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s.mac
22-09-2010, 09:17 PM
A good day with Northern Jim, a few of the lads from the RS forum (I think) and a few old faces from the ring :supz:

a few offs from others made a quiet track day even quieter :whistle:

I thought my day was going to be short after three outings my front cups were showing a bit of thread on the outside :banghead:
Ive never changed the camber on them, always set at -1.5, I had to give it a try, well Jim did and after a lot of fiddling knocked it out to the -3 setting :thumbs:
after changing the setting the car was not handling well at all :bigcry:
I spoke to some guys who were in track cars and they suggested a new setting for the suspension, I was running hard at the front and a bit softer at the back, we changed it to a couple softer at the front and harder at the back. I could not believe the difference it made :supz: although my cups are now slicks the outside edge was saved and minimal thread showing :whistle: my rears have still got another track day in them ?? I thought rears went 1st ??

anyway some pics

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1390.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_2353.jpg

s.mac
22-09-2010, 09:25 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1541.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1139.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1389.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1390.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_2711.jpg

I forgot to mention, there was a local there who said there had been a one armed demon there a bit back who had an off, he said he had to step in when the guy came off and another guy was going mental with this one armed guy :whistle:
Lawsy :whistle: :thumbs:

Bounce
22-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Good pics Steve,looks like you had a good day.:thumbs::thumbs:

Dan
22-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Glad you boys had a good day! Loving your sunstrip mate, where did you get it from? :smokin:

What suspension you running btw? :)

s.mac
22-09-2010, 09:47 PM
:)Good pics Steve,looks like you had a good day.:thumbs::thumbs:

yes it was mate, a bit worried when the canvas was showing at 10.30 :whistle:

I'm sure Jim will be along soon although the M62 near his end was grid locked due to accidents ....

Glad you boys had a good day! Loving your sunstrip mate, where did you get it from? :smokin:

What suspension you running btw? :)

local guy did the sun strip, Phatm3 (Steve) sorted out the art work :thumbs: it was less than £30 fitted

running AST, really happy with it although I have struggled to get my set up right, but when you get to track there is always someone who can advise, I just need to drop the front end a bit more :)

northernjim
22-09-2010, 10:04 PM
had to go offpiste to get home, to avoid the closed M62:banghead:

but:beer: As Steve says I am now a fully qualified csl mechanic:clown::hahaha:

He looked gutted at 10am looking at the canvas in his tyre, glad to help mate but please stop soaking your tyres in marmalade, they might last a bit longer:hahaha::hahaha:


Fantastic day, fantastic track, tight twisty and really ball-wrenchingly fast too, good curry for lunch too:smokin:

Dan
22-09-2010, 10:06 PM
Sunstrip looks great, not quite as in your face as Rob and Daz's! lol I like slightly more understated! :)

s.mac
22-09-2010, 10:08 PM
glad to help mate :partyman:

but please stop soaking your tyres in marmalade, they might last a bit longer:hahaha::hahaha:


Yeh I forgot to mention the shit I paint on them to make them stickier :gayfight:

I bet the journey was even worse for your mate who was with us :bigcry:

Dan
22-09-2010, 10:10 PM
had to go offpiste to get home, to avoid the closed M62:banghead:

but:beer: As Steve says I am now a fully qualified csl mechanic:clown::hahaha:

He looked gutted at 10am looking at the canvas in his tyre, glad to help mate but please stop soaking your tyres in marmalade, they might last a bit longer:hahaha::hahaha:


Fantastic day, fantastic track, tight twisty and really ball-wrenchingly fast too, good curry for lunch too:smokin:

Where's the pics of the blue bean tin bringing up there rear then mate come on!? :thumbs: :hahaha: ;)

s.mac
22-09-2010, 10:10 PM
Sunstrip looks great, not quite as in your face as Rob and Daz's! lol I like slightly more understated! :)


I was going to go with theirs but was a bit ££ for one and I liked the look of the CSL reg Steve designed :smokin:

Dan
22-09-2010, 10:11 PM
I was going to go with theirs but was a bit ££ for one and I liked the look of the CSL reg Steve designed :smokin:

Me too, can you get another one run off at all mate? :)

northernjim
22-09-2010, 10:13 PM
I bet the journey was even worse for your mate who was with us :bigcry:

yep he's a stockport lad so by coming with us, instead of going cross country like he did on the way there, he was totally fecked:clown::bigcry:

so are you going to try and really get them bald at silverstone?:smokin: or get some new cups:gayfight: especially for it?

s.mac
22-09-2010, 10:16 PM
I'm sure I could get stickers and back strip
It a plain silk Black boarder with transfers on top
he can do a print vinyl but didn't recommend it, although that's what Rob and Daz had.
you would need to fit it, not easy ....
pm me if you want me to ask if he can post

northernjim
22-09-2010, 10:18 PM
Where's the pics of the blue bean tin bringing up there rear then mate come on!? :thumbs: :hahaha: ;)

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::b irdman:


I gave a lift to a lad with a 510bhp escort cosorth- made him feel sick:supz:

then he took me out in his:smokin::smt055:smokin::smt055 amazing machine


fastest thing I've ever been in:thumbs: i need slicks and rear wheel drive too I think:beer:

s.mac
22-09-2010, 10:18 PM
so are you going to try and really get them bald at silverstone?:smokin: or get some new cups:gayfight: especially for it?

spare full set in the garage, I may keep the rears on, will check how bad they are in the cold light of day.

I did tip toe home from the motorway when the rain came down :whistle:

Dan
22-09-2010, 10:24 PM
:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::b irdman:


I gave a lift to a lad with a 510bhp escort cosorth- made him feel sick:supz:

then he took me out in his:smokin::smt055:smokin::smt055 amazing machine


fastest thing I've ever been in:thumbs: i need slicks and rear wheel drive too I think:beer:

Ahh good man, you made me feel sick though! lol :blalalala: ;)

Who's Escos was that then? What you need is RWD full stop, not wrong wheel drive like you've got! :bigcry: :thumbs: :beer:

glendog74
22-09-2010, 10:55 PM
Glad you had a good day boys - weather looked ok!


I thought my day was going to be short after three outings my front cups were showing a bit of thread on the outside :banghead:
Ive never changed the camber on them, always set at -1.5

No wonder running -1.5 degrees (road settings) :hahaha: :hahaha:


after changing the setting the car was not handling well at all :bigcry:
I spoke to some guys who were in track cars and they suggested a new setting for the suspension, I was running hard at the front and a bit softer at the back, we changed it to a couple softer at the front and harder at the back. I could not believe the difference it made :supz:

Check the factory KW Clubsport sticky in the Technical section - always set the rear slightly stiffer than the front ;)


I thought rears went 1st ??

On road yes - on track no. How many track days have you done mate? Noob! :hahaha: :hahaha:

AlexGTT
23-09-2010, 12:39 AM
Glad you had a good day Steve. You need a good amount of camber and a decent suspension set-up to take the Cups to a different level and more importantly, make them last MUCH longer.;) Get it properly set and corner weighted. It'll save you many $$$$ on Cups.

shimmy
23-09-2010, 01:13 AM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1390.jpg



car is looking superb Steve:thumbs:

Bealo
23-09-2010, 08:46 AM
Got to agree with Shimmy Steve your car is looking the tits :thumbs:

Curly
23-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Great pic's luv cadwell:thumbs:

DuncanR
23-09-2010, 11:40 AM
Steve ... if the rears wear out first mate ..... you really aint trying !!:smokin:

s.mac
23-09-2010, 01:49 PM
On road yes - on track no. How many track days have you done mate? Noob! :hahaha: :hahaha:
:birdman:

car is looking superb Steve:thumbs:

Got to agree with Shimmy Steve your car is looking the tits :thumbs:

Thanks :beer:
Steve ... if the rears wear out first mate ..... you really aint trying !!:smokin:
Glad they didnt then :hahaha:

Great pic's luv cadwell:thumbs:
1st time there, enjoyed it with great weather.

A few offs by others with damage, not good for run offs and where there is its bumpy grass, so I was told by the instructors ;)
I kept it on the black stuff :)

AlexGTT
23-09-2010, 01:59 PM
:birdman:





Thanks :beer:

Glad they didnt then :hahaha:


1st time there, enjoyed it with great weather.

A few offs by others with damage, not good for run offs and where there is its bumpy grass, so I was told by the instructors ;)
I kept it on the black stuff :)

Nice one Steve. That's always best.

Did you get your rear pads mate?

s.mac
23-09-2010, 02:20 PM
Did you get your rear pads mate?

yes mate, I sent you a pm :smt017

AlexGTT
23-09-2010, 05:58 PM
Ah, my in box is a bit full. I may have missed it. :thumbs:

northernjim
23-09-2010, 06:09 PM
Where's the pics of the blue bean tin bringing up there rear then mate come on!? :thumbs: :hahaha: ;)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/DSC_1432-1.jpg
if you can see steve is waaaaay behind me:hahaha::blalalala:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/DSC_1373-1.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/DSC_2649-1.jpg
sorry about more polluting ford pics on here, I will get a csl one day tho I promise ( rob:gayfight:)




Who's Escos was that then? What you need is RWD full stop, not wrong wheel drive like you've got! :bigcry: :thumbs: :beer:

some local called steve, who lived 5 miles away, he'd been to cadwell 9 times this year:smokin:

it was by far from concourse tho, dents and scratches everywhere, but jaysus it was quick

northernjim
23-09-2010, 06:11 PM
car is looking superb Steve:thumbs:

he's right Steve, your shonky old bm was looking tip top yesterday:thumbs::thumbs:

sounded :smokin: too:beer:

northernjim
23-09-2010, 06:29 PM
just figured out how to do this....

this is the lap data from my harrys laptimer widget on my phone, I think its bloomin great:smokin:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/cadwelllap-data.jpg

Bealo
23-09-2010, 06:45 PM
Pic's look great Jim, i've got that laptimer and i could never get the bloody thing to work lol

no doubt operator error :banghead:

s.mac
23-09-2010, 07:17 PM
if you can see steve is waaaaay behind me:hahaha::blalalala:

:birdman:

I had either just come out on to track or it was that time I lapped you :hahaha:

does it say what lap times you were doing Jim ?
I cant see that lap time we did when the car was all over being right ....

and 89mph up coppice isn't right ??

glendog74
23-09-2010, 07:49 PM
Pic's look great Jim, i've got that laptimer and i could never get the bloody thing to work lol

no doubt operator error :banghead:

I'm the same mate - it struggles to get a signal through the Climate Comfort windscreen - just like my satnav :bigcry:

glendog74
23-09-2010, 07:54 PM
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/DSC_1373-1.jpg
sorry about more polluting ford pics on here, I will get a csl one day tho I promise ( rob:gayfight:)

Nice to see you hustling the blue shed round a track again mate :whistle:

I'm not speaking to you until you get a CSL though. At least you've finally admitted that you own a 'wrong un' and will put it right by owning a CSL one day :thumbs:

northernjim
23-09-2010, 08:02 PM
Pic's look great Jim, i've got that laptimer and i could never get the bloody thing to work lol

no doubt operator error :banghead:

cheers stu, the laptimer thing is definitely a luck thing tho, I am not sure how I managed to work it, and some of the files are garbage...

:birdman:

I had either just come out on to track or it was that time I lapped you :hahaha:

does it say what lap times you were doing Jim ?
I cant see that lap time we did when the car was all over being right ....

and 89mph up coppice isn't right ??

lol, the only time you went past me was when I'd just come out and was on my warm up.... not that I am competitive you know:whistle:

It has loads of lap times- some of them don't make sense, and when i look at the 'data' the gps isn't accurate ( it does recommend the tom tom upgrade cradle for much better accuracy)

that lap is 1 min 51.88

best lap was 1 min 48.65

I need to export all the laps and spend a bit of time sifting thru them - methinks the tomtom upgrade will be needed for consistently good plots

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/cadwelllap-datajpgcoppiceclose-up.jpg

89mph - I will have let off by then! i was a little erratic up there in the morning- this pic was at 12:10pm I was faster after you'd told me the 'dab and hang on to your balls method'

shane@mbtech
24-09-2010, 11:03 PM
cheers stu, the laptimer thing is definitely a luck thing tho, I am not sure how I managed to work it, and some of the files are garbage...



lol, the only time you went past me was when I'd just come out and was on my warm up.... not that I am competitive you know:whistle:

It has loads of lap times- some of them don't make sense, and when i look at the 'data' the gps isn't accurate ( it does recommend the tom tom upgrade cradle for much better accuracy)

that lap is 1 min 51.88

best lap was 1 min 48.65

I need to export all the laps and spend a bit of time sifting thru them - methinks the tomtom upgrade will be needed for consistently good plots

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/ilikethealps/Cadwell%20Park%20sept%2022%202010/cadwelllap-datajpgcoppiceclose-up.jpg

89mph - I will have let off by then! i was a little erratic up there in the morning- this pic was at 12:10pm I was faster after you'd told me the 'dab and hang on to your balls method'

89mph is about right I reckon Jim for you

I was virtually flat out through there near end of the day, dont know what speed, ill try to dig it out.
But I was definitely flat where yours shows 68, then dab brake for next corner.
1.42 was my fastest lap, first time there.

And Ste who was this local guy, as no one stepped in to calm things, I was quite diplomatic and calmed the guy myself, there were a few onlookers. Was proud actually, must be growing up ;).

Steve and Jim, both cars looking good. :smokin:

Any of you guys up for oulton end of oct, its a sat? Would be good to catch up. :thumbs:

AlexGTT
25-09-2010, 12:43 AM
I might like to do Oulton end of Oct mate. Who's it with?

shane@mbtech
25-09-2010, 12:48 AM
I might like to do Oulton end of Oct mate. Who's it with?

Circuit days mate,

Linky:thumbs: http://www.circuit-days.co.uk/tracks.asp

flatout
25-09-2010, 01:12 AM
Circuit days mate,

Linky:thumbs: http://www.circuit-days.co.uk/tracks.asp

ahh another saturday, very tempting....

note to self..... - don't let any fords past this time :whistle:

northernjim
25-09-2010, 01:28 AM
Steve and Jim, both cars looking good. :smokin:

Any of you guys up for oulton end of oct, its a sat? Would be good to catch up. :thumbs:

cheers mate, I need another go at Cadwell, if only to try and go faster at Coppice, I was entering it at just under a hundred at the end of the day - must try harder!:bigcry:


Oulton my favourite, could be tempted.... passenger laps in the gtr:whistle::supz:

ahh another saturday, very tempting....

note to self..... - don't let any fords past this time :whistle:

:hahaha::hahaha::birdman:

glendog74
25-09-2010, 01:41 AM
Jim - you coming along to the Ring next weekend? I have a spare seat if needs be... :whistle:

s.mac
25-09-2010, 12:06 PM
And Ste who was this local guy, as no one stepped in to calm things, I was quite diplomatic and calmed the guy myself, there were a few onlookers. Was proud actually, must be growing up ;).

a guy in a red escort cosworth ....

Yanto
25-09-2010, 02:23 PM
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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/duds001/DSC_1390.jpg

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Love this pic mate - quality. Car looks ace - see you on the 6th :thumbs:

northernjim
26-09-2010, 02:22 PM
Jim - you coming along to the Ring next weekend? I have a spare seat if needs be... :whistle:

Thats very decent of you Rob, what time will you be coming past Preston to pick me up:thumbs::whistle: