wheel spacer fitment issues!!!

[cslsuperfan]

any advice on the following

bought some hubcentric spacers (FK German) from performance alloys NIre.
i specifically bought the type that bolt to the hub using bolts supplied, which the website assured me would permit the use of oem wheel nuts.
Guess what??
oem nuts are at least 10mm too long.

Help!:bigcry:

[shane@mbtech]

any advice on the following

bought some hubcentric spacers (FK German) from performance alloys NIre.
i specifically bought the type that bolt to the hub using bolts supplied, which the website assured me would permit the use of oem wheel nuts.
Guess what??
oem nuts are at least 10mm too long.

Help!:bigcry:


How can oem bolts be too long when a spacer is fitted?

[cslsuperfan]

the threaded portion of the wheel nut passes through the spacer and is stopped by the disc carrier.the original female threads on the hub are filled by the spacer securing bolts.

[DuncanR]

As an engineer I would never view that setup as a true spacer, and I wouldn't use them, I would only feel secure with a setup where the bolts pass thro both wheel and spacer and into the hub. I would look upon what you have as an adapter, not a spacer, as you are bolting the wheels onto what you are calling a spacer, and not into the hub. Out of interest what thickness spacer as there is a minimum thread depth for all bolts, so yours must be minimun 15mm I'm guessing ? I'm bored sitting on a train ! Lawsy ? What's the order of play for setting launch control again ?

[Bounce]

disco s come with launch control,:thumbs:

[phoenixcsl]

any advice on the following

bought some hubcentric spacers (FK German) from performance alloys NIre.
i specifically bought the type that bolt to the hub using bolts supplied, which the website assured me would permit the use of oem wheel nuts.
Guess what??
oem nuts are at least 10mm too long.

Help!:bigcry:

I used FK spacers for a bit on my old E46 M3, they came with extended bolts which bolted directly through the spacer and into the hub, are you sure you have the right ones? I got my FK's from CA Automotive many moons ago.

I'm not a fan of the ones where you have to bolt the spacer to the hub, then the wheel bolts to the spacer seperately, i'm sure they are more prone to breaking, I had Eibach ones like that for my Focus RS, needless to say I took them off after 2 days.

[Bounce]

I wouldn't use them either mate,if the spacer breaks down your wheel will come off,get the ones where the bolt passes through the spacer into the hub.H&R are a good make.;)

[glendog74]

disco s come with launch control,:thumbs:

I think you mean 'Lunch' control? :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

The type you have is the same type the VW gimps use to fit porsche wheels on, a definite no no for me.

They are not spacers, but adapters. Completely different.

As Dunc says, dont use them, far to much stress on the spacer IMO.

Get some proper ones.

[shane@mbtech]

As an engineer I would never view that setup as a true spacer, and I wouldn't use them, I would only feel secure with a setup where the bolts pass thro both wheel and spacer and into the hub. I would look upon what you have as an adapter, not a spacer, as you are bolting the wheels onto what you are calling a spacer, and not into the hub. Out of interest what thickness spacer as there is a minimum thread depth for all bolts, so yours must be minimun 15mm I'm guessing ? I'm bored sitting on a train ! Lawsy ? What's the order of play for setting launch control again ?


Traction off, set smg to 6, hold lever in upshift position, rev until your hearts content. Release gearshift, bang off you go.

Imagine the knock on effect, cars might push out the front of the train:hahaha:

If you are trying it again, please keep ya foot on the brake, just in case:smokin:

[DuncanR]

Traction off, set smg to 6, hold lever in upshift position, rev until your hearts content. Release gearshift, bang off you go.

Imagine the knock on effect, cars might push out the front of the train:hahaha:

If you are trying it again, please keep ya foot on the brake, just in case:smokin: Got it !!! sitting in Comfy Corner in Adenau..the fookin Burrells havent got the broadband fitted yet FFS:banghead:.... SO HAVING A QUIET ONE WITH jURG ON HIS NITE OFF !! FOOK CAPS :beer:

[glendog74]

Got it !!! sitting in Comfy Corner in Adenau..the fookin Burrells havent got the broadband fitted yet FFS:banghead:.... SO HAVING A QUIET ONE WITH jURG ON HIS NITE OFF !! FOOK CAPS :beer:

Sweet work mate - a few TF laps in the Disco tomorrow? :thumbs:

[shimmy]

I'm in Berlin now after waving at DuncanR as I flew Koln.

Being chatted up by a Deutsch bird (she must be a hooker) but have to say this bar across from the hotel is great.

Have a good one Dunc:thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

I'm in Berlin now after waving at DuncanR as I flew Koln.

Being chatted up by a Deutsch bird (she must be a hooker) but have to say this bar across from the hotel is great.

Have a good one Dunc:thumbs:

Be sure it's not a ladyboy Shim.:bigcry:;)

[shimmy]

Be sure it's not a ladyboy Shim.:bigcry:;)

Definitely not.........def a hooker.......goodnight!

[Bounce]

Be sure it's not a ladyboy Shim.:bigcry:;)
:hahaha::hahaha:

[northernjim]

Be sure it's not a ladyboy Shim.:bigcry:;)

do you think shim is the kind of guy to do the crocodile dundee squeeze test to check :smokin::beer:

[glendog74]

do you think shim is the kind of guy to do the crocodile dundee squeeze test to check :smokin::beer:
If he's a 'real man' he'll simply do the deed anyway and worry about all that sort of thing afterwards :hahaha: :hahaha: :bigcry:

[DuncanR]

do you think shim is the kind of guy to do the crocodile dundee squeeze test to check :smokin::beer: He would do the squeeze test anyway , even if it was blatantly obvious she was a he !!

[_Nathan_]

Reminds me of Alan Partridge.

..and he flipped her over and he fu.....and fu....and funnily enough it landed on all four wheels and they drove away.

[DuncanR]

When all said and done ...all a spacer is is a big thick ......Shim !!!:hahaha::hahaha:




Back in comfy now @ 1400 hrs local, weather foggy, wet , dull.

Daz tyres are finally on board :thumbs: see new thread !:banghead:

[bigfoot]

I tried various spacer dimensions and types to get the correct caliper to wheel clearance while fitting Matt’s CSL brake solutions.

I had the exact same problem fitting AC Schnitzer race type III wheels using Eibach system 7 20mm spacers and the recommended OE wheel bolts.

I only noticed that the wheel bolts where too long because of the gouge marks left in the disc/hub face after removing the wheel.

The solution for me was to purchase the bolt through type which I had milled down to 17mm.

Cslsuperfan. I stand to be corrected but OE wheel bolts should be 26mm long so it does seem strange that your OE bolts are at least 10mm too long.

You could check Demon Tweeks for a few alternatives. The shortest wheel bolt they stock is 22mm: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Wheels_Tyres/Wheel_Tyre_Accessories/Grayston_Wheel_Bolt/1789/5277 (http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Wheels_Tyres/Wheel_Tyre_Accessories/Grayston_Wheel_Bolt/1789/5277)

OE threads are M12 x 1.5. Fixed 60 degree with 17mm head.

If you don’t fancy cutting the wheel bolts down you could convert to wheel studs and nuts: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Wheels_Tyres/Wheel_Tyre_Accessories/Grayston_Conversion_Stud/1789/5261 (http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Wheels_Tyres/Wheel_Tyre_Accessories/Grayston_Conversion_Stud/1789/5261)

I would be interested to hear how you resolve your dilemma.

Good luck.:smt023

[cslsuperfan]

bigfoot,
managed to resolve the spacer issue. After taking the advice of forum members i decided to go for through bolts into the original blind holes in the hubs.
Sourced 40mm wheel bolts from Demon Tweeks and drilled out the 11.50 mm threads to 12mm and hey presto!! bolts now pass through the spacers.
haven't test drove the car but i've been told 15mm spacers are OK on csl alloys with oem cups(265/30/19)
the car looks even more aggressive than before.
will let you know how things go after i've driven some powys b roads!!

:thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

bigfoot,
managed to resolve the spacer issue. After taking the advice of forum members i decided to go for through bolts into the original blind holes in the hubs.
Sourced 40mm wheel bolts from Demon Tweeks and drilled out the 11.50 mm threads to 12mm and hey presto!! bolts now pass through the spacers.
haven't test drove the car but i've been told 15mm spacers are OK on csl alloys with oem cups(265/30/19)
the car looks even more aggressive than before.
will let you know how things go after i've driven some powys b roads!!

:thumbs:

Good choice. Adapter plates are not a good idea at all, especially with a car of this weight that generates such lateral g.

[bigfoot]

bigfoot,
managed to resolve the spacer issue. After taking the advice of forum members i decided to go for through bolts into the original blind holes in the hubs.
Sourced 40mm wheel bolts from Demon Tweeks and drilled out the 11.50 mm threads to 12mm and hey presto!! bolts now pass through the spacers.
haven't test drove the car but i've been told 15mm spacers are OK on csl alloys with oem cups(265/30/19)
the car looks even more aggressive than before.
will let you know how things go after i've driven some powys b roads!!

:thumbs:

Glad too hear that my ramblings helped.

Only thing is we've got to have photos now to show off the fruits of your labours.