View Full Version : Performance friction pads for AP calipers?
cantfind1
15-10-2010, 06:48 PM
I am looking at trying the 01 compound front and rear or possibly the 97 compound in the rear and the 01 up front.
Anyone used these?
Currently using rs29 and they are pretty good on the PF discs up front.
Or I could try rs14 like shimmy but not sure if they are any good on track?
shimmy
15-10-2010, 07:41 PM
I am looking at trying the 01 compound front and rear or possibly the 97 compound in the rear and the 01 up front.
Anyone used these?
Currently using rs29 and they are pretty good on the PF discs up front.
Or I could try rs14 like shimmy but not sure if they are any good on track?
used 01 last year and they are good but no better than RS29 on track
i find Rs14 better than both on track
cantfind1
15-10-2010, 09:36 PM
cheers Shim, so you find the rs14 better than all of them? interesting will look into these.
You say they don t squeal in normal road driving either?
What about rattling in the calipers or is it only the ferodo ds2500 that do that?
shimmy
15-10-2010, 09:58 PM
cheers Shim, so you find the rs14 better than all of them? interesting will look into these.
You say they don t squeal in normal road driving either?
What about rattling in the calipers or is it only the ferodo ds2500 that do that?
None of the pads should rattle in the callipers unless;
1.the pads are the smaller size ones diff code
2. The anti rattle clips are missing
3. The anti rattle clips are in backwards
I've done them all -so has Dunc ;)
I had some squeal with PF01 and RS29 on road but virtually none with RS14, bit it has had slot less road use. The RS14 last 1/4 less but wear to the plate without crumbling like RS29, and they cost 3/4 of RS29
Try them!
cantfind1
15-10-2010, 10:17 PM
None of the pads should rattle in the callipers unless;
1.the pads are the smaller size ones diff code
2. The anti rattle clips are missing
3. The anti rattle clips are in backwards
I've done them all -so has Dunc ;)
I had some squeal with PF01 and RS29 on road but virtually none with RS14, bit it has had slot less road use. The RS14 last 1/4 less but wear to the plate without crumbling like RS29, and they cost 3/4 of RS29
Try them!
Have just been reading up about them, think I will give them a go. Cheapest place to get them? was going to give raceparts a call. My rs29 don t squeal but have been warned that the 01's do. Think the rs14 sound good.
Its more of a clicking than a rattling, its only on the rear and they have the ferodo ds2500 in there that came with the calipers. Only clicks on initial application or if you travel forwards then put in reverse and apply the brakes.
They are crap pads anyway so will take a look when i remove them.
_Nathan_
15-10-2010, 10:23 PM
But the rs14s kill disks...
shimmy
15-10-2010, 10:24 PM
I use ds2500 rears all the time. But there are two sizes. Check the clips are in the right way up
I only use rs14 at the front, if your discs are very new Rs14 may not fit very easy as they are 1mm thicker
Best price is Questmead for Pagid if you get decent discount:
cantfind1
15-10-2010, 10:34 PM
But the rs14s kill disks...
What do you mean they kill discs?? Shimmy you not telling me something? :whistle:
shimmy
15-10-2010, 10:40 PM
I've got proof my discs did exactly if not more miles with RS14 than RS29
_Nathan_
15-10-2010, 10:41 PM
Do a sarch on here for a ap v of disk thread where I posted the friction graphs for the pagid range, the 14 & 15s are much more agressive and aren't endurance pads like the rs29, pay yer money and take yer choice but I can't see how you can create extra friction without extra wear?
shimmy
15-10-2010, 10:43 PM
Do a sarch on here for a ap v of disk thread where I posted the friction graphs for the pagid range, the 14 & 15s are much more agressive and aren't endurance pads like the rs29, pay yer money and take yer choice but I can't see how you can create extra friction without extra wear?
The pads do wear faster;)
_Nathan_
15-10-2010, 10:43 PM
I've got proof my discs did exactly if not more miles with RS14 than RS29
But of disks should do more than ap disks anyway and you were complaining they hadn't lasted?
I can't see how an aggressive sprint pad can be as kind to the disks as an endurance pad, or what is the point of them making the endurance pad?
_Nathan_
15-10-2010, 10:44 PM
The pads do wear faster;)
:thumbs: :banghead:
cantfind1
15-10-2010, 10:53 PM
So I am back to square one then?? haha
Looks like I will have to give the 01 on the front and 97 on the rear compound a go from PF.
shimmy
15-10-2010, 10:59 PM
So I am back to square one then?? haha
Looks like I will have to give the 01 on the front and 97 on the rear compound a go from PF.
if you have rear DS2500, use them and stick some RS29 in the front, PF01 if you prefer
_Nathan_
15-10-2010, 11:02 PM
If you get rid of ds2500 and use something proper on the rear the fronts won't be worked so hard anyway?
shimmy
15-10-2010, 11:06 PM
If you get rid of ds2500 and use something proper on the rear the fronts won't be worked so hard anyway?
the same pad doesnt mean its balanced Nathan, mine works well, and you gotta drive it to balance it:hahaha:
cantfind1
16-10-2010, 01:27 AM
if you have rear DS2500, use them and stick some RS29 in the front, PF01 if you prefer
Have just had this exact setup, and yeah its good but the fronts are overworked as Nath has said need something with a bit more torque in the rear.
Thats why I was thinking of going for the 01 up front and the 97 at the rear, plus the 01 will be better suited to the PF discs up front.
But then I could put RS14 all round but I think this will be too much for the rear and will lock up frequently under brakes.:smt026
AlexGTT
16-10-2010, 12:33 PM
Brake set up and opinion seems to be very wide ranging leading me to the conclusion that it very much depends on your driving style. Try stuff out yourself using the info people give you and test it out. You will come up with your own preference. Just read Titans brake thread (if you can get through it without cutting your wrists) to find that one out. Or (God help us) find Fuch's opinion.:bigcry:
Mine is AP's all round with PF discs up front, std discs rear and RS29's all round. Took some messing around to get there and may not suit everyone but for the way I use my car it's the best set up I've had.
shimmy
16-10-2010, 12:37 PM
I've got a set of RS29 lying around so next track day it will be a morning/afternoon comparison ;)
AlexGTT
16-10-2010, 12:40 PM
I've got a set of RS29 lying around so next track day it will be a morning/afternoon comparison ;)
Get the data box on the job Shim.;)
DuncanR
16-10-2010, 02:20 PM
used 01 last year and they are good but no better than RS29 on track
i find Rs14 better than both on track
As a mate ... I could have done with knowing that 2 weeks ago ! just put RS29's all round !...what do you find better about 'em maestro ?
DuncanR
16-10-2010, 02:26 PM
Mine is AP's all round with PF discs up front, std discs rear and RS29's all round. Took some messing around to get there and may not suit everyone but for the way I use my car it's the best set up I've had.
+ 1 but with AP discs at rear instead of OEM...it does me for the very few times I use my brakes... usually when loading it onto trailer !:whistle:
glendog74
16-10-2010, 02:52 PM
APs + RS29s all round - works a treat but squeals like a pig in town lol http://serve.mysmiley.net/animals/animal0026.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-laughing-smileys.php)
northernjim
16-10-2010, 03:24 PM
As a mate ... I could have done with knowing that 2 weeks ago ! just put RS29's all round !...what do you find better about 'em maestro ?
stop you quicker???:whistle:;)
glendog74
16-10-2010, 08:02 PM
stop you quicker???:whistle:;)
and die quicker...
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