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steve2009
22-02-2011, 05:10 PM
LIke the title says how do these tyres compare to the likes of a048 v70 pilot cups etc. I will be doing quite a few track days this yr and would like some expert opinions if anyone has came across these tyres.

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 05:17 PM
LIke the title says how do these tyres compare to the likes of a048 v70 pilot cups etc. I will be doing quite a few track days this yr and would like some expert opinions if anyone has came across these tyres.


AWESOM :supz: Super grippy and long lasting :thumbs: a tad expensive however, when bought New, not that I would know anything about that :whistle: They have been superseded few years ago by DZ03g, which are even better, so they say ;):hahaha:

northernjim
22-02-2011, 05:24 PM
whore! /\ /\
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:




but briefly on topic for once, dunlops are supposed to be amazing track tyres - never heard a bad thing said about them:beer:

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 05:32 PM
whore!
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

but briefly on topic for once, dunlops are supposed to be amazing track tyres - never heard a bad thing said about them:beer:
:smt055 U too Jim-Bow :blalalala: :hahaha:
They should be amazing considering what they cost ... £330 per corner :119: in 265 35 18 :bigcry: That's more then same size Mich CUPs and I don't think they are that much better, though U do get more tread with them in the first place :whistle: and they seem to last longer :beer:

steve2009
22-02-2011, 05:46 PM
wow that seems pretty steep lol i really do hope they are worth the extra doh. where bouts do you get these tyres from matt? they hardly look like a road legal tyre.. maybe thats what i like about them :thumbs:
:smt055 U too Jim-Bow :blalalala: :hahaha:
They should be amazing considering what they cost ... £330 per corner :119: in 265 35 18 :bigcry: That's more then same size Mich CUPs and I don't think they are that much better, though U do get more tread with them in the first place :whistle: and they seem to last longer :beer:

shimmy
22-02-2011, 06:32 PM
They aren't road legal, but don't tell Matt as he drives to Germany on them:thumbs:

shimmy
22-02-2011, 06:33 PM
A set of 265/35/18 Cups from mutters costs £1050 delivered I think, maybe £1100

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 06:36 PM
They aren't road legal, but don't tell Matt as he drives to Germany on them:thumbs:
I wish I bloody did sometimes :blalalala: instead I spent half of my life loading them into the CSL, loading them out of the CSL , then bolting them onto my CSL and them taking them off the CSL :banghead:
I wish I'd just left the bastard things On :bigcry:

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 06:38 PM
A set of 265/35/18 Cups from mutters costs £1050 delivered I think, maybe £1100
What's the availability like ? :whistle:

glendog74
22-02-2011, 06:40 PM
What's the availability like ? :whistle:

My pair arrived from Mytyres.com (in Germany) just 3 days after ordering! :thumbs:

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 06:41 PM
My pair arrived from Mytyres.com (in Germany) just 3 days after ordering! :thumbs:
That's impressive :thumbs: and what did that pair set you back ?

glendog74
22-02-2011, 06:44 PM
That's impressive :thumbs: and what did that pair set you back ?

£535 delivered :thumbs:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6145&page=4

steve2009
22-02-2011, 07:15 PM
im sure the dz02's are road legal unless its changed this year. i've decided to go for a set of these or it'l be the dz03's, what do you's run on trackdays your 18's ? or 19's? i was hopin to get 18" rears all round for track :thumbs:

They aren't road legal, but don't tell Matt as he drives to Germany on them:thumbs:

karbonkid
22-02-2011, 07:25 PM
im sure the dz02's are road legal unless its changed this year. i've decided to go for a set of these or it'l be the dz03's, what do you's run on trackdays your 18's ? or 19's? i was hopin to get 18" rears all round for track :thumbs:

DZ02s are no longer, they were taken over by the 03s.

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 08:31 PM
DZ02s are no longer, they were taken over by the 03s.

Is there an echo in here ? :whistle: ................. ;) :hahaha:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6286&page=2

s.mac
22-02-2011, 08:35 PM
DZ02s are no longer, they were taken over by the 03s ;)

mattCSLnut
22-02-2011, 08:39 PM
DZ02s are no longer, they were taken over by the 03s ;)
There's always one "Numb Nut" :smt031 ;) :hahaha:

Mark CSL
22-02-2011, 08:59 PM
I was looking at the o3s for my evo are they not road legal ?
I have full slicks for trackdays and need a good tyre for the damp and wet :whistle:

TANKSLAPPER
22-02-2011, 09:08 PM
Wingnut "alert" :bigcry:

T$

AlexGTT
22-02-2011, 11:08 PM
Can someone tell me if DZ02s are still available? :clown:

glendog74
22-02-2011, 11:15 PM
Can someone tell me if DZ02s are still available? :clown:

What are DZ02s? :smt017

AlexGTT
22-02-2011, 11:40 PM
What are DZ02s? :smt017

Only the very bestest tyre ever invented in the history of the World. ;)

glendog74
22-02-2011, 11:45 PM
Only the very bestest tyre ever invented in the history of the World. ;)

Ahh, that's why Matt has them! :hahaha:

I think i'll stick with the tried and tested Cup tyres :smt055

AlexGTT
22-02-2011, 11:48 PM
Cups give me wood........:smt055











Did I just say that out loud!:whistle:;)

glendog74
22-02-2011, 11:55 PM
Cups give me wood........:smt055











Did I just say that out loud!:whistle:;)

Good man! :smokin:

titan
23-02-2011, 01:00 AM
I first experienced DZ03 on a 550bhp evo - the R888s just got melted with that level of power on a 4WD drivetrain through corners (ie stomping on the gas). I continued with them as the power went up and up and they've done the job very well.

My bro started to get through a set of R888 on his R26.R in a single trackday so I suggested the same. Again, same result, the DZ03 handles abuse far better and although more expensive, worked out the cheaper buy.

however I will say this - they don't have quite as much feel to them as softer tyres and they need a good bit of heat in them. With wide profile in the rain they are very hard and plasticky and quite a liability.

I'm not using them on the CSL as I feel the CSL isn't heavy/powerful enough to demand them, I'll go back to R888 when they come back into stock !

oh, and I found Cup tyres very nice indeed, lots of feel and probably harder wearing than R888, but not by much, very little tread to start with and $$$ to buy.

AlexGTT
23-02-2011, 05:27 PM
With the CSL correctly set up I have yet to find a compromise road/track trye that compares to Cups. The feel, stability, quick warm up times and ability to handle extensive track work without overheating are what I like about them. For all that I can forgive shallow tread depth and compromised abilities in very wet and/or very cold conditions.

Oh, and cost but when has quality ever been cheap?

Curly
24-02-2011, 01:58 PM
I first experienced DZ03 on a 550bhp evo - the R888s just got melted with that level of power on a 4WD drivetrain through corners (ie stomping on the gas). I continued with them as the power went up and up and they've done the job very well.

My bro started to get through a set of R888 on his R26.R in a single trackday so I suggested the same. Again, same result, the DZ03 handles abuse far better and although more expensive, worked out the cheaper buy.

however I will say this - they don't have quite as much feel to them as softer tyres and they need a good bit of heat in them. With wide profile in the rain they are very hard and plasticky and quite a liability.

I'm not using them on the CSL as I feel the CSL isn't heavy/powerful enough to demand them, I'll go back to R888 when they come back into stock !

oh, and I found Cup tyres very nice indeed, lots of feel and probably harder wearing than R888, but not by much, very little tread to start with and $$$ to buy.
Spot on plus the 888 are very noisey the DZ03 not to bad but for me the cup's still the daddy overall

magnust
25-02-2011, 04:24 PM
Both Direzza 2 and 3 are road legal here in Sweden thanks to the European equivalent to the US DOT approval, the "E" approval (have no idea what it's properly called in english, sorry). Since the "E" approval is European wide I'd be very surprised if they weren't road legal in the UK. They are both road legal in Germany for sure.

I've driven my previous M3 (a E36 four door) on a LOT of different r-tyres and the 02's were great but one had to be careful to pick the right compound, what Dunlop called medium was closer to other brands soft, on the M3 you had to go to hard not to burn up the 02's. I haven't heard much about the 03's other than that they are very very good, but it's possible the compound issue is the same. Just a friendly tip.

magnust
25-02-2011, 04:31 PM
The only downside of the Michelins IMHO is that they are by far the worst gripping r-compound tire at low temperatures, say below 15 degrees or something. I never have such slippery first lap with r-compounds from Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, Toyo, Pirelli, Kumho in similar (not hot summer days...) conditions. But once you get just some heat in them they are truly superb!

shimmy
25-02-2011, 06:19 PM
Spot on plus the 888 are very noisey the DZ03 not to bad but for me the cup's still the daddy overall

:thumbs:

Both Direzza 2 and 3 are road legal here in Sweden thanks to the European equivalent to the US DOT approval, the "E" approval (have no idea what it's properly called in english, sorry). Since the "E" approval is European wide I'd be very surprised if they weren't road legal in the UK. They are both road legal in Germany for sure.

I've driven my previous M3 (a E36 four door) on a LOT of different r-tyres and the 02's were great but one had to be careful to pick the right compound, what Dunlop called medium was closer to other brands soft, on the M3 you had to go to hard not to burn up the 02's. I haven't heard much about the 03's other than that they are very very good, but it's possible the compound issue is the same. Just a friendly tip.

I was just winding up Matt:whistle:


The only downside of the Michelins IMHO is that they are by far the worst gripping r-compound tire at low temperatures, say below 15 degrees or something. I never have such slippery first lap with r-compounds from Yokohama, Bridgestone, Dunlop, Toyo, Pirelli, Kumho in similar (not hot summer days...) conditions. But once you get just some heat in them they are truly superb!

Very true, they can be slipperier than an eel who is professor of slipperiness at Oxford University