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Deezer-D
29-05-2011, 12:40 PM
Got a set of AP rears off off eBay recently. They were red but seeing as I had my fronts done black, I got Godspeed to refurb them to match the fronts. Couple of gratuitous pics
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/deezer-d/Car/Picture13.png
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/deezer-d/Car/46d5880b.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/deezer-d/Car/243120_200732073304010_103337033043515_556673_1447 204_o.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/deezer-d/Car/7e39964d.jpg
Anyway, had them fitted on Friday but the garage had trouble fitting the anti-rattle clips. Can anyone give me a few pointers to fitting them please?
Also when I picked the car up the pedal was really soft (I reckon not bled properly) so the bled the brakes again and it feels much better but slightly softer then it did with front APs and OEM rears - does that sound normal?
Cheers
D
shimmy
29-05-2011, 01:30 PM
Pedal can be bled to rock hard if wanted (did you change the seals on the pistons)
Anti- rattle clips at rear go in so curve faces inwards and you place the tube in after and push down maybe a litte. Smetimes you have to wiggle and push the bolt in to get it to grip.
(tip at the fronts is never tighten up one of the two bolts until you have both located into the thread and caught in.
Deezer-D
29-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Cheers shimmy.
Seals weren't replaced on this set, he said they were fine as were the pistons. This calipers were in much better condition than the fronts. Seller said they had only been used for 1500 miles although Godspeed thought they'd been used for more. Pads still have loads of life left on them (unless this wasn't the original set) so seller may have been right.
Still have the option of having them bled again but garage said there was no air in the system. He did just use a old school plastic bottle and hose to bleed them.
Will maybe have a go at the clips myself.
s.mac
29-05-2011, 01:40 PM
rattle clips? would these stop the clunking I get when braking, it only clunks / clanks from the rear callipers ..
shimmy
29-05-2011, 01:58 PM
rattle clips? would these stop the clunking I get when braking, it only clunks / clanks from the rear callipers ..
Yep
I drove back from Spa with Duncan last year and bought some anti rattle clips for him, nearly drive me bonkers:whistle: (the lack of clips, not Duncan!)
glendog74
29-05-2011, 04:26 PM
rattle clips? would these stop the clunking I get when braking, it only clunks / clanks from the rear callipers ..
Nope - mine clunk all the time and i have anti-rattle clips...
I think it's the pads not quite fitting as snug as they should. I thought it was my rears at first but it is the fronts as the noise disappears when i lightly press the brake pedal. It still clunks if i lightly apply the handbrake to the rears...
Rather irritating! :bigcry:
shimmy
29-05-2011, 05:11 PM
It does stop the rattle (hence he name) but not always the clunk :thumbs:
mattCSLnut
29-05-2011, 05:39 PM
It does stop the rattle (hence the name) but not always the clunk :thumbs:
My BREMBO BBK neither rattle or clunk :whistle: ;) :hahaha:
shimmy
29-05-2011, 06:10 PM
My BREMBO BBK neither rattle or clunk :whistle: ;) :hahaha:
YOU do know Brembo and AP are the same firm!
mattCSLnut
29-05-2011, 06:51 PM
YOU do know Brembo and AP are the same firm!
Ahhh .... D'oh :banghead:
shimmy
29-05-2011, 07:15 PM
Ahhh .... D'oh :banghead:
AP range for serious race cars and Brembo range for wanna-be motorway racers, range rovers, and middle aged porkers. ;)
mattCSLnut
29-05-2011, 07:39 PM
AP range for serious race cars and Brembo range for wanna-be motorway racers, range rovers, and middle aged porkers. ;)
I thought APs were for "Hobby" drivers :whistle: ;)
Rutkowski
29-05-2011, 08:44 PM
I thought APs were for "Hobby" drivers :whistle: ;)
APs for hobby drivers, Brembo for show only... because real men don't use brakes.
i own Brembo bbk :thumbs:
Rutkowski
29-05-2011, 08:45 PM
YOU do know Brembo and AP are the same firm!
APs have been bought by Brembo.... :hahaha:
mattCSLnut
29-05-2011, 08:50 PM
APs have been bought by Brembo.... :hahaha:
Out of pity ? or to corner the market ? :whistle: ;) :hahaha:
Rutkowski
29-05-2011, 08:51 PM
Out of pity ? or to corner the market ? :whistle: ;) :hahaha:
LMFAO!! :hahaha:
shimmy
29-05-2011, 09:23 PM
Intrax were going to bu Bilstein but the banks told them they wouldn't incest in a Market for Vauxhall drivers :smokin:
mattCSLnut
29-05-2011, 09:29 PM
Intrax were going to buy Bilstein but the banks told them they wouldn't invest in a Market for Vauxhall drivers :smokin:
Now you're just making stuff up mate ;) :hahaha:
Rutkowski
29-05-2011, 09:33 PM
Intrax were going to bu Bilstein but the banks told them they wouldn't be able to afford Bilstein
:thumbs::hahaha:
Deezer-D
30-05-2011, 02:17 PM
I'll run them without clips until the next time I have the wheels off and try fitting them then.
Deezer-D
30-05-2011, 09:07 PM
Changed my mind! The clips are going in first chance I get! That noise would drive you mental!
DuncanR
31-05-2011, 02:36 PM
My BREMBO BBK neither rattle or clunk , or work ! :whistle: ;) :hahaha: :hahaha:
Rutkowski
31-05-2011, 03:24 PM
:hahaha:
i see what you did there... mine stopped working properly too... well, ever since APs joined Brembo that is... :hahaha:
mattCSLnut
31-05-2011, 05:44 PM
:hahaha:
Very cleaver Numb Nuts :birdman: ;)
If that were true I'd put it down to some inferior AP Racing components lurking inside my BREMBO BBK :blalalala:
Deezer-D
06-06-2011, 02:53 PM
Managed to get them fitted on Saturday, think they are in right. Will try to get a pic so someone can confirm
Deezer-D
11-06-2011, 12:28 PM
Couple of pics, are they in right?
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/deezer-d/Car/c409bce4.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e333/deezer-d/Car/5bbfc145.jpg
shimmy
11-06-2011, 01:15 PM
Yep. Ok
Deezer-D
11-06-2011, 01:16 PM
Yep. Ok
Cheers Shimmy
madcsl
24-06-2011, 01:34 PM
Had the same problem - a clunk from the rear pads - here is the helpful response from AP
The mechanic is correct it is the clearance of pad to caliper (approx 1mm on length) that can cause pad knock as the car rolls forward or is reversed and the pad gets rocked back and forth producing a metallic click. It causes no harm but can be intrusive but if this clearance wasn’t there then the pads would expand and jam in the caliper! The anti rattle clip is there to arrest the rotational momentum of the pad and is normally enough to eliminate the clicking sound on take off, although it can’t overcome the loads applied during reversing so it can click then and once more as the car moves off. If yours are clicking constantly but the A/R clip is fitted correctly i.e. in contact with the top of the pad steel backing plate, then there are 2 other possibilities: -
1)
The pads are to short in length (Nom = 113.47mm / 5.20”) producing more clearance than required. But if the pads are as supplied with the brake kit it’s highly unlikely!
2)
The pads or discs are worn producing a wear lip that is causing the pad drag in free condition.
Solution: - Clean off any wear lip on pad or disc with a file, but don’t touch the braking faces!
If that’s not a cure then we can provide self-adhesive rubberised shims to attach to the calipers lower wear plates (2off only per caliper). To fit these shims dampers, the Pads need to come out and the calipers wear plates wiped clean of dust and grease.
It’s Very unusual to have to do this on the M3, but it will affect a cure. I’ll send the Agent in Sydney a set for you to try in their next shipment arriving with them early next week marked for your attention.
Part # CP5119-113
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