, my arse. :hahaha:


T/$...im coming for you:smokin:, theres only room for one thalidomide on here mate:hahaha:

[Bounce]

I done 8.10 btg on my approx 15th lap of the ring, that was with passenger and traffic too. And on far far too soft springs.

Pah.....race drivers, 1000 laps experience, my arse. :hahaha:


T/$...im coming for you:smokin:, theres only room for one thalidomide on here mate:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[alexk]

M3 GTS on corsa tyres 7.48

M3 CSL on cups tyres 7.50

GTS on cups tyres ??

M3 CSL on corsa tyres ??

1M will never, ever achieve 7.50 on cups.

It does 8.22 iirc on road tyres.

Hi mate,

This is the same discussion time after time.
Cups were designed for the CSL, it came with them from the factory.
The GTS has proper brakes, proper suspension, cage etc.
Shall we also put in the list "M3 CSL on brembo GT brakes, KW clubsport, halfcage" ?
I think you get my point.

I am not saying the 1M is a bad car, quite the contrary.
But it's not what the ///Marketing division is trying to promote that it is.
And in no way it can beat the CSL which is already 8 years old.
Also Andre seems to be a good driver and it's also his profession // driving cars.
But it seems that he is not that fast @ the Ring with the 1M.
The M3 CSL owner is slow (for whatever reason right... maybe he was on the phone with his Mrs, we don't know).
Throwing statements like ". I really doubt the 7.50 CSL ring time the 1M is pretty close already there no 25 sec difference. Mount some pilot sport cups on the 1M and there is not much in it." are a bit silly in such a uncontrolled comparison.

Love to all of you :smt055

[shane@mbtech]

:hahaha::hahaha:

That was on inferior cup+ too:thumbs:

[Advevo]

Lol@reactions

I never said it was a perfect lap. It s far from that. I had to back off for traffic lots of times and i even had to go off throttle because of an accident.

Taken this in consideration i did about 8 min flat with an off factory 1M. Which is still not fast enough for BTG to beat sport auto time.

But you need a clear track without much traffic to have maximum attack.

I like to see a 7.50 onboard video full lap or a 7.30 BTG Factory CSL lap. Show me please i like to see it.

[shane@mbtech]

Lol@reactions

I never said it was a perfect lap. It s far from that. I had to back off for traffic lots of times and i even had to go off throttle because of an accident.

Taken this in consideration i did about 8 min flat with an off factory 1M. Which is still not fast enough for BTG to beat sport auto time.

But you need a clear track without much traffic to have maximum attack.

I like to see a 7.50 onboard video full lap or a 7.30 BTG Factory CSL lap. Show me please i like to see it.

Don't bite too hard Michael ;)

[glendog74]

I done 8.10 btg on my approx 15th lap of the ring, that was with passenger and traffic too. And on far far too soft springs.

Pah.....race drivers, 1000 laps experience, my arse. :hahaha:


T/$...im coming for you:smokin:, theres only room for one thalidomide on here mate:hahaha:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

G A Y.

[glendog74]

That was on inferior cup+ too:thumbs:

G A Y E R still.

[glendog74]

Don't bite too hard Michael ;)

G A Y as fook! :gayfight:

[shimmy]

I done 8.10 btg on my approx 15th lap of the ring, that was with passenger and traffic too. And on far far too soft springs.

Pah.....race drivers, 1000 laps experience, my arse. :hahaha:


T/$...im coming for you:smokin:, theres only room for one thalidomide on here mate:hahaha:

I agree.............one thing I've learnt this year in my race team is that anybody who calls themselves a 'race driver' on a public forum is a knob:whistle:

[AlexGTT]

Why is everyone discounting the fact that there was horrendous momentum killing traffic and yellows in a critical place on that lap? Seems clear to me it would have been significantly faster without the hold ups.

I love the 1M. Wouldn't out the CSL for one but there's no doubt it's very capable right out the box. I've said many times if I could I would have one in place of my M3V8 for road use. It's brilliant.:thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

I agree.............one thing I've learnt this year in my race team is that anybody who calls themselves a 'race driver' on a public forum is a knob:whistle:

Are you a "race driver" Shim?

Ah, no! Of course, your a "train driver" aren't you.:smt055

[northernjim]

Are you a "race driver" Shim?

Ah, no! Of course, your a "train driver" aren't you.:smt055


:hahaha::smokin:

[AlexGTT]

Bedtime Jim.

Night night.

That's not an offer gayboy.:smt055:gayfight:

[glendog74]

Are you a "race driver" Shim?

Ah, no! Of course, your a "train driver" aren't you.:smt055

Bedtime Jim.

Night night.

That's not an offer gayboy.:smt055:gayfight:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[Streetwise Hercules]

Why is everyone discounting the fact that there was horrendous momentum killing traffic and yellows in a critical place on that lap? Seems clear to me it would have been significantly faster without the hold ups.

Because it's just so much fun to drag every thread into the shit with endless gay jokes and smilies.

[glendog74]

Because it's just so much fun to drag every thread into the shit with endless gay jokes and smilies.

Yay! Maybe you should become a full member seeing as you like it so much Ant? :thumbs: :hahaha:

[Streetwise Hercules]

You're funny. Same lines, different threads. Genius.

[glendog74]

You're funny. Same lines, different threads. Genius.

I know :smokin:

[AlexGTT]

You're funny. Same lines, different threads. Genius.

:smt024 ;)

[AlexGTT]

Lol@reactions

I never said it was a perfect lap. It s far from that. I had to back off for traffic lots of times and i even had to go off throttle because of an accident.

Taken this in consideration i did about 8 min flat with an off factory 1M. Which is still not fast enough for BTG to beat sport auto time.

But you need a clear track without much traffic to have maximum attack.

I like to see a 7.50 onboard video full lap or a 7.30 BTG Factory CSL lap. Show me please i like to see it.

How can you possibly think a busy lap like that is representative?

I think what you need to do is latch onto the back of a properly driven CSL on a clear lap. T$ for instance. I'd lay money on you not seeing which way he went.;)

[Advevo]

You are all properly right.

:smt039

[shimmy]

You are all properly right.

:smt039


I thank you!

I knew I was right.:supz:;):thumbs:

[Rutkowski]

Hi mate,

This is the same discussion time after time.
Cups were designed for the CSL, it came with them from the factory.
The GTS has proper brakes, proper suspension, cage etc.
Shall we also put in the list "M3 CSL on brembo GT brakes, KW clubsport, halfcage" ?
I think you get my point.

I am not saying the 1M is a bad car, quite the contrary.
But it's not what the ///Marketing division is trying to promote that it is.
And in no way it can beat the CSL which is already 8 years old.
Also Andre seems to be a good driver and it's also his profession // driving cars.
But it seems that he is not that fast @ the Ring with the 1M.
The M3 CSL owner is slow (for whatever reason right... maybe he was on the phone with his Mrs, we don't know).
Throwing statements like ". I really doubt the 7.50 CSL ring time the 1M is pretty close already there no 25 sec difference. Mount some pilot sport cups on the 1M and there is not much in it." are a bit silly in such a uncontrolled comparison.

Love to all of you :smt055

i'm with CSL crowd here, Alex. :thumbs:

After all, i drive E46 M3 which was once, a CSL with no CSL vin. ;)

All this 1M talk - it's the new car 'feeling' what i call. Hyper excited, not seeing the true picture.
1M is a brilliant car but not on par with CSL on Nordschleife. Never.

It did manage a better time on Bedford though, which is a technical track but the big torque and e92 M3 suspension played its part.

[glendog74]

I think what you need to do is latch onto the back of a properly driven CSL on a clear lap. T$ for instance. I'd lay money on you not seeing which way he went.;)

And he has to do it using just one arm! :hahaha:

[shimmy]

And he has to do it using just one arm! :hahaha:

Like a Lord Farrow?

[AlexGTT]

I tell you what, let him try keeping up with Lawsy first. If he can keep up with him he can move onto T$. If he can't keep it with the one armed crew he'd better call it a day.:hahaha:;)

[northernjim]

I tell you what, let him try keeping up with Lawsy first. If he can keep up with him he can move onto T$. If he can't keep it with the one armed crew he'd better call it a day.:hahaha:;)

:hahaha::hahaha::supz:

[Mike R]

The CSL had a few very strange lines, which you wouldn't expect of someone with that kind of experience. If it is the same car I am thinking of, then despite the laps experience, he can't drive a slippery stick up a dog's arse ;).

Admittedly it was a few years ago, but the guy I went to the Ring on 17th July with in the Z4M, previously had a normal E46 M3 with Intrax, APs and CSL wheels and was putting in conistant sub 8.20 BTGs - which the guy in the caged etc, white wrapped CSL refused to believe LOL.

[raCedeSignLtd]

Last time out at anglesey I had chance to drive the 1m, not on track but around the roads in the area of rhos neigr which I know very well.
The car is extremely quick in its standard out of the showroom form, this car had 1450 miles on the clock.
My track day buddy has bought one for his mrs.
The traction control light is on constantly with any spirited inputs on the loud pedal, but the chassis dynamics feel fantastic, almost feels like an e30 on roids.
Is it quicker than a csl, I don't know but as soon as I get my car off lawsy I'll drive em both and give an objective answer

[shimmy]

Last time out at anglesey I had chance to drive the 1m, not on track but around the roads in the area of rhos neigr which I know very well.
The car is extremely quick in its standard out of the showroom form, this car had 1450 miles on the clock.
My track day buddy has bought one for his mrs.
The traction control light is on constantly with any spirited inputs on the loud pedal, but the chassis dynamics feel fantastic, almost feels like an e30 on roids.
Is it quicker than a csl, I don't know but as soon as I get my car off lawsy I'll drive em both and give an objective answer

These two comparisons make interesting reading, both for the Ring and Hockenheim.

I'm surprised how well the CSL performs against the GT3 at Hockenheim, wnd it shows still that the 1M has a gap in performance to match it.

I would guess that it is still the mid to high speed corner differences that will separate the two dramatically at the Ring, partly helped by the OEM Tyres on the CSL.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/Data/b899d7a6.jpg

[merell900]

Lol@reactions

I never said it was a perfect lap. It s far from that. I had to back off for traffic lots of times and i even had to go off throttle because of an accident.

Taken this in consideration i did about 8 min flat with an off factory 1M. Which is still not fast enough for BTG to beat sport auto time.

But you need a clear track without much traffic to have maximum attack.

I like to see a 7.50 onboard video full lap or a 7.30 BTG Factory CSL lap. Show me please i like to see it.


I think the same, it ´s hard to believe the 7.50 lap :whistle:

[Streetwise Hercules]

I'm surprised how well the CSL performs against the GT3 at Hockenheim, wnd it shows still that the 1M has a gap in performance to match it.


Same driver on the same day or tests over a decade apart?

[alexk]

shimmy...

Sportauto doesn't know, cannot compare properly.
Ask the racing drivers here :thumbs:

[shimmy]

shimmy...

Sportauto doesn't know, cannot compare properly.
Ask the racing drivers here :thumbs:

I guessed that ;)

Their plan to test the cars on the same two tracks in same conditions, OEM condition with the same driver and no traffic is fatally flawed.

[glendog74]

shimmy...

Sportauto doesn't know, cannot compare properly.
Ask the racing drivers here :thumbs:

I guessed that ;)

Their plan to test the cars on the same two tracks in same conditions, OEM condition with the same driver and no traffic is fatally flawed.

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[alexk]

Someone is busy promoting the 1 M :whistle:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566503

I came into three conclusions.
1. Sportauto has no method of testing cars. They even do the mistake of testing cars made in different decades.
2. Horst von Saurma doesn't know how to drive sh1t. I will contact Sportauto to make him redundant.
3. We bought the wrong car, Sportauto and BMW Motorsport cheated on us with the fake 7.50 lap

[shane@mbtech]

You are all properly right.

:smt039

You are shit at racing cars. LOL. :gayfight:, find another vocation.


If I can do a 7.50 BTG in a CSL, which is achievable on my next visit, probably after a total of 25 laps max total laps driven, then a "real" racing driver should be 20 secs faster.

Just read your thread on 1 addicts, you should change the forum name to crackaddicts because thats why you come across as:hahaha:

:birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::bird man::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman:: birdman::birdman::birdman:

[AlexGTT]

You are shit at racing cars. LOL. :gayfight:, find another vocation.


If I can do a 7.50 BTG in a CSL, which is achievable on my next visit, probably after a total of 25 laps max total laps driven, then a "real" racing driver should be 20 secs faster.

Just read your thread on 1 addicts, you should change the forum name to crackaddicts because thats why you come across as:hahaha:

:birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::bird man::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman:: birdman::birdman::birdman:

Shane, I feel the need to mod your post. Not enough :birdman: :hahaha:

[Rutkowski]

You are shit at racing cars. LOL. :gayfight:, find another vocation.


If I can do a 7.50 BTG in a CSL, which is achievable on my next visit, probably after a total of 25 laps max total laps driven, then a "real" racing driver should be 20 secs faster.

Just read your thread on 1 addicts, you should change the forum name to crackaddicts because thats why you come across as:hahaha:

:birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::bird man::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman:: birdman::birdman::birdman:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[glendog74]

You are shit at racing cars. LOL. :gayfight:, find another vocation.


If I can do a 7.50 BTG in a CSL, which is achievable on my next visit, probably after a total of 25 laps max total laps driven, then a "real" racing driver should be 20 secs faster.

Just read your thread on 1 addicts, you should change the forum name to crackaddicts because thats why you come across as:hahaha:

:birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::bird man::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman:: birdman::birdman::birdman:

:smokin: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[Bounce]

Shane, I feel the need to mod your post. Not enough :birdman: :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[alexk]

You are shit at racing cars. LOL. :gayfight:, find another vocation.


If I can do a 7.50 BTG in a CSL, which is achievable on my next visit, probably after a total of 25 laps max total laps driven, then a "real" racing driver should be 20 secs faster.

Just read your thread on 1 addicts, you should change the forum name to crackaddicts because thats why you come across as:hahaha:

:birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::bird man::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman:: birdman::birdman::birdman:



:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:
:supz:
Lawsy spot on mate !

[DazBlackCSL]

You are shit at racing cars. LOL. :gayfight:, find another vocation.


If I can do a 7.50 BTG in a CSL, which is achievable on my next visit, probably after a total of 25 laps max total laps driven, then a "real" racing driver should be 20 secs faster.

Just read your thread on 1 addicts, you should change the forum name to crackaddicts because thats why you come across as:hahaha:

:birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::bird man::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman::birdman:: birdman::birdman::birdman:

:hahaha: only just caught up on this thread ... quality post shane ;)

Might get a chance to see what times the rangie can do later ( November with Alex is a must ) even for the beers, steak and banter and journey over

[AlexGTT]

:hahaha: only just caught up on this thread ... quality post shane ;)

Might get a chance to see what times the rangie can do later ( November with Alex is a must ) even for the beers, steak and banter and journey over

Get it in the diary Dazza.;):beer: