ive got an idea .............

[shimmy]

how about a on track CSL comparison!

we take 6 CSLs, all with different set ups, and 6 owner drivers.

book a trackday (say Bedford) in Spring time next year and we all drive each car, flat out, once in the morning and once in the afternoon for say 6-8 laps, trying to set the best laptimes but either way running Vbox/Perf Box GPS data logging.

And find out which car (maybe driver as well) is the best set up, modded, oem etc etc

You bend it, you mend it, or you donate your CSL to the offended party!

Volunteers here please, but final choices will have to be made based on car/set up/mods (and how annoying, trustworthy they are)

1. Shimmy
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

We should be able to see what everybody feels is the best car and by data, which is the best car:smokin:

[Yanto]

FOOOK OFF YOU NUTTA !

(but I'll come and watch)

[Dan]

Mine is quite stock, might be up for it! :)

[Bealo]

I'm up for it Shimmy....

About time you found out how badly set up my car is and how much of a superior driver i am than you on a level playing field :thumbs:

[karbonkid]

Can you mention it to all the participating suspension manufacturers (Intrax,Nitron,KW,AST etc) and get them to send out their best pit crew Techis. They can help battle it out and tweek our cars while we watch from the line!?

[azrael]

Me but I'm on the iPhone so being lazy

[_Nathan_]

I'll drive them all to ensure a level playing field :thumbs:

[shimmy]

Volunteers here please, but final choices will have to be made based on car/set up/mods (and how annoying, trustworthy they are)
1. Shimmy (OEM, volks g2, 18 cups)
2. Dan
3. Bealo
4. Azrael
5. DuncanR
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

[DuncanR]

im in, may take me a while to trailer all 6 fooked cars back to ya ... but we can cover it !!:hahaha:

[Bealo]

im in, may take me a while to trailer all 6 fooked cars back to ya ... but we can cover it !!:hahaha:

HAHA..... it could get messy..... :whistle:

[Bounce]

HAHA..... it could get messy..... :whistle:And for that reason im out.;)

[shimmy]

Can you mention it to all the participating suspension manufacturers (Intrax,Nitron,KW,AST etc) and get them to send out their best pit crew Techis. They can help battle it out and tweek our cars while we watch from the line!?

got a feeling that'll be a bit too complicated, and there wont be enough time to play with it whilst we are driving with oen morning and one afternoon session each

best bet is to get set ups done before and make sure we know what they are and that they work with the car mods, then get Matt of Tracktoys down to help tyre pressures and odds and sods with adjustable suspension changes (and the odd breakdown!)

we could have NUMBERS

http://www.vinyl-decals.com/images/race-car-decals.gif

[Bealo]

I want number 69 :thumbs:

[shimmy]

I want number 69 :thumbs:

sure you dont want 666666666:hahaha:

[Bounce]

sure you dont want 666666666:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[DuncanR]

I want number 69 :thumbs:

I want 71 !! ... its 69 with your mum and dad watching !!!:thumbs:

[Black CSL Steve]

I want 71 !! ... its 69 with your mum and dad watching !!!:thumbs:

LMAO...............

Steve

[DazBlackCSL]

I'm in and also on iPhone so struggling to post .. Hmmm could that be the beer in the pistenklaus this eve !!

But deffo up for this shimeister as long as we are doing beers after .. Log me on scotty!


how about a on track CSL comparison!

we take 6 CSLs, all with different set ups, and 6 owner drivers.

book a trackday (say Bedford) in Spring time next year and we all drive each car, flat out, once in the morning and once in the afternoon for say 6-8 laps, trying to set the best laptimes but either way running Vbox/Perf Box GPS data logging.

And find out which car (maybe driver as well) is the best set up, modded, oem etc etc

You bend it, you mend it, or you donate your CSL to the offended party!

Volunteers here please, but final choices will have to be made based on car/set up/mods (and how annoying, trustworthy they are)

1. Shimmy
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

We should be able to see what everybody feels is the best car and by data, which is the best car:smokin:

[shimmy]

1. Shimmy (OEM, volks g2, 18 cups)
2. Dan
3. Bealo
4. Azrael
5. DuncanR
6. DazblackCSL
7.
8.
9.
10.



But deffo up for this shimeister as long as we are doing beers after .. Log me on scotty!

I think a TD followed by an evening meal and night out would be a good start to spring 2011

[Bealo]

Now your talking Shrek boy and maybe we could make it the new Snett so were all on an even playing field.

As for the number i'll now have 69999999 lol :thumbs:

[Paul_D]

I think you should do it at the new Snetterton circuit just so I can come and watch without travelling too far.

Sounds like a good laugh. :thumbs:

[shimmy]

I think you should do it at the new Snetterton circuit just so I can come and watch without travelling too far.

Sounds like a good laugh. :thumbs:


Not a bad idea as at least half the circuit is new to everyone.

PaulD, might be good to get one M3 in this!!!!!! as a comparison, my guess is youll be up for it! :smokin:

[Dan]

PaulD, might be good to get one M3 in this!!!!!! as a comparison, my guess is youll be up for it! :smokin:

That's the best idea you've had all week shimster! :thumbs:

[shimmy]

That's the best idea you've had all week shimster! :thumbs:


you have no idea how 'LOW' that idea was in this weeks list :hahaha:;)

[Dan]

you have no idea how 'LOW' that idea was in this weeks list :hahaha:;)

Put it this way, it's way up on mine! :bigcry: ;)

[Paul_D]

Not a bad idea as at least half the circuit is new to everyone.

PaulD, might be good to get one M3 in this!!!!!! as a comparison, my guess is youll be up for it! :smokin:

As much as I like the sound of it, I'm not sure my balls are big enough!

I think I'd be far too nervous pushing someone elses car to try and get a quick lap time. I know I couldn't afford to fix it or replace it if I did have a big accident.

I'd be up for doing the trackday though, and letting someone like yourself have a few laps in mine just so there is some sort of comparison.

[Bealo]

Paul your move than welcome to have a few laps in mine at your own pace to see what your missing in a M3....

Trouble is you'll have it up for sale and be looking for a CSL the next day :thumbs:

[dr.sticky]

I'm up for it, totally stock SG 53 plate with 23k on the clock running P Zero's. Someone else can drive it though due to my previous history. :whistle:

Renault Sport Spider............ Rear ender.

TVR T350T........................ Roundabout, wet and lack of talent.

:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

[Dan]

I'm up for it, totally stock SG 53 plate with 23k on the clock running P Zero's. Someone else can drive it though due to my previous history. :whistle:

Renault Sport Spider............ Rear ender.

TVR T350T........................ Roundabout, wet and lack of talent.

:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

Sweet, better than mine then as mine is a kinda halfway house between standard and modified!

[shimmy]

Sweet, better than mine then as mine is a kinda halfway house between standard and modified!

Dan, dont worry, you are IN, im saving a place for you!:thumbs:

[shimmy]

Evening meal followed by Snetterton tackday

1. Shimmy (OEM, volks g2, 18 cups)
2. dazblackcsl
3. Bealo
4. Azrael
5. DuncanR
6. dr sticky
7. Dan:smokin:
8.
9.
10.

[Dan]

Evening meal followed by Snetterton tackday

1. Shimmy (OEM, volks g2, 18 cups)
2. Dan
3. Bealo
4. Azrael
5. DuncanR
6. dr sticky
7. Dan:smokin:
8. dazblackcsl
9.
10.

No need to put me on twice! :bigcry: and go careful with my new clutch, it'll only just be run in by April! :gayfight: :hahaha:

I'll look forward to driving a properly set up car on Cups! :smokin: ;)

[shane@mbtech]

This will go one of 3 ways.

1.... no comparison as people will not drive others cars at the limit. so pointless test.

2..... people will drive others cars at the limit and beyond, and tears will be plentiful:hahaha:

3.... a combination of 1, and 2. ;)


~I might come along in my angry wasp car, see how it compares to the CSL, looks like the CSL big hitters will be out in force on this one.

[3wheels3]

I may be up for this trackday doo. Just let me know when.

[shimmy]

This will go one of 3 ways.

1.... no comparison as people will not drive others cars at the limit. so pointless test.

2..... people will drive others cars at the limit and beyond, and tears will be plentiful:hahaha:

3.... a combination of 1, and 2. ;)


~I might come along in my angry wasp car, see how it compares to the CSL, looks like the CSL big hitters will be out in force on this one.


oh you are so negative!

[shane@mbtech]

oh you are so negative!

It will end in tears. ;):bigcry: I have a feeling. :whistle:

[Dan]

It will end in tears. ;):bigcry: I have a feeling. :whistle:

What Shimmy crying when my stock CSL better's his time!? :hahaha: ;)

[shimmy]

It will end in tears. ;):bigcry: I have a feeling. :whistle:


lots of things end in tears and lots of things dont, but getting there can be fun either way:thumbs:

[Bealo]

I think it will be a good day out.

I don't think it will end in tears, everyone will respect eachothers cars and drive accordingly so. :thumbs:

[Thorney]

Tell you what, I'll drive each one and take a Cup car as a comparison;)

[Dan]

Tell you what, I'll drive each one and take a Cup car as a comparison;)

So long as we all get a go in the Cup car! ;)

[DazBlackCSL]

Tell you what, I'll drive each one and take a Cup car as a comparison

[Bealo]

So long as we all get a go in the Cup car! ;)

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[DuncanR]

It will end in tears. ;):bigcry: I have a feeling. :whistle:

Not if we all promise to keep the VMAX to under 155 mph Lawsy !! :smokin:

[DuncanR]

Tell you what, I'll drive each one and take a Cup car as a comparison;)

Good idea John .... and at least you of all people can mend um if ya bendum !! :hahaha: ... bags first shout at the recovery work though !:hahaha:

[Rutkowski]

How about me, bringing my modified M3? I'm up for it. :thumbs:

[titan]

I'm well up for a big deployment of CSLs at a trackday and would naturally wish to attend.

Can't see the idea of driving each others cars though. Can certainly see it going wrong ;-)

I was at snetterton yesterday with mine - UB was there with his CS/CSL project - the cars are completely different purely down to the tyres. Whilst he was smoking round on R888s I was constantly having to deal (and fail in some cases) with a very loose rear end. And the car ;-)

Its almost like control tyres are designed for a reason ;-)

[shimmy]

what tyres you on titan (what do you mean by control tyres)?

(as for things going wrong, easy fix as we all have CSLs so no need fopr it to get nasty:thumbs:)


I'm well up for a big deployment of CSLs at a trackday and would naturally wish to attend.

Can't see the idea of driving each others cars though. Can certainly see it going wrong ;-)

I was at snetterton yesterday with mine - UB was there with his CS/CSL project - the cars are completely different purely down to the tyres. Whilst he was smoking round on R888s I was constantly having to deal (and fail in some cases) with a very loose rear end. And the car ;-)

Its almost like control tyres are designed for a reason ;-)

[titan]

Brian went for the european stretched look ;-)

Currently got 225 front and 255 rear conti sports on the CSL wheels.

I have a set of cups in the garage though :smt077

My point about the control tyre is that from what you are saying, you'd like to arrive at a conclusion to what mods work well, but if there is a massive range of tyres being used its an unfair comparison.

Would still be ace to rock up with a bunch of CSLs on a trackday though :)

[shimmy]

Titan

Agree about the difference in Tyres but I think you'll find that we all mainly use Cups as our control tyre which if you keep at the right pressure and don't overheat are the best road Tyres available.

If Mattcslnut hoping in we may have a set of lardy Dunlops to compare with.

Brian went for the european stretched look ;-)

Currently got 225 front and 255 rear conti sports on the CSL wheels.

I have a set of cups in the garage though :smt077

My point about the control tyre is that from what you are saying, you'd like to arrive at a conclusion to what mods work well, but if there is a massive range of tyres being used its an unfair comparison.

Would still be ace to rock up with a bunch of CSLs on a trackday though :)

[shimmy]

Test Cars
1. Shimmy (OEM, intrax ik2, volks g2, 18 cups, -90kg)
2. Dan
3. Bealo
4. Azrael
5. DuncanR
6. DazblackCSL
7. s.mac
8.
9.
10.

Guests
1. Titan
2. 3wheels3
3. Rutkowski
4. Dr Sticky

I think a TD followed/preceeded by an evening meal and night (out would be a good start to spring 2011. We could do Snetterton or alternatively it might be safer at Bedford autodrome depending upon noise (anybody had any problems).

Put your comments, modifications and state if Bedford is ok in principle,:beer:

[s.mac]

I may be up for this depending on dates and venue, but I have a couple of other things I must make priority next year ;)

[dr.sticky]

Here comes spring and I was looking forward to seeing this group test go ahead.

However an offer I can't ( wish I could ) refuse has reared its head and i'll be spending most of this year in Afghanistan :banghead::banghead::banghead:

At least it will keep the miles low :bigcry:

Hope everyone enjoys ;)

[funtime]

Awesome - only just seen this, but well up for it :thumbs:

Just so long as it's not before may! :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Here comes spring and I was looking forward to seeing this group test go ahead.

However an offer I can't ( wish I could ) refuse has reared its head and i'll be spending most of this year in Afghanistan :banghead::banghead::banghead:

At least it will keep the miles low :bigcry:

Hope everyone enjoys ;)



I've heard Bermuda is much better this time of year!

Be safe;)

[shimmy]

Awesome - only just seen this, but well up for it :thumbs:

Just so long as it's not before may! :hahaha:

Not sure who wants to drive your old slag :)

[funtime]

Everyone - it's the only CSL on here that's actually run in :blalalala:

[AlexGTT]

Not sure who wants to drive your old slag :)

To be fair, we've had the best of it on our test drives already.:smokin::hahaha:

[funtime]

To be fair, we've had the best of it on our test drives already.:smokin::hahaha:

I was waiting for you to arrive :hahaha:

Constant torrent of abuse from you two fookers

[AlexGTT]

:smt055

[shimmy]

I was waiting for you to arrive :hahaha:

Constant torrent of abuse from you two fookers

Tbh looks like a good car :thumbs:

[funtime]

Tbh looks like a good car :thumbs:

Thats better, see you do know how to play nice :gayfight:

[azrael]

Here comes spring and I was looking forward to seeing this group test go ahead.

However an offer I can't ( wish I could ) refuse has reared its head and i'll be spending most of this year in Afghanistan :banghead::banghead::banghead:

At least it will keep the miles low :bigcry:

Hope everyone enjoys ;)

Sweet jesus, whatcha gonna be doing out there?

[dr.sticky]

Flying overhead, looking down on the smiling people...................and bombing them :whistle::whistle::whistle:

[dr.sticky]

Just to add, only bombing the ones who decide to kick off first ;)

[glendog74]

Flying overhead, looking down on the smiling people...................and bombing them :whistle::whistle::whistle:

Ah ha, you'll be based at Lossie then flying the Harrier's nemesis?

[dr.sticky]

Ah ha, you'll be based at Lossie then flying the Harrier's nemesis?


Thats the one, at least when I get back i'll have saved enough for a Gruppe M exhaust :whistle:

Looking forward to annoying the whole village :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Thats the one, at least when I get back i'll have saved enough for a Gruppe M exhaust :whistle:


I should think so on all that extra deployment cash lol! :hahaha: