V8m3 to CSL

[ahtim]

Hi used to drive the new V8 m3, but then changed last month to CSL, absolutely great car and no regret at all!!!

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[3wheels3]

Be interested to hear your thoughts on comparison. Do occasionally think of switch the other way but scared I wouldn't get back to csl where I know history & condition aswell etc.

[sailorbaz]

Very nice mate, where you from? That's a smart place to put the CSL to sleep in the evening. Beats my shed, for sure.

[indy]

not sure if its the picture, but it looks like the CSL badge is too high.
i think the bottom of the CSL lettering should be inline with the bottom of the M3 badge :)

car looks great! id also like to know where that is, nice parking!!!

[sailorbaz]

Now you mention it mate, look at the exhaust too... down quite a bit further on the Offside that the nearside... what would Lawsy say? ;-)

[AlexGTT]

Hi Ahtim, good move. Glad your enjoying the CSL.:thumbs:

[ahtim]

hi guys, btw i am from Hong Kong! nice to meet you guys! but i stayed in uk for 10years in the past.

both cars are good, but it serve different purpose, the new m3 is a much easier to drive(just like playing gt5), faster on straight luxury cruiser.
the csl is a more more hardcore car, the handling, braking, steering and response are in 2 different world.

the sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsnuZTuPr-c
My new m3 has full akrapovic exhaust on it, and during low rpm it is louder than csl, but when you compare the high rev, the csl scream louder.

acceleration, i think the first 3 gear are very similar, but when it comes to top end, the new m3 are much quicker.

Gearbox, i think the dct is like playing gt5, it is way too easy and friendly, it is not raw like the csl, this is purely my opinion

really i am not regret at all, since my car is only for weekend, i have a 530 for work, and i think it serve the purpose right, plus a save quite a bit of money.

[indy]

hi guys, btw i am from Hong Kong!
nice! :beer:
which part of HK!!! :thumbs:
there are some real nice cars out there :drool: :smt055

[shane@mbtech]

I have gone opposite way. Both great cars, very similar but at the same time very different.

Csl feels "old school" compared to the e92.

Csl out the box is far more motorsport than the e92 is.

E92 with exhaust is a different car, the whole experience changes completely
Whereas IMO the Csl needs nothing changing to be great

The dct is a little detached compared to the smg, but fundamentally in performance terms is better. Smg feels cumbersome IMO at slow speeds. Smg is perfect at high revs, but lacks the finesse lower down. The dct is great througout the range giving kick in back in s6 at warp speed that smg does.




We shall see at croft how the e92 fares on track against the Csl boys.

Both cars have pro and cons, right now for me the e92 has more pros than the Csl does, I did say it was an itch I wanted to scratch and I'm currently scratching like a flea ridden mongrel :hahaha:

I keep looking at Csl thinking I will return, someday I will, that's for certain.

Biggest plus for me is cruise control:gayfight:

Going to Germany is far easier cruising along with legs stretched out, the trip in the pork turbo was great because of this. :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

I have gone opposite way. Both great cars, very similar but at the same time very different.

I keep looking at Csl thinking I will return, someday I will, that's for certain.

Biggest plus for me is cruise control:gayfight:



I bet having the luxury of A/C is nice as well :whistle: ;) :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

I bet having the luxury of A/C is nice as well :whistle: ;) :hahaha:

Thats one thing that never bothered me in the slightest matt, mad it may seem, but I never thought about it in all my days. If it was a daily driver then yes, but for a balls out weekend/track car it was great. Besides cold winter months heater was on, hot summer months windows where down taking in the aural delights.

[mattCSLnut]

Thats one thing that never bothered me in the slightest matt, mad it may seem, but I never thought about it in all my days. If it was a daily driver then yes, but for a balls out weekend/track car it was great. Besides cold winter months heater was on, hot summer months windows where down taking in the aural delights.

That's one way of looking at it Shane ;) :hahaha: though I agree about the "windows down = aural delights " :thumbs:
I hope you don't start ripping the E92's A/C system out in an attempt to shaving off weight ;) :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Thats one thing that never bothered me in the slightest matt, mad it may seem, but I never thought about it in all my days. If it was a daily driver then yes, but for a balls out weekend/track car it was great. Besides cold winter months heater was on, hot summer months windows where down taking in the aural delights.


Fuck that, it was scorching here today at Spa.....no a/c would be a PITA
:thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

Fuck that, it was scorching here today at Spa.....no a/c would be a sweaty PIT
:thumbs:

EFA

Did you manage to get on Shim?

Judging by lack of shouting, you didnt get a gd time?

[shimmy]

EFA

Did you manage to get on Shim?

Judging by lack of shouting, you didnt get a gd time?



HAAAAAAA



LOTS OF TRAFFIC

But squeezed a 2m 52.6:whistle:

SD Card filled up for last session :banghead:



Overall I think sub 2m 52 is possible for me but in think sub 2m 51 would be very hard, need a perfect Lao and bigger balls :whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

HAAAAAAA



LOTS OF TRAFFIC

But squeezed a 2m 52.6:whistle:

SD Card filled up for last session :banghead:



Overall I think sub 2m 52 is possible for me but in think sub 2m 51 would be very hard, need a perfect Lao and bigger balls :whistle:

Im getting the snip soon, you can borrow mine then, they will be huge for a week or so:hahaha:

Good time mate. Well done:beer:

[shimmy]

Im getting the snip soon, you can borrow mine then, they will be huge for a week or so:hahaha:

Good time mate. Well done:beer:

Don't worry, it is painless.......but the pain of not being a MAN. Anymore never leaves you.....ask Rob :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Fekkin bummers...

[ahtim]

From my point of view, as my car is purely weekend/night drive car so i dont drive it at all during weekday or if it rains. For me i own the new m3 since 2008, and i truly think if it is for daily drive then you should choose the new m3, but for weekend/fast driving, you should pick the CSL.
Much more hardcore and raw



BTW guys, as my car is all stock, i was thinking of changing the exhaust to a custom build header back straight pipe. what do you guys think?


I have gone opposite way. Both great cars, very similar but at the same time very different.

Csl feels "old school" compared to the e92.

Csl out the box is far more motorsport than the e92 is.

E92 with exhaust is a different car, the whole experience changes completely
Whereas IMO the Csl needs nothing changing to be great

The dct is a little detached compared to the smg, but fundamentally in performance terms is better. Smg feels cumbersome IMO at slow speeds. Smg is perfect at high revs, but lacks the finesse lower down. The dct is great througout the range giving kick in back in s6 at warp speed that smg does.




We shall see at croft how the e92 fares on track against the Csl boys.

Both cars have pro and cons, right now for me the e92 has more pros than the Csl does, I did say it was an itch I wanted to scratch and I'm currently scratching like a flea ridden mongrel :hahaha:

I keep looking at Csl thinking I will return, someday I will, that's for certain.

Biggest plus for me is cruise control:gayfight:

Going to Germany is far easier cruising along with legs stretched out, the trip in the pork turbo was great because of this. :smokin:

[shane@mbtech]

From my point of view, as my car is purely weekend/night drive car so i dont drive it at all during weekday or if it rains. For me i own the new m3 since 2008, and i truly think if it is for daily drive then you should choose the new m3, but for weekend/fast driving, you should pick the CSL.
Much more hardcore and raw



BTW guys, as my car is all stock, i was thinking of changing the exhaust to a custom build header back straight pipe. what do you guys think?

Straight pipe will be seriously loud,

I modded my exhaust, and removed the secondary cats, then fitted supersprint back boxes. This for me is perfect, anything more would IMO be too intrusive. I feel its the perfect balance.
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[mattCSLnut]

Nice pipes Shane :smokin:

[glendog74]

Nice pipes Shane :smokin:

Looks like one pair sits lower than the other though, don't you think? :whistle: :hahaha:

[mattCSLnut]

Looks like one pair sits lower than the other though, don't you think? :whistle: :hahaha:

Yeah ... now that you mention it ... :whistle: :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

Looks like one pair sits lower than the other though, don't you think? :whistle: :hahaha:

Yeah ... now that you mention it ... :whistle: :hahaha:

When they are as wonky as matts, I'll start to worry;)

[ahtim]

you should get AKRA if you have the V8 m3, it is the best exhaust you can get. totally different car after installed, the torque and the character of the engine are very different.