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Yanto
04-07-2011, 12:35 PM
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2988731.htm


http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2996291.htm


maybe its my eyes, but I dont see PDC on that second one ! :smt017

shane@mbtech
04-07-2011, 01:04 PM
Been looking at the possibility of a black one myself:whistle:

The Gorilla
04-07-2011, 01:27 PM
Hi,

That LHD one if its not been
fighting, looks like quite a good
buy.

Std LHD CSL quicker than a std RHD one.


Regards,

The Gorilla.

outnumbered
04-07-2011, 01:43 PM
LHD one has Magnesium wheels as well. Bargain !

toplad
04-07-2011, 01:43 PM
Hi,

That LHD one if its not been
fighting, looks like quite a good
buy.

Std LHD CSL quicker than a std RHD one.


Regards,

The Gorilla.

Really, hows that work?

DuncanR
04-07-2011, 01:50 PM
Really, hows that work?The Germans made it work ! All the RHD are just a compromise of the real deal ... the true design with regards weight distribution etc., (and a load of other stuff that Gorilla will be able to expand upon) will be for a LHD ..... I think ? :smt102

The Gorilla
04-07-2011, 01:50 PM
Hi,

Toplad- The E46 M3 was designed as
a LHD car hence the exhaust manifold is
bastardised for the RHD steering
linkage, about 3-4 BHP less.

Then the S54 L6 engine is inclined
to the right,and thus the weight distribution
with driver only, is much better in
a LHD car than a RHD car.

** DuncanR beat me to it.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

DuncanR
04-07-2011, 01:51 PM
Hi,

Toplad- The E46 M3 was designed as
a LHD car hence the exhaust manifold is
bastardised for the RHD steering
linkage, about 3-4 BHP less.

Then the S54 L6 engine is inclined
to the right,and thus the weight distribution
with driver only, is much better in
a LHD car than a RHD car.

Regards,

The Gorilla. Like I said ! :hahaha:

northernjim
04-07-2011, 04:58 PM
Hi,


Then the S54 L6 engine is inclined
to the right,and thus the weight distribution
with driver only, is much better in
a LHD car than a RHD car.

** DuncanR beat me to it.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

Will the rhd cars be better at going round rhd bends - ie clockwise tracks?

7.77
04-07-2011, 05:12 PM
french csl never make 360 hp on roller, just about 345/350 hp, and they are lhd.:smt102

mine was checked @ 361 hp, and the airbox sound isn't the same as french ones. don't know why, perhaps she has kept her english accent.

and mine is quicker than french ones, why ?? maybe cause i turn harder on right corner than left corner thanks to the "bad" weight distribution :hahaha:

i will keep my old csl !!:smt055

Bounce
04-07-2011, 05:50 PM
Like I said ! :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

DuncanR
04-07-2011, 05:56 PM
:hahaha::hahaha: Hang on ! ..when I said " Like I said" .. I wasnt being smug as in "Like I said" ... when I said ..."Like I said" ... I was actually referring to my comment that said "...and a load of other stuff that Gorilla will be able to expand upon...) and sure enough, along he came and duly expanded upon it ..... "like I said ... he would " ..... my head hurts ..:banghead:

Bounce
04-07-2011, 07:03 PM
Hang on ! ..when I said " Like I said" .. I wasnt being smug as in "Like I said" ... when I said ..."Like I said" ... I was actually referring to my comment that said "...and a load of other stuff that Gorilla will be able to expand upon...) and sure enough, along he came and duly expanded upon it ..... "like I said ... he would " ..... my head hurts ..:banghead:I know what you ment Dunc,it just sounded funny the other way,if you know what i mean.:hahaha:

glendog74
04-07-2011, 07:17 PM
Hang on ! ..when I said " Like I said" .. I wasnt being smug as in "Like I said" ... when I said ..."Like I said" ... I was actually referring to my comment that said "...and a load of other stuff that Gorilla will be able to expand upon...) and sure enough, along he came and duly expanded upon it ..... "like I said ... he would " ..... my head hurts ..:banghead:

Go back to sleep Gramps ;):hahaha:

E46CSL
04-07-2011, 07:21 PM
Now if these cars were in SG, I'd be interested....:whistle:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?p=94420#post94420

AlexGTT
04-07-2011, 09:58 PM
Hi,

Toplad- The E46 M3 was designed as
a LHD car hence the exhaust manifold is
bastardised for the RHD steering
linkage, about 3-4 BHP less.

Then the S54 L6 engine is inclined
to the right,and thus the weight distribution
with driver only, is much better in
a LHD car than a RHD car.

** DuncanR beat me to it.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

I can see the logic and good info but in the real World that's no difference at all. On a racecar maybe but as a road and occasional track car (well set up) that would count for 1% of naff all.

Duncan, stop being so sensible. I can't get used to it.;)

RolyGTIR
04-07-2011, 11:06 PM
Go back to sleep Gramps ;):hahaha:

:smt043:banana::smt040 :smt023

_Nathan_
04-07-2011, 11:08 PM
UK ones don't make 360bhp either ;)

toplad
04-07-2011, 11:18 PM
Hi,

Toplad- The E46 M3 was designed as
a LHD car hence the exhaust manifold is
bastardised for the RHD steering
linkage, about 3-4 BHP less.

Then the S54 L6 engine is inclined
to the right,and thus the weight distribution
with driver only, is much better in
a LHD car than a RHD car.

** DuncanR beat me to it.

Regards,

The Gorilla.:smokin:

Mmm, interesting

Id be surprised if it made any difference to a light weight like me:thumbs:

The Gorilla
04-07-2011, 11:24 PM
Hi,

AlexGTT-

''I can see the logic and good info but in the real World that's no difference at all. On a racecar maybe but as a road and occasional track car (well set up) that would count for 1% of naff all.''

You notice the difference more than would imagine
even on a road car.

Just the same as you notice the difference in
steering feel from the std E46 M3 v CSL,
yet the actual difference is nominal.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

alexk
05-07-2011, 07:37 AM
french csl never make 360 hp on roller, just about 345/350 hp, and they are lhd.:smt102

mine was checked @ 361 hp, and the airbox sound isn't the same as french ones. don't know why, perhaps she has kept her english accent.

and mine is quicker than french ones, why ?? maybe cause i turn harder on right corner than left corner thanks to the "bad" weight distribution :hahaha:

i will keep my old csl !!:smt055

Swiss CSL makes 370hp stock :whistle:
Ah, and it's LHD so it has the optimal weight distribution :thumbs:

shane@mbtech
05-07-2011, 09:01 AM
Swiss CSL makes 370hp stock :whistle:
Ah, and it's LHD so it has the optimal weight distribution :thumbs:

Wats your excuse for being so slow then Alex ;)

AlexGTT
05-07-2011, 02:14 PM
Wats your excuse for being so slow then Alex ;)

Your a bad man Shane.:hahaha:

Bet he's not as slow as me. I've got a RHD old shitter with maybe 350bhp at a stretch.:bigcry:

shane@mbtech
05-07-2011, 02:45 PM
Your a bad man Shane.:hahaha:

Bet he's not as slow as me. I've got a RHD old shitter with maybe 350bhp at a stretch.:bigcry:

He set himself up so well though Alex,

Im just good at chess:hahaha:

Im fucked then, all my extra ballast:smokin:

The Gorilla
05-07-2011, 02:57 PM
Hi,

AlexGTT-
''I've got a RHD old shitter with maybe 350bhp at a stretch.''

''350 bhp'' must be typo, you hit the number
5 key instead of 4 by mistake me thinks.

Its a CSL thing, nothing personal.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

shane@mbtech
05-07-2011, 03:32 PM
Hi,

AlexGTT-
''I've got a RHD old shitter with maybe 350bhp at a stretch.''

''350 bhp'' must be typo, you hit the number
5 key instead of 4 by mistake me thinks.

Its a CSL thing, nothing personal.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

340bhp makes me a better driver than I thought:hahaha:

The Gorilla
05-07-2011, 06:18 PM
Hi,

Lawsy-

''340bhp makes me a better driver than I thought''

Exactly, at least you get it !!


Regards,


The Gorilla.

AlexGTT
05-07-2011, 06:41 PM
Hi,

AlexGTT-
''I've got a RHD old shitter with maybe 350bhp at a stretch.''

''350 bhp'' must be typo, you hit the number
5 key instead of 4 by mistake me thinks.

Its a CSL thing, nothing personal.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

:hahaha: Indeed. I'm sticking with my etch a sketch dyno print out! It's gospel.:hahaha:

You'll have to get used to my sense of humour Gorilla.:thumbs: