SMG startup mode ?

[outnumbered]

My car (which has the "N" type dashboard gear indicator) always starts up in Automatic mode.

My previous non-CSL SMG car (which had the "0" type dashboard gear indicator) always started up in whatever mode it was in when you turned it off.

What does yours do ?

[_Nathan_]

No need for a poll, all csls start in automatic?

[glendog74]

My car (which has the "N" type dashboard gear indicator) always starts up in Automatic mode.

My previous non-CSL SMG car (which had the "0" type dashboard gear indicator) always started up in whatever mode it was in when you turned it off.

What does yours do ?

I think you've answered the question...

[Dan]

I think you've answered the question...

I HATE to say but I think Rob is right there mate! :hahaha: ;)

Mine has '0' and always starts in Auto mode :)

[glendog74]

Early build CSLs have the '0' displayed when in neutral, later cars have the 'N' display.

I'm an 'N' :thumbs:

[Dan]

Are you on '04' or '54' then Rob? I'm sure my build date under the bonnet says June 2003, yours must be a good few months on from there!

[glendog74]

Are you on '04' or '54' then Rob? I'm sure my build date under the bonnet says June 2003, yours must be a good few months on from there!

Technically, all CSLs should have been '53' plate cars Dan as they were all built between Jul-Dec '03 (although there could have been a few '03' plate cars had they not delayed the release).

The only reason that there are '04', '54' and even '05' cars is that CSLs didn't sell as well as BMW had hoped and some pre-orders were cancelled meaning many cars were kept by dealerships and not registered until the year after release.

FWIW, my car's build date is Dec '03 but is a '04' plate due to not being registered until Aug '04.

Fook - i sound like Shimmy now! :bigcry:

[shane@mbtech]

My car with N in display, started i whatever mode I left it in, iirc it changed dependent on which key I used.

Cars with the earlier(better) software have the 0 rather than the N.

[Dan]

Technically, all CSLs should have been '53' plate cars Dan as they were all built between Jul-Dec '03 (although there could have been a few '03' plate cars had they not delayed the release).

The only reason that there are '04', '54' and even '05' cars is that CSLs didn't sell as well as BMW had hoped and some pre-orders were cancelled meaning many cars were kept by dealerships and not registered until the year after release.

FWIW, my car's build date is Dec '03 but is a '04' plate due to not being registered until Aug '04.

Fook - i sound like Shimmy now! :bigcry:

Cheers Rob, one question though! What does FWIW mean!? Lol

[mattCSLnut]

Cheers Rob, one question though! What does FWIW mean!? Lol

" For What It's Worth " Dan ... Shimmy Talk with his Ma......... no I won't finish that, but it ends with ....train ;) :hahaha:

[Dan]

Ahh it's always the simple ones! :)

[azrael]

My car with N in display, started i whatever mode I left it in, iirc it changed dependent on which key I used.

Cars with the earlier(better) software have the 0 rather than the N.

You can have lots of personal options programmed to the key. I've got a PDF but its too large to upload, and I'm too lazy to use an alternative at the mo :)

[Dan]

Cars with the earlier(better) software have the 0 rather than the N.

I didn't know anything was different between them Shane, why is the earlier stuff better?

[conleth m3]

thought the gearbox settings were all part of the options you can programme onto the key, like if you want the doors to automatically lock as soon as you drive away. this is an important option for me - i live in bradford
conleth

[shane@mbtech]

I didn't know anything was different between them Shane, why is the earlier stuff better?

The newer software gives a less abrupt/slower change, race set-ups use the older software for quicker change. Im sure simpsons programmed old software onto nathans britcar.


thought the gearbox settings were all part of the options you can programme onto the key, like if you want the doors to automatically lock as soon as you drive away. this is an important option for me - i live in bradford
conleth

Yes you are right. My old key stayed in manual mode, the "spare" started it in Auto.

[Dan]

The newer software gives a less abrupt/slower change, race set-ups use the older software for quicker change. Im sure simpsons programmed old software onto nathans britcar.



You learn something new every day! This might be something to do with the dreaded 'clutch slur' then!?

Rob's is a later car and he's never had it in all the miles he's covered whereas mine is an early car and I needed a whole new clutch! :hahaha:

[glendog74]

You learn something new every day! This might be something to do with the dreaded 'clutch slur' then!?

Rob's is a later car and he's never had it in all the miles he's covered whereas mine is an early car and I needed a whole new clutch! :hahaha:

Indeed - it is well known that many early CSLs suffered clutch issues due to the aggresiveness of the SMG program and it's shift speeds. That's what prompted BMW to issue an SMG update in the first place which toned it down a tad. I think it was one of the re-calls on the CSL in it's early life.

I'd rather have a slightly less urgent SMG software and have a clutch that lasts a decent while longer with no slur! :thumbs:

[_Nathan_]

I suspect they all left the factory with the same code as they were all built close together and suspect the Amy updates weren't available until after December 03 when the last one was made?

As said, I have got the very early code on my car, I suspect it is town driving that caused issues.

I had 2 clutches under warranty in the early days and when it went in for the third they replaced the smg ecu with a later one which sorted it, wonder if the ecu was changed mid production run? Maybe coinciding with the switch from 0 to N on the cluster?

[Dan]

Indeed - it is well known that many early CSLs suffered clutch issues due to the aggresiveness of the SMG program and it's shift speeds. That's what prompted BMW to issue an SMG update in the first place which toned it down a tad. I think it was one of the re-calls on the CSL in it's early life.

I'd rather have a slightly less urgent SMG software and have a clutch that lasts a decent while longer with no slur! :thumbs:

Fair enough, I think on your last point you've got to be right, in the real world there will be bugger all difference between them, probably not even enough to notice!

You'll have to take me on a hot lap in your car one day and we can see! ;) :thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

Pretty sure mine always starts in manual shift mode.

[_Nathan_]

Mine remembers shift speed on the key but always starts in auto (so has an s on the right of the display rather than an a)

[Bounce]

I suspect they all left the factory with the same code as they were all built close together and suspect the Amy updates weren't available until after December 03 when the last one was made?

As said, I have got the very early code on my car, I suspect it is town driving that caused issues.

I had 2 clutches under warranty in the early days and when it went in for the third they replaced the smg ecu with a later one which sorted it, wonder if the ecu was changed mid production run? Maybe coinciding with the switch from 0 to N on the cluster?Ive had clutch slurring issues,and mines an N.New clutch and flywheel under warranty.;)

[gpowercsl]

perhaps of interest to u guys

pre-facelift (before 53 reg) m3s have 0, whereas facelift cars have N

[shimmy]

perhaps of interest to u guys

pre-facelift (before 53 reg) m3s have 0, whereas facelift cars have N

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[DuncanR]

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Fook - i sound like Shimmy now! :bigcry: Just be grateful you dont look like him mate !! :hahaha:

[glendog74]

Just be grateful you dont look like him mate !! :hahaha:

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[shimmy]

Just be grateful you dont look like him mate !! :hahaha:



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[Bealo]

Just be grateful you dont look like him mate !! :hahaha:

oooh now that's a horrible thought!