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Ruebdo
15-04-2011, 04:52 PM
I need advice please.
Spent a few hours at Brands Hatch yesterday for the first time in the CSL. I have tracked many cars and the thing is fast, and haddles perfect. Very impressed except,
My discs are knackered, both fronts and rears.
I mights put AP's on, but if not and i stay standard for the time being how much should i be paying?? its not going to a main dealer.
If i just change the pads and fluid will that make a difference??
Silverstone in 3 weeks so i need to get a move in!!!
Cheers

Bounce
15-04-2011, 05:08 PM
I got standard discs from bmw Cheltenham,they seem to give as good a price as any body,have a look on the Simpson motorsport site for uprated pads,performace friction ones are pretty good,or even better are the Pagits but cost a lot more and yes you could do with uprating the brake fluid,any good fluid will do with a high boiling point,ive got Motul 660,others use Ate blue or Ap and Castrol do one.Braided hoses also help and are not a bad price.;)

trackm3
15-04-2011, 07:35 PM
Ive just supplied a set of Pagids for a CSL, Fronts in 29 and rears in 14 good combination and not to bad a price.

monkeycsl
15-04-2011, 09:43 PM
bmwminiparts just supplied mine for just over five hundred for front and rears i have uprated fluid and braided lines.Pad choice cos i get good discount is ebc yellowstuff,been using them on my r32 and very impressed for their price.:thumbs:

glendog74
15-04-2011, 11:01 PM
Sounds like the ideal time to swap to APs if you ask me... :thumbs:

shane@mbtech
15-04-2011, 11:47 PM
bmwminiparts just supplied mine for just over five hundred for front and rears i have uprated fluid and braided lines.Pad choice cos i get good discount is ebc yellowstuff,been using them on my r32 and very impressed for their price.:thumbs:

EBC pads are the shittest pads in the world, after 3 hard 90mph stops the pedal just goes hard with no effect. Shit for road, absolutely useless for track too.

But glad you like them :thumbs:

3wheels3
15-04-2011, 11:51 PM
Sounds like the ideal time to swap to APs if you ask me... :thumbs:

+1 imo

glendog74
15-04-2011, 11:58 PM
EBC pads are the shittest pads in the world, after 3 hard 90mph stops the pedal just goes hard with no effect. Shit for road, absolutely useless for track too.

But glad you like them :thumbs:

My CSL had EBC yellow pads fitted when i bought it. They juddered all the way round the Ring - hardly a place known to be particularly hard on brakes... I prefer the term 'Wank'... :hahaha:

Ruebdo
16-04-2011, 11:45 AM
cheers guys.
whilst i am so tempted to go AP's i reckon i will go standard and uprate the pads, lines and fluid.
One of the reasons for not putting on AP's is that as the car has only done 19k miles (and i paid the price for that), i have a hunch it will devalue it cos people will think its done 19k track miles. could be wrong!!!

glendog74
16-04-2011, 11:56 AM
If you plan to track the CSL more than a couple of times a year you will regret not fitting bigger brakes - to the front axle at least...

Unless you intend to 'pootle' around tracks you will quickly find you are pushing the standard brakes beyond their limits on a track day, on short UK tracks at any rate.

IMHO - and experience! :whistle:

Bounce
16-04-2011, 06:22 PM
If you plan to track the CSL more than a couple of times a year you will regret not fitting bigger brakes - to the front axle at least...

Unless you intend to 'pootle' around tracks you will quickly find you are pushing the standard brakes beyond their limits on a track day, on short UK tracks at any rate.

IMHO - and experience! :whistle:Im finding this now,after [pootling] around for the first couple of trackdays my standard brakes are now not good enough,at Snett a few weeks ago i was having trouble stopping after a couple of laps:bigcry:So i am going BBK as my next mod,even if its just on the front to start with.:smokin::thumbs:

shane@mbtech
16-04-2011, 06:38 PM
Im finding this now,after [pootling] around for the first couple of trackdays my standard brakes are now not good enough,at Snett a few weeks ago i was having trouble stopping after a couple of laps:bigcry:So i am going BBK as my next mod,even if its just on the front to start with.:smokin::thumbs:

Front is enough Brett then throw some uprated pads in the rear for good measure

shane@mbtech
16-04-2011, 06:39 PM
cheers guys.
whilst i am so tempted to go AP's i reckon i will go standard and uprate the pads, lines and fluid.
One of the reasons for not putting on AP's is that as the car has only done 19k miles (and i paid the price for that), i have a hunch it will devalue it cos people will think its done 19k track miles. could be wrong!!!

Take them off and back to standard come resale time

monkeycsl
16-04-2011, 08:20 PM
I have done alot of miles and high speed stops with the r32 which is a fairly heavy car and the yellowstuff pads have been fine no judder no loss of brakes at all each to their own i guess,I also used them on my 306 track car with no problems.:blalalala:

Ruebdo
16-04-2011, 10:06 PM
agreed, i think i have to upgrade and if i sell i will take them off. Silverstone in 3 weeks, Spa in 8 :drool:
Where is the best place to have them done. I will start with the front

glendog74
16-04-2011, 11:25 PM
Simpson Motorsport :thumbs:

Ruebdo
17-04-2011, 10:45 PM
I know Simpsons are the kiddies, but is there anyone nearer to Surrey. It may even be a quick fix to standard as i have no time off over the next few weeks

Pip1968
18-04-2011, 09:59 PM
Quick hijack here as nobody answered my last post on this. Yes, it is probably a stupid question but I have APs all round but the braided hoses are only on the front calipers. Is this correct or has somebody taken a shortcut??

Pip

Deezer-D
18-04-2011, 11:11 PM
Rear kit uses the original hoses. You can buy a set of rear Goodridge braided hoses and replace the OEM ones. AP don't supply braided rear hoses just the banjos

Yanto
18-04-2011, 11:18 PM
I would go BBk / APs now...

I have std discs and RS29's all round..fine for me to date , as I've been a pootler over the last year :gayfight:

(though getting there slowly...)

STEVE was having trouble with them after a couple of laps at Snett though...:bigcry:

:smt067:smt067:smt067:smt067

I need to change the pads and the carpet in the footwell :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

Pip1968
18-04-2011, 11:25 PM
Rear kit uses the original hoses. You can buy a set of rear Goodridge braided hoses and replace the OEM ones. AP don't supply braided rear hoses just the banjos

Thank you very much Deezer-D. I can sleep a little better now. Sorry for the hijack.

Pip

Deezer-D
18-04-2011, 11:35 PM
Thank you very much Deezer-D. I can sleep a little better now. Sorry for the hijack.

Pip

No worries mate. Just bought a used set of rears and rang AP to check if they supplied braided hoses and they confirmed they don't