BBS e88

[glendog74]

I fitted my BBS E88 track wheels today to see if there were any issues with widths or arch/suspension clearances, etc.

I decided last year that i would change from wheel bolts to wheel studs/nuts for convenience so i fitted these first. It was a straight forward job and involved cleaning the hub threads prior to applying a drop of Loctite 262 high strength threadlocker and torque tightening the studs to 16 ft lbs.

The 10.5 x 18J rears went on without spacers and fitted nicely with a little clearance from the wheel arch and without any issues with suspension.

The 9.5 x 18J fronts had to have 12mm spacers fitted to fit ok and even so the inner edge of the rim is at most 5mm away from my KW Clubsport spring/strut upright... The top outer edge of the tyre looks like it would come into contact with the arch but this is partly down to only having around -2.2 degrees camber set on the fronts vice the -3.2 that i use on track.

I took it for a gentle test drive and am relieved to report that all seemed well although i was careful to not make the suspension compress at any point! I'm not overly keen on the wider front 18's 'blocky' appearance either but the drive felt so different to standard wheels and was almost go-kart like despite the Cups scrabbling for grip in the cold temperatures.

It will be interesting to see what this set-up is like on track! Looking forward to Donny on the 18th :whistle:

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:smokin:

[monkeycsl]

looking good personally prefer original csl wheels but for track option very good.liking the nice clean arches too :thumbs:

[cslgirl]

Looking good!!!!

[_Nathan_]

Love them, prefer the gold centres though.

10mm spacer on the front would give you a little more room on the outside?

[baldydaz]

i'm doing donington on the 18th too. i'll try not to get in your way

[ando]

Wheels look :drool: liking then a lot.

Ando.

[Roland]

Looking good Rob :thumbs:

[daniel]

Looks good!:thumbs:

What offset do they work out to be? I say they will rub at the point where the wing meets the bumper.

[Bealo]

Looking good Shortstuff :thumbs:

[DazBlackCSL]

Looking good Shortstuff :thumbs:

:hahaha:

Nice Rob .. Gold centres needed also ;)

My cups are in storage at ze ring :-(

[funtime]

Looks awesome Rob, although I think pink centres would set them off :thumbs:

[Gunscrossed]

Look cool, what offset at the front?

[shane@mbtech]

Lookin good rob

It will look awesome on track
You will notice a big difference on turn in,

How are the Tyres I got you?

[glendog74]

10mm spacer on the front would give you a little more room on the outside?

I was thinking that - i need to dial in the extra camber on the fronts to.

i'm doing donington on the 18th too. i'll try not to get in your way

:hahaha: I drive slow and steady :whistle:


Nice Rob .. Gold centres needed also ;)
(

I think on a SB car that would look great but i prefer all silver on the SG :smokin:

Looks awesome Rob, although I think pink centres would set them off :thumbs:

:birdman:

Look cool, what offset at the front?

Front: ET41
Rear: ET28

Lookin good rob

It will look awesome on track
You will notice a big difference on turn in,

How are the Tyres I got you?

I noticed a big difference on road yesterday on a short test drive!

Your rear tyres were cold and hard yesterday - spinning away merrily :hahaha:

[karbonkid]

They're looking v.smart Rob! :thumbs:
You running a 285 on the rear there?

[glendog74]

They're looking v.smart Rob! :thumbs:
You running a 285 on the rear there?

Yes mate - i wanted to keep the staggered setup and experience the extra grip that the 285's offer ;)

[Mark CSL]

Looking good Rob the car is on its hole :hahaha:

[s.mac]

nice Rob :smokin:

car still looking clean :)

Ive got to say, Shimmy's 18"s looked good today :smokin: car set up looked bang on.

[AlexGTT]

Looking sweet mate. You have plenty of front strut clearance so 10mm front spacers would be ideal.:thumbs:

Looking forward to Donny. I'll be running rear CSL's all round to get rid of my stack of 265 Cups.:whistle: Wheel studs also for quick change and ease of spacer fitment solutions.

[double_r]

The 18's look great on the car.

I had them in 19's on my non CSL M3. A pic for reference:
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[s.mac]

nice pic double r
your signiture / track day looks a bit quiet? did you hire the track to yourself :119:

[double_r]

nice pic double r
your signiture / track day looks a bit quiet? did you hire the track to yourself :119:

Looks that way but the rain had just stopped and I was the first one out while the other guys were swapping tires.

[northernjim]

looking good personally prefer original csl wheels but for track option very good.liking the nice clean arches too :thumbs:

+1

Although I think you are only part slag at the minute...

for the total track slag look you'd need gold centres and the +10bhp shimmy stickers :smokin:

[M3RS]

Very nice!

I would kill for these wheels. Where you get them from? Sadly they are very expensive.

[7.77]

definitely the best wheels to buy even fitted on my friend's grannie:thumbs:

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[pinkpanther008]

Awesome track inspired wheels, let us know how they roll:-)

[alexk]

Best wheel for a BMW, especially a CSL.

Well done Rob, it was a good choice :thumbs:

Did you weight them by the way ?

[shane@mbtech]

Awesome track inspired wheels, let us know how they roll:-)

Round hopefully;)

Or glendoggy will be pissed

[Yanto]

Looks awesome Rob, although I think pink centres would set them off :thumbs:

nah......he's thinking outside the box this season Funtime.....

Rob at Kwikfit yesterday.........:gayfight:

[funtime]

nah......he's thinking outside the box this season Funtime.....

Rob at Kwikfit yesterday.........:gayfight:

:hahaha::hahaha::gayfight:

which one is he? on the left or the right? :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

+1

Although I think you are only part slag at the minute...

for the total track slag look you'd need gold centres and the +10bhp shimmy stickers :smokin:

Agree with Jim :thumbs: get them GOLD in the middle as they're too BLING at the mo. ;) :hahaha:
Remember the original inspiration Rob ? :whistle:

[glendog74]

Rob at Kwikfit yesterday.........:gayfight:

:hahaha: :birdman:


which one is he? on the left or the right? :whistle:

All these comments and you haven't even met me yet... :birdman:

Agree with Jim :thumbs: get them GOLD in the middle as they're too BLING at the mo. ;) :hahaha:


Negative - gold looks naff on a SG car.

The only colour they may end up becoming is a gunmetal... :whistle:

[funtime]

All these comments and you haven't even met me yet... :birdman:



If i'd already met you I wouldn't be asking which one you were in the photo :hahaha::birdman:

Must say though, whether it's left or right you look very convincing ;):hahaha:

[M3RS]

Make them red! :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Make them red! :thumbs:

Now that's an idea! :thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

Now that's an idea! :thumbs:

No it's not Robert.;)

[Bounce]

No it's not Robert.;):hahaha::hahaha:

[englebert]

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.

Leave them silver. How did you get hold of them, they are motorsport only, right? Did you get them S/H or are they new? Ive investigated getting magnesium LMs before direct from BBS and they wanted a minimum order, like 5 sets or something...

[glendog74]

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.

Leave them silver. How did you get hold of them, they are motorsport only, right? Did you get them S/H or are they new? Ive investigated getting magnesium LMs before direct from BBS and they wanted a minimum order, like 5 sets or something...

I bought them secondhand from a guy in Italy - they are in good condition though and are 4 years old. I like the E88s as the bolt heads are hidden making the outer face look neater as opposed to the LMs. They are also lighter than the LMs.

[TANKSLAPPER]

They are also lighter than the LMs.

Not with those fooking big tyres on. :banghead:

T$

[shane@mbtech]

Not with those fooking big tyres on. :banghead:

T$


The rears are like fooking drag radials:smokin:

[glendog74]

Not with those fooking big tyres on. :banghead:

T$

Slightly less weight than a 19" OEM rear wheel + 265 tyre ;)

The rears are like fooking drag radials:smokin:

They sit nicely within the rear arches - just like the 19's with spacers ;)

[englebert]

Well you are a lucky man..i'm dead jealous.

[mattCSLnut]

The rears are like fooking drag radials:smokin:
:hahaha: " Hoosier " come to mind :whistle:

[alexk]

Rob, do you have any update about the awesome E88s ?
Did you see difference in laptimes ?

[glendog74]

Rob, do you have any update about the awesome E88s ?
Did you see difference in laptimes ?

Hi Alex,

I now like them a lot although it took a couple of track days to get used to the 'feel' of them compared to OEM 19" wheels.

I can definitely feel the extra front end grip and have confidence in that as well as being able to brake that little later due to the extra rubber in contact with the road. I don't really 'feel' there is any difference in having the wider rears, however.

I now have to drive with DSC off as the rears upset the system otherwise. I like using SMG S6 now though! :thumbs:

As for lap times, i wouldn't really know as i don't time and am not too bothered to be honest. I do know i was running low 8 minute laps at the Ring back in April. :whistle:

[alexk]

Sounds good then :thumbs:

I asked about laptimes on a 'normal' track and not the Nordschleife.

[pkumarm3]

why did u go for a staggered set up vs. a square set up? wouldn't that be best to extend the life of your tires?

[glendog74]

why did u go for a staggered set up vs. a square set up? wouldn't that be best to extend the life of your tires?

I wanted to keep the staggered setup as BMW intended for the car. I bought these wheels second hand so they were already made up to be staggered with the correct offsets machined onto the wheel hub faces.

To be honest, whilst i may well go through front tyres quicker as i cannot rotate to the rear, my rears last longer staying put on the rear axle - on track at least. I do not use these wheels on road.

[loosifer]

oh...that Good:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[natty99]

you sir are a baller! Wish I could afford them for my regular wheels, let along track wheels lol

[M3CSL]

I fitted my BBS E88 track wheels today to see if there were any issues with widths or arch/suspension clearances, etc.

I decided last year that i would change from wheel bolts to wheel studs/nuts for convenience so i fitted these first. It was a straight forward job and involved cleaning the hub threads prior to applying a drop of Loctite 262 high strength threadlocker and torque tightening the studs to 16 ft lbs.

The 10.5 x 18J rears went on without spacers and fitted nicely with a little clearance from the wheel arch and without any issues with suspension.

The 9.5 x 18J fronts had to have 12mm spacers fitted to fit ok and even so the inner edge of the rim is at most 5mm away from my KW Clubsport spring/strut upright... The top outer edge of the tyre looks like it would come into contact with the arch but this is partly down to only having around -2.2 degrees camber set on the fronts vice the -3.2 that i use on track.

I took it for a gentle test drive and am relieved to report that all seemed well although i was careful to not make the suspension compress at any point! I'm not overly keen on the wider front 18's 'blocky' appearance either but the drive felt so different to standard wheels and was almost go-kart like despite the Cups scrabbling for grip in the cold temperatures.

It will be interesting to see what this set-up is like on track! Looking forward to Donny on the 18th :whistle:

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:smokin:

nice brother :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[Porker]

I'm having a look around to fit gold E88's to my (black) CSL.

I would fit 9.5J 18's all round. If anyone knows a good source for these, or knows of anyone selling theirs, do let me know!

[alexk]

Let me know as well if you find a good source :thumbs:

Edit: I have found these guys -> http://racingteam-hofmann.de/motorsportfelgen.htm but didn't contact them yet.

[Mike R]

I'm having a look around to fit gold E88's to my (black) CSL.

I would fit 9.5J 18's all round. If anyone knows a good source for these, or knows of anyone selling theirs, do let me know!

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19s (in any of the following widths 8.5" / 9" / 9.5" / 10") and any offset are 5,915 Euros :bigcry:

18s ditto above are 5,525 Euros :bigcry:.

Both are delivered to UK prices.

As you might know the BBS E88 are built to order, therefore the order time can take up to 6-8 weeks. But you can get a wheel set specifically produced for your car (so staggered widths and offsets would be no extra cost).

This is dealing direct with BBS.

[alexk]

Mike is this the price of one or of a set ?

[Mike R]

Mike is this the price of one or of a set ?

They're expensive, but they're not THAT expensive :119: - the price is for a full set of four wheels in either 18" or 19". Widths and offsets have no effect on the price.

The price also includes VAT @ 20% (which obviously isn't applicable to Switzerland).

[alexk]

They're expensive, but they're not THAT expensive :119: - the price is for a full set of four wheels in either 18" or 19". Widths and offsets have no effect on the price.

The price also includes VAT @ 20% (which obviously isn't applicable to Switzerland).

Thanks, the price is decent in my opinion.
I might consider a set next year.

[Mike R]

I think I'd prefer the LMs.....

[_Nathan_]

I love E88 but NTM Pista III are mega light and strong, would be my choice for a track car if I had more money.

[$w!ft]

I love E88 but NTM Pista III are mega light and strong, would be my choice for a track car if I had more money.

I want to pick up a set of 18" wheels and am very tempted by CCW Classics and BBS E88...

Any pics of the NTM on a normal e46?

THey look pretty mean but these are all widebodys so very large lips

http://static.schmiedmann.dk/ProductPictures/image_96521_big.jpg

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[0-60Motorsports]

They look amazing!