Which Speed Camera Detector?

[Bealo]

After getting caught for speeding i think it is time to invest in some protection against those buggers that hide behind trees etc trying to catch you speeding.

So what can you guys recommend as i haven't got a clue when it comes to speed camera hand held gun detection.

[DazBlackCSL]

After getting caught for speeding i think it is time to invest in some protection against those buggers that hide behind trees etc trying to catch you speeding.

So what can you guys recommend as i haven't got a clue when it comes to speed camera hand held gun detection.


Thought your on a rig :whistle: fook thost c**** get everywhere :hahaha:

[outnumbered]

My car had a laser jammer fitted when I bought it - I removed it as they are basically seriously illegal (unless you can show you have the garage doors to match!).

Now I just use a satnav (Tomtom) with the PocketGPSWorld speed camera database. It has all the common mobile locations & all the fixed cameras. Very useful when out of your home area. Costs about 10-20 quid a year to subscribe.

[Dan]

How can people tell you have a laser jammer? I assume when they can't measure your speed? :bigcry:

Surely by that time you'd be gone?

[s.mac]

i had a laser jammer that was very effective,LC400??(its been a long day!) my mate took it off... but i am thinking of replacing it, Ive seen a few more vans about recently :banghead:
I also have a bell 96r or something, it tells me if speed cameras are switched on which can be fun :whistle:

[outnumbered]

How can people tell you have a laser jammer? I assume when they can't measure your speed? :bigcry:

Surely by that time you'd be gone?

It causes the speed gun to return some sort of error code, which can be enough to make them realise you're jamming them. I think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get the followup, but if caught they can do you for perverting the course of justice, which has way higher penalties than speeding (e.g., a criminal record, and possibly prison). There's at least one documented case where they followed up and the guy was jailed.

Here's some lesser penalties, but still worse than a few points:

http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/local/police_crack_down_on_speed_gun_dodgers_1_1142320

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/6970841.stm

Too risky for me anyway.

[Dan]

It causes the speed gun to return some sort of error code, which can be enough to make them realise you're jamming them. I think you'd have to be pretty unlucky to get the followup, but if caught they can do you for perverting the course of justice, which has way higher penalties than speeding (e.g., a criminal record, and possibly prison). There's at least one documented case where they followed up and the guy was jailed.

Here's some lesser penalties, but still worse than a few points:

http://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/local/police_crack_down_on_speed_gun_dodgers_1_1142320

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/6970841.stm

Too risky for me anyway.

Not good! I'd do it if I had garage doors to match though, not a shadow of a doubt! ;)

[glendog74]

No experience personally but these have good reviews i think:

http://www.road-angel.co.uk/road_angel_professional.asp

Not cheap though.

[Bealo]

cheers guys i will have a look :thumbs:

[DuncanR]

I have had 2 of these www.talex.co.uk (http://www.talex.co.uk)

[jim76]

If travelling on unknown roads I use my TomTom. It's been good alerting me to the fixed Gatso type cameras, and accident blackspot areas. So far so good!!

I had a Road Angel a few years ago. I can't remember which model number, but I recall paying good money for it, I'm sure it was one of the best they did!? Anyway, that thing never flickered a light, or chirped, or warned me of anything the day I was caught doing............well, let's just say breaking the speed limit, ahem!! It also let me down on two other occasions, albeit I was within the speed limit, but the guy in the outside lane passing me was waved down on one occasion, and on the other the cop was definately pointing the speed gun at me!! I binned it after those experiences.

Any of the other devices (except GPS), think about it, have to pick up a laser signal to alert you. So if the speed trap warning device on your dashboard has been "zapped" you've been caught! They have your speed.

I've had too many points over the years now and wouldn't rely on any of them! I have to admit, I drive pretty sensibly these days!! Lol. Save it for the track!!

I have been meaning to price electric garage doors though! A jammer device could be invaluable one day!

[shimmy]

I have been meaning to price electric garage doors though! A jammer device could be invaluable one day!

I had a Lidetek garage door opener for a while:thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

I'll second Tom Tom. I have an XL Live and it is brilliant. As mentioned above, every camera and accident hot spot has been bang on the money and more importantly, excellent pre-warning giving you plenty of time to react. Keep it well up-dated and you can't go wrong.

Random cops hiding in a hedge is a more difficult one. Not sure there's any way around that but they are usually in or just out of a built up area so you can minimise your risk by waiting until your well out of towns before planting it.

[Bealo]

I have had 2 of these www.talex.co.uk (http://www.talex.co.uk)

How do you find the Talex Dunc?????

[Paul_D]

You don't necessarily need garage doors for the jammers.

A 'laser pro park' is a fully functioning front parking sensor. Which 'may' have side effects. ;)

It's still up to you if you fancy the risk though.

The idea is to slow quickly, turn it off, then let them get a reading. Less suspicion then.

[cantfind1]

+1 for Laser pro park they are very effective and completely legal, and work great as front parking sensors!

[Bealo]

I'll have a look at the parking sensor!!!!

Thanks guys :thumbs:

Group buy anyone????

[jim76]

+1 for Laser pro park they are very effective and completely legal, and work great as front parking sensors!

I have front parking sensors on my car (E92 M3 Coupe) which can be switched on whilst driving. I wonder if these would have the desired effect if switched on, as the must send out some sort of signal?????

[Paul_D]

I have front parking sensors on my car (E92 M3 Coupe) which can be switched on whilst driving. I wonder if these would have the desired effect if switched on, as the must send out some sort of signal?????

They need to be a very specific signal mate.

Most 'proper' parking sensors don't use laser at all. If they used laser they'd have clear lenses, rather than being painted body colour.

[Paul_D]

If anyone is interested, here's the post I made on another forum about the installation of mine:

One important thing is to mount the heads level. First however you need to make sure the car is level. My drive has a slight slope on it, so I levelled things up by putting a piece of wood under the rear wheels.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Levelling.jpg

I purchased the dual head system, and the next step is to decide where to mount the heads. On an e46 this is a simple decision.
Either side of the number plate in the top corners of the grill are the perfect positions.
Upon inspection, there wasn't enough depth to mount the heads without hitting the grills. So I needed to cut out small sections of the grill to allow the head through.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Grillcut.jpg

I decided by far the simplest way to mount the head was with sticky pads. I went to Focus and bought a pack on No More Nails pads. These can hold over 2kg each, so the heads should be no problem.
I found that two pads on top of each other at the front and one at the rear made the head sit level horizontally.
Making it point straight ahead is difficult to judge due to the curvature of the bumper. I placed a long box in front of the car to give me something straight to judge it against.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Headfitted.jpg

The cables pass up easily behind the bumper ready to be routed into the car.

In preperation for pulling the cables through, remove the glovebox from the car. This is just a load of screws.

The fusebox at the top right of the engine bay has a plastic tube which passes through the bulkhead. So I ran the cables into the fusebox (by cutting as small piece of rubber out of the cable entry thingy)
The cables were pulled through by taping them to a small stiff piece of wire I fed through.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Wiringpath.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Fusebox.jpg

From inside the car, this is the mess that you will see.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Behindglovebox.jpg

The white plastic enclosure in the centre of the picture is where I put the LPP control box.

The next step was to connect the power to the control box. This was where I actually had a bit of a hold up. It was incredibly difficult to find a switched live wire. Everything in the glovebox area was a permanent live.
After consulting the internet, I found that the loom under the armrest contains a switched live. It's a white/purple wire. You need to unscrew the armrest/centre console and lift it up slightly. This exposes the loom with the connector. I stripped the wire and soldered a cable on, which I then ran to the control box.
For the earth, just tap into any brown wire.

The final stage is the control loom which has the switches and buzzer. I fabicated a little metal box to fit the switches in, which was designed to fit in the ashtray.

Here's everything subtle and as normal:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Ashtrayclosed.jpg

And in James Bond style, a quick press of the ashtray and the switches and LED are exposed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Ashtrayopen.jpg

Now it's 'simply' a case of re-fitting the glovebox (I found this a pain) after making sure everthing is securely plugged in.

Turn the ignition on, and you should have some start up beeps, and then a flashing green LED.

And for the final pic, here's the front of the car. I think it's subtle enough that most people wouldn't even notice the sensor heads.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/PNDale/Front-Finished.jpg

I realise this isn't the greatest write-up in the world, as to be honest I was more worried about getting it fitted than taking pictures.
It might be of some use though, and I should be able to offer advice to anyone else who fits one.

[Bealo]

Nice write up Paul, thankyou :thumbs:

So these are legal??????

I might have to have a go at fitting one of these when i get back to UK.

Wouldn't mind a hand if your free on day????

[Paul_D]

Nice write up Paul, thankyou :thumbs:

So these are legal??????

I might have to have a go at fitting one of these when i get back to UK.

Wouldn't mind a hand if your free on day????

The legality thing is questionable really.

I know people have been prosecuted for 'pure' laser jammers, and for garage door openers when they don't actually have a garage.

I've yet to hear about a case where someone with a parking sensor has been charged and then fought it in court.

The fact that the specific laser frequency is free to use, and the item genuinely performs another function suggests to my (non-legal) brain that a decent lawyer would be able to fight it.


If I'm free I can give you a hand mate. Even if I'm not, I can give you my mobile number so you can ring me for advice on any issues you have whilst you're doing it.

[Bealo]

The legality thing is questionable really.

I know people have been prosecuted for 'pure' laser jammers, and for garage door openers when they don't actually have a garage.

I've yet to hear about a case where someone with a parking sensor has been charged and then fought it in court.

The fact that the specific laser frequency is free to use, and the item genuinely performs another function suggests to my (non-legal) brain that a decent lawyer would be able to fight it.


If I'm free I can give you a hand mate. Even if I'm not, I can give you my mobile number so you can ring me for advice on any issues you have whilst you're doing it.


Thanks mate i'll be in contact when i return in UK and we can have a chat about this, still undecided but i'll pop over and say hello :thumbs:

[shimmy]

Forget it Bealo, had mine for 2years and was worthless

Anyway, at your age you should be driving slower and thinking about getting yourself a Merc estate.

[Bealo]

Forget it Bealo, had mine for 2years and was worthless

Anyway, at your age you should be driving slower and thinking about getting yourself a Merc estate.

At my age!!! you cheeky **** :banghead:

If i need a Merc estate what do you need old man a bloody Hearse :birdman:

[thegingerninja]

Other possiblitiy is to run without a front number plate. This will only protect you from camera vans, but not the cops with a handheld speed gun, since he will read your rear plate as you pass and get his mate on the motorbike to chase you down. The really important bit is to have a brand new plate in the boot of the car so that the day you do get stopped, you can tell them that your Mrs. bought the plate yesterday after she noticed the front plate was missing and you got home so late last night that you didn't get time to fit it.....I'll be fitting it today officer. It may be a year or more until you eventually get stopped.

The camera van men just go through all the photos at the end of the day and then pop them in the post to claim the fine - if they can't read the plate properly (or at all), they just bin them - not worth following it up for a £60 fine.

[Bealo]

Other possiblitiy is to run without a front number plate. This will only protect you from camera vans, but not the cops with a handheld speed gun, since he will read your rear plate as you pass and get his mate on the motorbike to chase you down. The really important bit is to have a brand new plate in the boot of the car so that the day you do get stopped, you can tell them that your Mrs. bought the plate yesterday after she noticed the front plate was missing and you got home so late last night that you didn't get time to fit it.....I'll be fitting it today officer. It may be a year or more until you eventually get stopped.

The camera van men just go through all the photos at the end of the day and then pop them in the post to claim the fine - if they can't read the plate properly (or at all), they just bin them - not worth following it up for a £60 fine.

Thats good to know i'll keep it in mind, thanks :thumbs:

[Dan]

Other possiblitiy is to run without a front number plate. This will only protect you from camera vans, but not the cops with a handheld speed gun, since he will read your rear plate as you pass and get his mate on the motorbike to chase you down. The really important bit is to have a brand new plate in the boot of the car so that the day you do get stopped, you can tell them that your Mrs. bought the plate yesterday after she noticed the front plate was missing and you got home so late last night that you didn't get time to fit it.....I'll be fitting it today officer. It may be a year or more until you eventually get stopped.

The camera van men just go through all the photos at the end of the day and then pop them in the post to claim the fine - if they can't read the plate properly (or at all), they just bin them - not worth following it up for a £60 fine.

Yep, agreed!

The best idea I had was to use the old number plate that was on the front of the car (full size), rough it up a little bit on the tarmac and stick some stones to the back of it, then happily run without it and if/when you do get stopped it's a case of 'sorry, it has just fallen off, I managed to retrieve it look, but will get it sorted ASAP'!

[Bealo]

I like that idea even better :thumbs:

[CT1]

Or you could change a couple of the digits..then a least you've got a plate on the front most coppers would not notice that as they they read the rear one if following ..

Then if you get pulled...sorry officer I didnt notice that I will get it sort stright away!!!!

[Dan]

Or you could change a couple of the digits..then a least you've got a plate on the front most coppers would not notice that as they they read the rear one if following ..

Then if you get pulled...sorry officer I didnt notice that I will get it sort stright away!!!!

Trouble is with that mis-representation of a number plate i.e. False number or italic writing etc is 3 points and £60 fine, NO plate at all is no points and £30 fine! ;)

[shimmy]

, NO plate at all is no points and £30 fine! ;)

or prison if found guilty of perverting the course of justice (thed love you im guessing in the nick Dan!)

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[mattCSLnut]

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Keep it that way :thumbs: pleeeeeeeeez