pagid RS29 pads screeching...

[Ruebdo]

I recently uprated the pads to Pagid RS29 all around, standard discs but braided hoses and different fluid.

Within 5 mins of driving they screech so loud when stopping. How do i fix this, they are doing my head in???? :banghead:

cheers

[Yanto]

Goes with the turf mate - mine to this from time to time - London bus like.

[s.mac]

a bit more copper slip and go give them some stick ! the noise will come back, give them some more stick .... not really a road pad IMO

[Bounce]

Sell them to me cheap and get some PF ones.:hahaha::thumbs:

[Ruebdo]

so no quick fix then :bigcry:

[Yanto]

so no quick fix then :bigcry:

OEM and sell to Bounce :thumbs:

[Ruebdo]

bounce, i am so nearly there!!

[s.mac]

Bret he's right mate about the noise, track only pad or plenty of heavy braking :bigcry:
give them some stick and see how you go, have you any copper slip on? it makes a big difference

[3wheels3]

Have you bedded thtem in yet?

[Ruebdo]

yep, bedded in and recently done 2 track days on them. Copper slip on, they have literally just started. Trust me i have thrashed the car the last couple of nights thinking that will sort it out, but it is just consistant.

No probs for the first 3 mins of driving then it begins :banghead:

[Bounce]

Bret he's right mate about the noise, track only pad or plenty of heavy braking :bigcry:
give them some stick and see how you go, have you any copper slip on? it makes a big differenceAlways plenty of heavy braking when im in the car mate.:hahaha:

[alexk]

It's ridiculous the amount of noise they are making.

Never going back to RS29 again.

RS14 is the way forward.
I will build a statue for shimmy, you know in marble / Greek style :beer:

[shimmy]

Yes it's a bugger isn't it :smokin:

[AlexGTT]

I love my RS29's. Never give me grief.:smt055

[alexk]

I love my RS29's. Never give me grief.:smt055

I guess because you never drive outside a track :thumbs:

[s.mac]

looks like you may need a set of these

http://www.allearplugs.com/images/product/homepage/Macks-ear-seals-1-pair.jpg

[Bounce]

looks like you may need a set of these

http://www.allearplugs.com/images/product/homepage/Macks-ear-seals-1-pair.jpg:hahaha::hahaha:

[karbonkid]

No issue here either. Cera Tec lube on back of pad and away..

[3wheels3]

Are you sure you've not got a small animal stuck somewhere. Never had a problem.

[Ruebdo]

i found this under the bonnet but put it down to the current clutch problem i have

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTolNI6SpAgVI_YXKhsWZcm-Mx4lc-pgpCA3u9mTgraV0BpIdUP-A

[manos///3]

This was the reason my wife hates my car -and the seats off course- !
I had same issues until I changed to Alcon kit.

Alex did you have noise with Ap kit or with oem disks?

[M5 Powered]

I run the RS29's with Alcons and not a peep out of them. :thumbs:

[alexk]

The reason there is so much noise in the OEM brakes with RS29 is that the pad vibrates (between piston and pad + between the pad mounts).
In the APs or Alcons, the pad doesn't vibrate as much.

Mano > OEM brakes with RS29, too much noise.
AP brakes, I use RS14 (also RS14 on OEM brakes don't produce any noise).

[AlexGTT]

I guess because you never drive outside a track :thumbs:

Well, just about :smokin: but does plenty of road mileage between. Get the odd small noise now and then but the AP set up on mine seems to like them.

[Clubber]

Hey fellas,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I have the same dilemma. I am about to order RS29, SS Lines and SRF Fluid as a midway upgrade to my stock brakes. I can't justify a BBK kit yet.
Do RS29 pads squeal as bad as everyone says ? I will be doing a road trip to 'ring on june and I can't bare loud squealing for such a long journey. Some says it is quiet, some say it is ear bleeding loud. Looks like a hit or miss thing. I consider using Cera Tec lube to help things out but still undecided... Any input is appreciated.

Thanks

[alexk]

Just dont put rs29s on oem brakes.
You have been warned !

I tried the bmw anti squeal paste twice.
It was horrible !

RS14 is the way to go

[Graham]

I don't get any squeal at all on my rs29's in ap's

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I don't get any squeal at all on my rs29's in ap's

+1 :thumbs:

[alexk]

I don't know if everyone is reading here the posts :blalalala:

RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH

RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal

[Pip1968]

I don't know if everyone is reading here the posts :blalalala:

RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH

RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal

Ha ha, I was waiting for someone to pipe up. Or squeal like a pig as it were.

As for Clubber I would try my solution (despite having an AP set up) which is just to stick the RS29s in for track and then DS2500 for road. Incidentally I do not seem to get any noise from RS29s on my AP set up :whistle:.

Pip :hahaha:

[Neil M]

I have to admit that RS29's do tend to squeal particularly when they are cold on OEM Calipers, but as I only ever use my brakes to bring the car to a stop, I use gears to slow down, using the Gears = No Squeal.:thumbs:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Ha ha, I was waiting for someone to pipe up. Or squeal like a pig as it were.

As for Clubber I would try my solution (despite having an AP set up) which is just to stick the RS29s in for track and then DS2500 for road. Incidentally I do not seem to get any noise from RS29s on my AP set up :whistle:.

Pip :hahaha:

DS2500 disc killers :whistle:

[s.mac]

Neil, brakes are for stopping, please don't use your engine :bigcry:

[cslsuperfan]

I have to admit that RS29's do tend to squeal particularly when they are cold on OEM Calipers, but as I only ever use my brakes to bring the car to a stop, I use gears to slow down, using the Gears = No Squeal.:thumbs:

I am a track novice biffer neil but doesn't that method of driving make for "off the boil lap times"
and more importantly put additional strain on the drive train?
better to trash discs and pads scrubbing off speed swiftly?

Apologies Neil. I have just read this back and I sound well informed.

I am not!!:thumbs:

[Clubber]

Just dont put rs29s on oem brakes.
You have been warned !

I tried the bmw anti squeal paste twice.
It was horrible !

RS14 is the way to go

I don't know if everyone is reading here the posts :blalalala:

RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH

RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal

I hear you loud and clear. Are you using RS14's ? Pagid dealer told me they would be louder than RS29 for they had less ceramic in them or something. I understand that is not the case.

[alexk]

I run RS14s on my AP brakes and they hardly make any noise (the OEM brakes of the M5 squeal far more...).

I am aware of someone that fitted RS14s on the OEM CSL brakes and I don't remember having the problem the RS29s have.
The RS14 is a much softer pad (it wears out much faster) so I don't follow the logic of this pagid dealer.

Btw, Martin can supply you Pagids in good prices.
He is a top guy, great professional and a pleasure to deal with.

Martin > What do you think in terms of noise between RS29 and RS14 ?

[AlexGTT]

Using engine braking will not excessively wear anything provided you match revs nicely on the way down a box, which of course a CSL does nicely for you. On track it assists braking in big braking zones. Roughly changing down a manual box will wear clutch and transmission.

Really, the damage is negligible as long as you properly service cars/change oils.

[Graham]

I don't know if everyone is reading here the posts :blalalala:

RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH

RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal

Well it's easy then? Buy ap brakes! :thumbs:

[Neil M]

I'm just talking about normal, in traffic driving, I've never been near a track (apart from a Trip to Oulton about 30 years ago - I'm told).

There are no country lanes where I live, just lots of police which does tend to inhibit the performance characteristics of the car. :hahaha:

Gears for gradual braking is the way I was taught to drive many years ago and it's probably the only thing I continue to do.
As the SMG is an auto assisted manual using it to slow down is far more user friendly than a conventional manual IME. :whistle:

[shawn 968cs]

I have RS29's on my porsche, I found the brake fluid made a huge difference in regards to Squealing.
Had new disc and pads fitted last month used with Sunoco R600, and hardly any squeal (at all temps) but i didn't like the brake pedal feel so had it changed it to Brake engineering dot 4 fluid last week.
Now its embarisingly loud when driving normal.
I have never known them to be this loud.
Possibly will go back to r600 and put up with pedal feel.
Shawn

[Johnnywb]

Got RS29's fitted with the Alcon kit and no squeals at all.

Relieved as others had said they'd squeal, but not a peep.

[alexk]

Covered in many threads.
RS29s in standard brakes squeal like hell.
There is no remedy. I tried everything.

[Rick H]

Thorney's Alcons + AP600 + newish RS29s and no squeal. There was a bit when kit first put on car - but none now.

Some disc clatter at low speed.

Does anyone know how many Alcon CSL Cup kits were made out of interest?

[Neil M]

Thorney's Alcons + AP600 + newish RS29s and no squeal. There was a bit when kit first put on car - but none now.

Some disc clatter at low speed.

Does anyone know how many Alcon CSL Cup kits were made out of interest?

At least 2 :thumbs:

[sailorbaz]

Mine squeak a little with town driving but otherwise don't. Might pull the pads a plaster with some more anti-squeal compound, I might have been a bit light fingered with the stuff in the first place.

[sydown]

I have run RS-29's in standard calipers, bmw performance calipers and AP's and they all squeal at low speeds, but they are a track / race pad so thats what you have to live with! Supposedly the carbone lorraine track pads don't squeal as much so i'll be trying those next!!

[tommy]

CL RC5+ definitely don't squeal but they certainly melt on track!

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h101/swtmerce/IMG_20140426_154901.jpg (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/swtmerce/media/IMG_20140426_154901.jpg.html)

Don't bother with the RC6/6+ though as they definitely do squeal!

[Clubber]

Well, its now been almost 500miles with RS29's and squeel is almost non existent, maybe only coming to full stop for less than a second BUT I have a new problem. It seems the rear pads are rattling/shaking inside the OEM calipers. Has anyone experienced this ? Is there a solution ? It is not rotational but mostly vibration oriented (going over bumps, pot holes) etc.