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CraigMillwardCroft
03-11-2010, 03:47 PM
I am looking to purchase CSL for trackdays, what are the best brakes for the car and suspension to use.

shimmy
03-11-2010, 03:49 PM
I am looking to purchase CSL for trackdays, what are the best brakes for the car and suspension to use.


Craig

Welcome to the CSLRegister.

I have no idea how to answer your question but someone with knowledge on here will but best probably to buy the car first irrespective of the brakes and suspension on it and decide once youve driven it.

DazBlackCSL
03-11-2010, 03:52 PM
http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/tlxd/smileys/whoosh.gif

That's a bit of a open ended question, suggest you get the car, drive it, and then decide .. so many options, and everyone has there own opinions and needs :whistle:
Bit like walking into DFS and shouting what Sofa shall I buy :-D

Welcome Anyway !

shane@mbtech
03-11-2010, 04:01 PM
Brakes...... AP, best all round IMO, what 95% on here use too.
Alcon, again great set up but in my experience balance was out for track work.
K sport, budget brand that I personally would recommend, used on 500bhp EVO, for long period with no issues and endless stopping power, use better pads though as k sport pads are shit, use a carbotech if going this option.

Suspension...... take your pick, AST, KW, NITRON, MOTON, INTRAX, STANDARD, HSD, and theres more.


Loads on here run KW clubsport, loads run Intrax, a few run AST, ask each one they will no doubt advise their own choice.

I went with KW clubsport from recommendation, and experience of different cars. They were 100% reliable, 100% up to the job.


Take from this what you may.

DazBlackCSL
03-11-2010, 04:29 PM
and to follow on the sensible one's post :hahaha: ( lawsy you getting old ) :hahaha:

Currently running
AP's all round - RS29 pads ( perfect set up road and track )
KW Clubsport ( Perfect for track and little harsh for road - but 100% happy )

shimmy
03-11-2010, 04:38 PM
With my Mr Sensible hat on

APs all round for over 60k miles, as good as you need.

Currently OEM suspension but previously ran IntraxIK2 (sitting in the garage)

try this for a bit of info:smokin:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3139&highlight=suspension+poll

glendog74
03-11-2010, 05:36 PM
AP + KW Clubsport = sorted.

northernjim
03-11-2010, 06:10 PM
and to follow on the sensible one's post :hahaha: ( lawsy you getting old ) :hahaha:

Currently running
AP's all round - RS29 pads ( perfect set up road and track )
KW Clubsport ( Perfect for track and little harsh for road - but 100% happy )

when you say harsh, do you set them fully soft for the road? or leave em set for track?

just for future ref:smokin::whistle:

DazBlackCSL
03-11-2010, 06:18 PM
when you say harsh, do you set them fully soft for the road? or leave em set for track?

just for future ref:smokin::whistle:


im a lazy fooker, it's set for track / well the ring now really, and I dont change it.. :hahaha:

TBH I could tweak it soft and make it a bit more road set up... ;)

northernjim
03-11-2010, 06:42 PM
lol I know what you mean, I have the v3 on mine, and whenever I finish a track day I think I'll just soften em up a bit, then I lift the bonnet. look at the adjuster and get confused thinking which way is softer???:banghead:

quickly shut bonnet, like I have looked at what I was going too. and drive home all rattley:hahaha::hahaha::clown:

shimmy
03-11-2010, 06:44 PM
lol I know what you mean, I have the v3 on mine, and whenever I finish a track day I think I'll just soften em up a bit, then I lift the bonnet. look at the adjuster and get confused thinking which way is softer???:banghead:

quickly shut bonnet, like I have looked at what I was going too. and drive home all rattley:hahaha::hahaha::clown:

tbh honest i am surprised your bonnet catch still works!. My Smax one brokew within weeks of buying it:smokin:

DazBlackCSL
03-11-2010, 06:47 PM
tbh honest i am surprised your bonnet catch still works!. My Smax one brokew within weeks of buying it:smokin:

lol lol :hahaha: Shim has made me chuckle at least 4/5 times today .. :hahaha:

glendog74
03-11-2010, 06:52 PM
lol I know what you mean, I have the v3 on mine, and whenever I finish a track day I think I'll just soften em up a bit, then I lift the bonnet. look at the adjuster and get confused thinking which way is softer???:banghead:

quickly shut bonnet, like I have looked at what I was going too. and drive home all rattley:hahaha::hahaha::clown:

:smt120 :smt108 I dunno... :hahaha:

northernjim
03-11-2010, 06:52 PM
tbh honest i am surprised your bonnet catch still works!. My Smax one brokew within weeks of buying it:smokin:

:hahaha::hahaha::bigcry::birdman:

maybe you shut yours with a bit more gusto than I do mine? I've heard you're quite a well built chap ( in the nicest possible way:smokin:)

Bounce
03-11-2010, 07:19 PM
tbh honest i am surprised your bonnet catch still works!. My Smax one brokew within weeks of buying it:smokin::hahaha::hahaha:

titan
04-11-2010, 02:17 PM
I'd like to go in with a boring answer on the suspension.

Unless you're a racing driver, doing ring trips or use it extensively on the road, leave the thing alone.

On the road it can be a little harsh. I've done two UK tracks in the CSL with its stock suspension and its absolutely fine although if I'm being picky I'd say it doesn't deal with kerbs well. But stay off them ;-)

Doubt I'd want to tank round the 'ring with it though. I like battering the kerbs there and I think I'd want something a little more forgiving.

as for the brakes, APs or Alcons (CSL Cup Kit) I guess. I disagree with lawsy on the alcon balance issue, you can address that with different pad compounds. I'm currently running RS29s all round, will switch to carbotech XP10 front and XP8 rear. Also dependant on a great many other factors like personal preference and driving style, suspension etc.

shane@mbtech
04-11-2010, 03:30 PM
I'd like to go in with a boring answer on the suspension.

Unless you're a racing driver, doing ring trips or use it extensively on the road, leave the thing alone.

On the road it can be a little harsh. I've done two UK tracks in the CSL with its stock suspension and its absolutely fine although if I'm being picky I'd say it doesn't deal with kerbs well. But stay off them ;-)

Doubt I'd want to tank round the 'ring with it though. I like battering the kerbs there and I think I'd want something a little more forgiving.

as for the brakes, APs or Alcons (CSL Cup Kit) I guess. I disagree with lawsy on the alcon balance issue, you can address that with different pad compounds. I'm currently running RS29s all round, will switch to carbotech XP10 front and XP8 rear. Also dependant on a great many other factors like personal preference and driving style, suspension etc.


Tried different compounds front to rear. Still had the same issues.
It lost me 1-2 seconds a lap, such was the way I felt it unsettled the car.

On standard suspension it lacked front end grip only due to the lack of adjustability.

Stock suspension with camber adjustable top mounts would be a great, road/track/ring set-up IMO.

DazBlackCSL
04-11-2010, 04:44 PM
lol good to see he's been back on anyway... glad we all bothered replying :hahaha:

Dan
04-11-2010, 04:56 PM
lol good to see he's been back on anyway... glad we all bothered replying :hahaha:

I think he's a 'normal' who has a life away from the site unlike us lot! :clown: :hahaha: :hahaha:

DazBlackCSL
04-11-2010, 05:00 PM
I think he's a 'normal' who has a life away from the site unlike us lot! :clown: :hahaha: :hahaha:

To be fair tho, if you post up a Q I would at least be bothered to check back to see the replies .... but your right ;)

_Nathan_
04-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Stock suspension with camber adjustable top mounts would be a great, road/track/ring set-up IMO.

Agreed.

HvS effectively did a 7:25 BtG time on the standard dampers which suggests they are very well judged for the ring.

DazBlackCSL
05-11-2010, 01:21 AM
Sorry only looked at this thread as I felt bad up the pub thinking id been a little harse on the bloke posting a question and noy bothering to even look at the replies ... And saying so ...





Feel better now .. Will stick with original thoughts now .. Don't bother waisting our time .. Let these people search the forums .. Probably sitting in there pants with the freemans catalogue :whistle:

DazBlackCSL
05-11-2010, 01:25 AM
Oh and he logged on at 9.22 this morning so ... Maybe just shy to say thanks :smokin:

shimmy
05-11-2010, 01:46 AM
Oh and he logged on at 9.22 this morning so ... Maybe just shy to say thanks :smokin:

You Bully:smokin:

glendog74
05-11-2010, 11:34 AM
Oh and he logged on at 9.22 this morning so ... Maybe just shy to say thanks :smokin:

You're gonna scare new members off! :whistle:

I always preferred the BHS catalogue as a young lad :smt055

DuncanR
05-11-2010, 11:49 AM
You're gonna scare new members off! :whistle:

I always preferred the BHS catalogue as a young lad :smt055

Kays for me ! ... the pages where they sold the pregnancy bras ... cos the birds had bigger tits !!!:supz:

glendog74
05-11-2010, 11:52 AM
Kays for me ! ... the pages where they sold the pregnancy bras ... cos the birds had bigger tits !!!:supz:

Fook off grandpa - they didn't have catalogues when you were a kid! :whistle:

azrael
05-11-2010, 01:38 PM
Fook off grandpa - they didn't have catalogues when you were a kid! :whistle:


They did but they were black and white :blalalala:

Bounce
05-11-2010, 05:34 PM
They did but they were black and white :blalalala:I dont mind black or white tits.:-D

shimmy
05-11-2010, 08:20 PM
how did this thread get so long - full of bullshit! :smokin:

glendog74
05-11-2010, 08:34 PM
I dont mind black or white tits.:-D

:thumbs:

how did this thread get so long - full of bullshit! :smokin:

Yours included :hahaha: