View Full Version : weight info for parts...?
Kislik
12-12-2010, 03:07 PM
I'm sure You know this:-)
oem front seat weight ? thinking if change can help here, probably not much
rear seat removal - 17kg (already seen thread)
supersprint back box - 15kg? just guess
big brakes probably same weight are close
lighter wheels probably does not exist or not much
/I know air con can be removed and radio and speakres, but these i want to keep/
glendog74
12-12-2010, 08:50 PM
You can save around 1.5kg per wheel by choosing a lighter style.
Front seat replacement will save a fair amount of weight also as well as removing all the crap from the boot.
shimmy
12-12-2010, 08:57 PM
You can save around 1.5kg per wheel by choosing a lighter style.
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2.2kg actually with Volks :smt055
s.mac
12-12-2010, 09:04 PM
recaro pole postion seats are pretty light
This seat is also available in an ultra-lightweight Carbon-Kevlar CFK Composite, ideal for fitting to vehicles where shedding weight is a priority. The Carbon-Kevlar Pole Position ABE only weighs an incredible 4.5kg - perfect for the driver searching for the optimum racing performance
shimmy
12-12-2010, 09:17 PM
recaro pole postion seats are pretty light
be a bit careful as sat weights are always given ex cushions, mounts and sliders so make sure you add them for the comparison against CSL seats
my recordsm estimtaed that CSL to Recaro XPG saved around 5kg and Recaro XPG to Carbon saved a further 3 kg
s.mac
12-12-2010, 09:36 PM
thanks for the heads up mate
weights not an issue for me, its all for fun :thumbs:
I can vary by 30kg during the year... summer being the lightest time for me :hahaha:
glendog74
12-12-2010, 10:21 PM
thanks for the heads up mate
weights not an issue for me, its all for fun :thumbs:
I can vary by 30kg during the year... summer being the lightest time for me :hahaha:
Having a large poo just before a track day can help too :thumbs:
Bounce
12-12-2010, 10:33 PM
thanks for the heads up mate
weights not an issue for me, its all for fun :thumbs:
I can vary by 30kg during the year... summer being the lightest time for me :hahaha:Your not much more than 30kg wet anyway.;)
Kislik
13-12-2010, 08:41 AM
Shimmy do You mean per seat of for both?
and which Volks save 2,2kg per wheel?? that's very interesting
DazBlackCSL
13-12-2010, 08:44 AM
Shimmy do You mean per seat of for both?
and which Volks save 2,2kg per wheel?? that's very interesting
He prob means the 18"s, but they all save a heap of weight ..
Roly has my old 19" set for sale on here currently - RE30's ( in matt gunmetal )
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5837
Having a large poo just before a track day can help too :thumbs:
:hahaha:
shimmy
13-12-2010, 10:13 AM
Yes per seat
18 inch are lighter than 19 but 18 inch Cups are 0.5kg heavier than 19 so overall saving with my G2s is around 2.2kg per corner. Roly's Rays for sale will save nearly that as well :)
On top if that
SS backbox 12kg
Battery 7kg
Suspension 6kg
Seats 20kg (taking one out)
Rear seat and boot trims 20kg
BBK 5kg
Pollen filter 5 kg
Wheels 8kg (rotational)
Diet 20kg
Fluids 20kg
Puncture repAir etc 5kg
Kislik
13-12-2010, 12:22 PM
Yes per seat
18 inch are lighter than 19 but 18 inch Cups are 0.5kg heavier than 19 so overall saving with my G2s is around 2.2kg per corner. Roly's Rays for sale will save nearly that as well :)
On top if that
SS backbox 12kg
Battery 7kg
Suspension 6kg
Seats 20kg (taking one out)
Rear seat and boot trims 20kg
BBK 5kg
Pollen filter 5 kg
Wheels 8kg (rotational)
Diet 20kg
Fluids 20kg
Puncture repAir etc 5kg
great that's what i looked for. Now just tell me which battery is 7kg lighter, suspension i guess KW V3? , seats understand, rear seat understand, BBK ok, fluids?? how can i get off 20kg on fluids?
Curly
13-12-2010, 01:11 PM
great that's what i looked for. Now just tell me which battery is 7kg lighter, suspension i guess KW V3? , seats understand, rear seat understand, BBK ok, fluids?? how can i get off 20kg on fluids?
No washer fluid and run with less fuel
TANKSLAPPER
13-12-2010, 01:48 PM
Most of the weight reduction is from the dashboard back wards.
The tail is too light any way ! ! :bigcry::bigcry:
T$
shane@mbtech
13-12-2010, 02:13 PM
Best, cheapest and easiest way to make your car faster............................................ ..............
Let someone else drive it:hahaha:
shimmy
13-12-2010, 02:24 PM
great that's what i looked for. Now just tell me which battery is 7kg lighter, suspension i guess KW V3? , seats understand, rear seat understand, BBK ok, fluids?? how can i get off 20kg on fluids?
this is the one i have, used for a year now no problems
http://www.braillebattery.co.uk/index.php/batteries/b2317r/
Kislik
13-12-2010, 02:49 PM
Most of the weight reduction is from the dashboard back wards.
The tail is too light any way ! ! :bigcry::bigcry:
T$
good point, shave off 30kg just from the back of the car is not the smartest idea ...
maybe carbon engine block? :hahaha:
Shimmy thank You very useful link
shimmy
13-12-2010, 03:30 PM
good point, shave off 30kg just from the back of the car is not the smartest idea ...
maybe carbon engine block? :hahaha:
Shimmy thank You very useful link
i think youll find the car is still light heavy enough to get grip - its hardly a lightweight!:smokin:
Kislik
13-12-2010, 03:37 PM
i think youll find the car is still light heavy enough to get grip - its hardly a lightweight!:smokin:
as a real lightweight i race with Radical SR4, so I sure this will always be much heavier, just looking what all I can do without loosing the CSL soul :-)
looks like the mods will be
- SS back box and maybe pipes
- big brakes but no love for the 2 piece AP, more Movits or Brembo monoblocks
- battery change
- and maybe seats and 4 point seat belts and some removable harness bar
dmcCLS
13-12-2010, 04:26 PM
So how much weight would a carbon boot or bonnet save?
TANKSLAPPER
13-12-2010, 04:50 PM
So how much weight would a carbon boot or bonnet save?
Not a lot, as the boot skin is carbon and the bonnet Alloy.
Remove air con & Xenon is easier.
T$
AlexGTT
13-12-2010, 07:04 PM
No washer fluid and run with less fuel
But how would you pull the old "I had to wash my windscreen" trick John?:clown:;)
AlexGTT
13-12-2010, 07:07 PM
as a real lightweight i race with Radical SR4, so I sure this will always be much heavier, just looking what all I can do without loosing the CSL soul :-)
- big brakes but no love for the 2 piece AP, more Movits or Brembo monoblocks
Why? Most find AP's more than enough on a CSL. They won't fade for sure.
Kislik
13-12-2010, 07:31 PM
Why? Most find AP's more than enough on a CSL. They won't fade for sure.
just feeling that monoblock is better than 2 piece
AlexGTT
14-12-2010, 12:33 AM
just feeling that monoblock is better than 2 piece
It is, and if you were building a racecar fine. But you honestly won't need more than AP's with the right pad/disk combination for a TD car and especially at Ring.
NZ_M3
14-12-2010, 04:30 AM
Actually the factory boot lid is all FRP and it's freaking heavy - I have one in the closet and I can tell you that it was surprisingly heavy when I picked it up. You'd easily shave at least half the weight off one by going full single skin carbon fibre with no internal support structure. Just don't mount any spoilers on it instead mount it to the rear chassis rails ;)
Rutkowski
15-12-2010, 02:54 AM
Wheels, lighter seats and BBK - that'd be all for me. I think too much weight taken off would upset the car's balance....
azrael
15-12-2010, 11:19 AM
Also you would want to try and keep the near 50:50 weight distribution.
How weight you reckon needs to go to match the GT3 or GT3RS power to weight ratio? Only 10kg between the cars it seems. Obviously harnesses help and Aero
Kislik
14-05-2012, 08:17 PM
SO I have SS back box and battery and now suspension and recaros go in, cage goes in and rear seats go out. I'm curious the difference maybe I should let garage weight it before and after so we see some real data.
btw I also lost 10kg on driver weight reduction which I got for free :hahaha:
ChrisCSL
14-05-2012, 08:56 PM
Not a lot, as the boot skin is carbon and the bonnet Alloy.
Remove air con & Xenon is easier.
T$
How much can save bulbs compared to Xenons ?
toplad
15-05-2012, 11:55 AM
Just say you save 50Kg of weight, is it really going to make any difference in the real world, I know it does in theory.
Isn't just a massive waste of time and money to save what would probably be a 0.5 second, and only then if driven at 100% of the potential performance?
I would expect lighter wheels and better rubber to make the most difference
shimmy
15-05-2012, 11:57 AM
Just say you save 50Kg of weight, is it really going to make any difference in the real world, I know it does in theory.
Isn't just a massive waste of time and money to save what would probably be a 0.5 second, and only then if driven at 100% of the potential performance?
it all adds up. means very little when you are having fun, but if really trying to get the times down (which some sad-oos do) 50kg makes a diffenrence to power to weight, tyre life/grip, braking
AlexGTT
20-05-2012, 03:23 PM
it all adds up. means very little when you are having fun, but if really trying to get the times down (which some sad-oos like Shimmy do) 50kg makes a diffenrence to power to weight, tyre life/grip, braking
EFA
northernjim
23-05-2012, 12:38 AM
EFA
You got that one right Alex :beer:
He's one sad fekker that shimmmmymacher :hahaha:
Pot kettle he might say!
shimmy
23-05-2012, 01:14 AM
You got that one right Alex :beer:
He's one sad fekker that shimmmmymacher :hahaha:
TEAPot kettle he might say!
EFA:blalalala:
AlexGTT
23-05-2012, 07:00 PM
You got that one right Alex :beer:
He's one sad fekker that shimmmmymacher :hahaha:
Pot kettle he might say!
Your even worse Jim.:-D
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