Bad News From The 'Ring

[kbird]

Sabine wishes you Happy Christmas but there is bad news at the 'Ring...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplEKGs6Yj4

[Curly]

Could do with dropping the prices the place is a rip off now

[glendog74]

Added.

Shocking state of affairs - letting businessmen try and turn a huge profit based on made-up attendance numbers of the past... :banghead:

[rstoughy]

yep i've "liked" it.

[TANKSLAPPER]

WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT !

Can some one put a link up for "SaveTheRing"

As I'm not on facefuck

Cheers

T$

[glendog74]

WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT !

Can some one put a link up for "SaveTheRing"

As I'm not on facefuck

Cheers

T$

Merry Christmas Victor :thumbs:

[alexk]

WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT !

Can some one put a link up for "SaveTheRing"

As I'm not on facefuck

Cheers

T$

Here you go T$
http://jalopnik.com/5684589/save-the-nurburgring

I am not sure how we can save the Ring ?
Shall we start a world-tour on CSLs to protest ?

[alexk]

I start to think that some Greeks are involved in "Ring AG" :blalalala::blalalala::blalalala:

[Kislik]

these problems are there for the whole last year. Have heard horrible stories from people close to the Nurbugring gmbh...

I just got season ticket for 2011 hope it will be fine, even it's more expensive again

[shane@mbtech]

We are all booking the ring trip this year with CD, hope its still there come august time:bigcry:

[Kislik]

actually i did not get what's the problem. ok i know there is huge debt ant the whole ring werk is huge fail and it was rented or sold to Linder.. but i don't see any bad point now expect of price increase.... do i miss something?

[alexk]

We need to save the Ring

You missed this bit ^

I assume this means = spend as much as you can so as the prices increase more in 2012

[TANKSLAPPER]

[quote=alexk;76517]Here you go T$
http://jalopnik.com/5684589/save-the-nurburgring

cheers matey :thumbs:

T$

[TANKSLAPPER]

Merry Christmas Victor :thumbs:


You we pay for this one. lol :blalalala:

T$

[azrael]

Isn't the ring owned by the government, therefore not likely to fail?

The management company may fail to make a profit though and another one will be found, or it will fall back to the old days. I can't imagine the Ring closing

[TANKSLAPPER]

These stories come out this time every year. :whistle:

It's a German pass time, as the Ring is closed and they are bored to fooking tears with nothing better to do. lol

Business as usual


I reckon they should separate the ownership of the Nordschleife and the Nurburgdisney and let the private enterprise fail.

T$

[Curly]

We are all booking the ring trip this year with CD, hope its still there come august time:bigcry:

I went on that tour with CD in 06 in the csl, didn't rate it myself they failed to notify me about the change of time for the ferry sailing and the hotel was suppose to be 4star in Koln but it had warm beer and no aircon it was 30 degrees outside. It was a pain in the arse travelling from Koln to the ring everyday the thing is they had too many on the tour, poorly orgainsed and not really good value for money you would be far better doing your own thing

[DazBlackCSL]

I went on that tour with CD in 06 in the csl, didn't rate it myself they failed to notify me about the change of time for the ferry sailing and the hotel was suppose to be 4star in Koln but it had warm beer and no aircon it was 30 degrees outside. It was a pain in the arse travelling from Koln to the ring everyday the thing is they had too many on the tour, poorly orgainsed and not really good value for money you would be far better doing your own thing

+ 1 heard some bad things also


Lawsy I'm doing some research and looking into the whole pre org private days at the ring RSR do a package with the hotel including food which is a known entity, bit pricey but you do get what you pay for !

There are also a few other little cheeky things that may pop up will know more mid Jan on that.
:thumbs: ;)

[northernjim]

'liked' cheers roberto:beer:

but what exactly do they want? money???

where would this money go? to the existing knobjockeys? or are we financing a revolution:smokin:

so they have made a big cock up with developing the place?! surprise surprise, why can't they just go bust, let someone else start again?:beer:


I went on that tour with CD in 06 in the csl, didn't rate it myself they failed to notify me about the change of time for the ferry sailing and the hotel was suppose to be 4star in Koln but it had warm beer and no aircon it was 30 degrees outside. It was a pain in the arse travelling from Koln to the ring everyday the thing is they had too many on the tour, poorly orgainsed and not really good value for money you would be far better doing your own thing

this year they are staying at the lindner on site ( I assume thats part of the deal TDO get when they book the ring now) so I can't see it being such a cock up this time curly

[glendog74]

Interesting video link from the 1960s - check out the narrow track with walls and bushes next to it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkZwGa50eqM

:thumbs:

[kbird]

My favourite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoa6mloRf2Q

[northernjim]

:thumbs: nice find Rob :smt114

[Curly]

'liked' cheers roberto:beer:

but what exactly do they want? money???

where would this money go? to the existing knobjockeys? or are we financing a revolution:smokin:

so they have made a big cock up with developing the place?! surprise surprise, why can't they just go bust, let someone else start again?:beer:




this year they are staying at the lindner on site ( I assume thats part of the deal TDO get when they book the ring now) so I can't see it being such a cock up this time curly

Yeah Jim that looks more like it this time:smokin:there uk track days are fine

[mattCSLnut]

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=23159

[northernjim]

Yep already knew that:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry: That was a goal of mine this year- actually be shown how to drive:bigcry:


SCUDERIA HANSEAT BLASTS 'RING MANAGEMENT
Supercar race school with 52-year heritage at the Nurburgring launches scathing attack on the new operators and cancels its spring booking


The trouble at the 'ring shows no sign of blowing over, as the battle between big-budget driving school Scuderia Hanseat and the new 'ring management has spilled out into the public arena. In a press release seething with barely concealed anger, Scuderia Hanseat celebrates the Nordschleife's unique place in motorsport history while saying "the new management of the Nürburgring is now threatening to destroy this tradition, this success and not least the promotion for the region."
Strong words that Scuderia Hanseat backs up with hard facts about exactly what its 300 or so high-rolling customers bring to the Eifel community on their twice-yearly visits to the Nordschleife. This includes 100,000 euros-worth of fuel being poured into thirsty supercars and 3200 nights-worth of accommodation booked out in the local region, not to mention the additional spending in shops, bars and restaurants.

That's money that Nürburgring Automotive GmbH, the circuit's new operator, desperately wants to rake in itself in an effort to both turn a profit and meet local government demands for paying back the 350m euros of public money the redevelopments at the Grand Prix track have cost.

Scuderia Hanseat is among track day organisers, racing schools and the famed 'industry pool' in feeling the pinch of new, hard-nosed business tactics employed by Nürburgring Automotive that have seen long-standing contracts ripped up and prices hiked by huge margins. In Scuderia Hanseat's case this amounts to, it's claimed, a price rise of 60 per cent and reduced track time, contrary to agreements laid down before the new management took over.

The Hanseat press release doesn't hold back either, saying "it is regrettable that, at Scuderia Hanseat alone, 80 staff members and hundreds of drivers are affected by the business tactics of Automotive GmbH." It goes on to say "these business tactics by the new "Ring Masters" are depriving the local hospitality industry, the car industry and the local towns and communities of valuable income."

In a high-stake game of double bluff, Scuderia Hanseat has decided to cancel the first of its 2011 bookings and take legal action in an attempt to force Nürburgring Automotive to honour what it says were existing contracts. PistonHeads contacted Nürburgring Automotive for comment, but none was forthcoming at the time of writing.

[mattCSLnut]

Yep already knew that:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry: That was a goal of mine this year- actually be shown how to drive:bigcry:


Maybe even in the dry ;) for once :hahaha:

[Justin]

Yep already knew that:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry: That was a goal of mine this year- actually be shown how to drive:bigcry:


SCUDERIA HANSEAT BLASTS 'RING MANAGEMENT
Supercar race school with 52-year heritage at the Nurburgring launches scathing attack on the new operators and cancels its spring booking


The trouble at the 'ring shows no sign of blowing over, as the battle between big-budget driving school Scuderia Hanseat and the new 'ring management has spilled out into the public arena. In a press release seething with barely concealed anger, Scuderia Hanseat celebrates the Nordschleife's unique place in motorsport history while saying "the new management of the Nürburgring is now threatening to destroy this tradition, this success and not least the promotion for the region."
Strong words that Scuderia Hanseat backs up with hard facts about exactly what its 300 or so high-rolling customers bring to the Eifel community on their twice-yearly visits to the Nordschleife. This includes 100,000 euros-worth of fuel being poured into thirsty supercars and 3200 nights-worth of accommodation booked out in the local region, not to mention the additional spending in shops, bars and restaurants.

That's money that Nürburgring Automotive GmbH, the circuit's new operator, desperately wants to rake in itself in an effort to both turn a profit and meet local government demands for paying back the 350m euros of public money the redevelopments at the Grand Prix track have cost.

Scuderia Hanseat is among track day organisers, racing schools and the famed 'industry pool' in feeling the pinch of new, hard-nosed business tactics employed by Nürburgring Automotive that have seen long-standing contracts ripped up and prices hiked by huge margins. In Scuderia Hanseat's case this amounts to, it's claimed, a price rise of 60 per cent and reduced track time, contrary to agreements laid down before the new management took over.

The Hanseat press release doesn't hold back either, saying "it is regrettable that, at Scuderia Hanseat alone, 80 staff members and hundreds of drivers are affected by the business tactics of Automotive GmbH." It goes on to say "these business tactics by the new "Ring Masters" are depriving the local hospitality industry, the car industry and the local towns and communities of valuable income."

In a high-stake game of double bluff, Scuderia Hanseat has decided to cancel the first of its 2011 bookings and take legal action in an attempt to force Nürburgring Automotive to honour what it says were existing contracts. PistonHeads contacted Nürburgring Automotive for comment, but none was forthcoming at the time of writing.

bummer...a few more TF days this year then :smt023

[mattCSLnut]

Quick update regarding the future of the Nurburgring courtesy of PH.
Sounds like the German government are finally having enough of the current "Ring Mafia" lot :whistle: Full details in the link below:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=25151