70's 3.5 CSL Race Car Project

[tomroche]

Hi everyone, this is my first post on here.

As in the title I have a slightly older CSL to most of your new shiny cars on here :smt023 but I hope that some of you may be intrested/know lots about the original 70's cars.

This is it

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[tomroche]

This is the plan........

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[JezP]

Your gonna wish a 24hr day will double good luck with your project will be keeping an eye on this one.

Welcome btw.

[tomroche]

The car has come out of the garage after around 25years as I finally feel its time to start work on it, I have a good friend who normally works on restoring Escorts to world class condition who will be doing the work.

A quick look at parts prices are as I expected very, very expensive. So.... Lets make it a race car!! In my opinion the motorsport cars look far better than the road 'batmobiles' and would be an absolute dream car :drool:

I'm not even sure were to start though, the car is in its new home, my mates workshops, being completley stripped ready for dipping.

I have most parts for fixing the body already but just how different were the works race cars of 74 and 75 to the road cars?? Im guessing the wide arches are fibreglass? Front splitter fibreglass? The engine is going to be the biggest decission, i know the race cars had the twin cam head and special injection, plus being bored out to 3.5 litre and revving to 9,000 rpm!! So whether I go down this route or get a 3.8 M5 engine im not sure...

Ultimatley the car needs its FIA HTP papers and so will be eligable for classic racing but I am not sure if this will be straight away or in a few years...

As i am sure you can tell, this is a very new project and I have no idea how much work will be involved, except that it will be a LOT!!! So I am after any ideas/ thoughts/ pictures/ facts/ prices/ usefull people/ parts etc that you may know or have heard of please :thumbs: :thumbs:

Any help will be very much appreciated :smt055

Tom

[cslgirl]

:thumbs: I can't wait to see the finished result. The batmobile is an awesome looking car and I would love to own one.

Look forward to seeing your progress

[rstoughy]

Sorry mate that is beyond repair.

I'll do you a favour and take it off your hands for £500 ;) :whistle:
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What an awesome machine, cant wait to see this finished :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Best of luck with the project.

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Tomroche- Are you planning to build the car
to Grp A spec ie ''BatMobile'' or just your
own take ?

M88 6 pot with Kulgfischer fuel injection,
or S38 [e28 e34 M5 lump] with the Getrag
5 speed.

Reason I ask is that along with a colleague with
have a genuine Lightweight shell, with the
proper Grp 5 Alloy Arches etc and load of other stuff.

If that might be of interest, then please let me know.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[azrael]

Looks like a great project. Lots of time and deep pockets though.

Be great to keep seeing the progress

[sailorbaz]

Good luck with that and I look forward to good picture progress reports.

[billy-m3cutters]

I was waiting impatiently for someone to pop-up on this site with the classic CSL.


I'll be watching this project closely.

[tomroche]

Thanks everyone! It's a shame that the work will be happening around 100 miles away so no regular photos sorry, I will try to keep updated though :)

[tomroche]

Hi,

Tomroche- Are you planning to build the car
to Grp A spec ie ''BatMobile'' or just your
own take ?

M88 6 pot with Kulgfischer fuel injection,
or S38 [e28 e34 M5 lump] with the Getrag
5 speed.

Reason I ask is that along with a colleague with
have a genuine Lightweight shell, with the
proper Grp 5 Alloy Arches etc and load of other stuff.

If that might be of interest, then please let me know.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

Hi Gorilla,

The plan is for the car to be built to group a spec and gain it's FIA HTP as the cars are now becoming eligible for classic le mans etc.

I would be very intrested to see what you have, what are your plans for the shell? Would you be able to post/send some pics please??

Thanks

[mattCSLnut]

I was waiting impatiently for someone to pop-up on this site with the classic CSL.
I'll be watching this project closely.

Same here :thumbs:
I :smt055 the original '70 CSL, esspecially in " Race Trim " :drool: :drool: :drool: but then U already knew that, looking @ my Avatar :whistle:

Welcome to the site "tomroche" :thumbs: ... below I enclose a few pix of a recreation BMW "Arts Car" CSL :smt055 I came across @ Brands Hatch TD in 2009 :drool: :drool: :drool:

[mattCSLnut]

M88 6 pot with Kulgfischer fuel injection,
or S38 [e28 e34 M5 lump] with the Getrag
5 speed.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

How about retrofitting the S54 [ M3 CSL lump ] into the Old girl, complete with the C.F. air box and the 6 Speed Manual gearbox out of a regular E46 M3 ? :whistle:

[AlexGTT]

This is awesome! Keep us up-dated. I'll be facinated to see how this develops.

Welcome to the club.:thumbs:

Thinking about it, should we not promote the reg more widely to the original CSL and their owners and how can we best do this?

[Bounce]

Welcome to the register mate,and best of luck with your project.:thumbs::thumbs:

[glendog74]

Welcome to the forum Tom :thumbs:

I will certainly be interested to see what the end result is!

BTW, can you make the pix a little larger as i can't quite make them out properly :whistle: :hahaha:

[glendog74]

This is awesome! Keep us up-dated. I'll be facinated to see how this develops.

Welcome to the club.:thumbs:

Thinking about it, should we not promote the reg more widely to the original CSL and their owners and how can we best do this?

There's already several dedicated E9 CS/CSL forums mate but they are more than welcome to join in here i'm sure!

We could have an 'Original CSL' area on here perhaps? :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

We could have an 'Original CSL' area on here perhaps? :smokin:

Great idea Rob :thumbs: I'll happily contribute a few pix :whistle:

[Bounce]

Great idea Rob :thumbs: I'll happily contribute a few pix :whistle:Funny that.;)

[shane@mbtech]

Funny that.;)

Not really Brett:hahaha:

[NZ_M3]

VERY COOL build - one of my all time favourite cars :thumbs::thumbs:
Good luck!!

[RolyGTIR]

Welcome to the forum Tom :thumbs:

I will certainly be interested to see what the end result is! :

+1 Tom - What an awesome project :thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

Great idea Rob :thumbs: I'll happily contribute a few pix :whistle:

Whore!;):hahaha:

[DuncanR]

Welcome Tom, good luck with the project, let me know if you need anything trailoring around mate ..unless you have your own !:thumbs:

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Tomroach- The Shell and parts are all stored away,
right at the back as well, with lots of other clutter.

I will see if I can take some pics
somehow over the Christmas period.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[tomroche]

Haha thanks everyone, sorry couldnt make the pics any bigger :smt002

If anyone has any more pics/ technical info available i would be very intrested to have a look...

Gorilla.. Looking forward to the pics thanks.

Fitting a later engine would be cool, not to mention a LOT cheaper but the problem is that the car needs to gain its HTP once finished to be worth the money its cost to build. I imagine I will have an engine built for historic racing and an m5 engine available for track days