Recent Leavers.....whats going on ??

[Yanto]

So thats Anis....

Am off the scene for a couple of weeks....then.....Lawsy...

Stu and Daz have got one foot in a super beetle by the sounds of it.....

Whats going on out there folks ?? :bigcry:

[glendog74]

I'm staying fella :bigcry:

[sailorbaz]

I'm not going anywhere, I am not allowed. Well, nowhere forward anyway, might be forced to downsize for a while! :'( lol

[shimmy]

Things move on every year.

I've been around 4 years and each year we get a dozen or so move on (Anis has left every year in each of those 4:) )

[shane@mbtech]

Things move on every year.

I've been around 4 years and each year we get a dozen or so move on (Anis has left every year in each of those 4:) )

Anis the boomerang:clown:

Ill stay, just I wont own a csl:smokin:

[DazBlackCSL]

Had a fezzer fix today so happy for a while, not going pork just yet ... reckon another year ;)

[AlexGTT]

I'm keeping my CSL for the forseeable future. I've decided to reduce the number of UK trackdays because I've found a significant reduction in the quality of driving and behavior on track. Had a few too many scares with other cars almost hitting me!

Instead I'm going to enjoy a few Euro trips, a couple of official TD's at Ring, Spa, etc. I'm going to save some pennies and buy a car for Britcar or something similar. Maybe a Clio Cup for example.

[DazBlackCSL]

I'm keeping my CSL for the forseeable future. I've decided to reduce the number of UK trackdays because I've found a significant reduction in the quality of driving and behavior on track. Had a few too many scares with other cars almost hitting me!

Instead I'm going to enjoy a few Euro trips, a couple of official TD's at Ring, Spa, etc. I'm going to save some pennies and buy a car for Britcar or something similar. Maybe a Clio Cup for example.

Ditto ;-)

[AlexGTT]

Ditto ;-)

:smokin:

[shimmy]

+1 :thumbs:

[rstoughy]

I've found a significant reduction in the quality of driving and behavior on track

So it's just not me that's noticed this then, have seen some serious issues on track within the last 12 months or so :(

[Dan]

So it's just not me that's noticed this then, have seen some serious issues on track within the last 12 months or so :(

I noticed it within the first morning of my first ever trackday! :bigcry: :bigcry:

It won't make me sell the CSL though, I hope to be here for a little while yet :beer:

[mattCSLnut]

I'm keeping my CSL for the forseeable future. I've decided to reduce the number of UK trackdays because I've found a significant reduction in the quality of driving and behavior on track. Had a few too many scares with other cars almost hitting me!

Instead I'm going to enjoy a few Euro trips, a couple of official TD's at Ring, Spa, etc. I'm going to save some pennies and buy a car for Britcar or something similar. Maybe a Clio Cup for example.

Here here :beer: next year I'll probably do a couple of carefully selected UK TDs in March / early April and then the CSL's off to live in Ze Fatherland for the following 6+ months, near a certain one way toll road :whistle:

[Dan]

Here here :beer: next year I'll probably do a couple of carefully selected UK TDs in March / early April and then the CSL's off to live in Ze Fatherland for the following 6+ months, near a certain one way toll road :whistle:

How come your doing that Matt? :smt103 Will it ever make it back to the UK? :(

[Mark CSL]

I'm keeping my CSL for the forseeable future. I've decided to reduce the number of UK trackdays because I've found a significant reduction in the quality of driving and behavior on track. Had a few too many scares with other cars almost hitting me!

Instead I'm going to enjoy a few Euro trips, a couple of official TD's at Ring, Spa, etc. I'm going to save some pennies and buy a car for Britcar or something similar. Maybe a Clio Cup for example.


The best scare was the ring and a black Merc Alex just a shame my camera was not on :bigcry:

[AlexGTT]

The best scare was the ring and a black Merc Alex just a shame my camera was not on :bigcry:

Definately Mark!:bigcry:That was close but I've had worse scares on TD's. Spa in May when the M3 got speared by the Evo.............I was directly in front of the M3 and watched it unfold in my rear view mirror. Oulton Park the other day, a caterfield thing I'd passed decided to try and follow me through Druids..........................and spun nearly collecting my rear bumper! A VX220 that I passed on the same day tried to brake at the same point as me going into the banked hairpin...........................and if I hadn't predicted he'd try that and not moved right under braking he'd have collected me as he sailed down my outside all locked up, heading for the grass!

I could go on but you get the picture. I've had enough.

[shimmy]

I could go on but you get the picture. I've had enough.

i dont think there is a major lowering of standards Alex, but the longer you do trackdays the more incidents you see and also the more we are aware of the surrounding cars.

i think these days on track i notice 100% more in my mirros and around me, probabaly due to experience and better awareness, so i see behind me more cars spinning out or loosing control where before i probably didnt even know they were there.

But whichever way you look at it if you feel less safe on track you probably are.

I def feel like i am nearer the ragged edge on most trackdays and much closer to the next big shunt! (are you just trying to avoid me on track?)

[glendog74]

I could go on but you get the picture. I've had enough.

You should have lapped with the main group at Oulton mate - I never experienced any dodgy moments that day (except my own lack of talent through the chicane :whistle: )

My closest call ever was as car number 3 in that 4 CSL car train when we stumbled accross that VW van 'bumbling' along the track just after Pflanzgarten whilst we were still doing about 100mph... Almost had a little poopy stain in my pants after that episode! :eeek:

Bad things on track will always happen - the trick is having some luck & avoiding it all! :bigcry:

[mattCSLnut]

How come your doing that Matt? :smt103 Will it ever make it back to the UK? :(


Planning to be going to the Ring at least once a month next year :whistle: and I don't fancy putting 900 miles per each return trip in commuter miles from Cambridge to the Ring and back. :bigcry:
I'll get a lift back from a mate in April once she's over there and then commute in my daily Dieseasal from then on :thumbs: or fly out, out of Standstead that's just 20 minutes down the road from me :beer:

[glendog74]

I also agree with Shimmy, I certainly notice more stuff happening around me these days, but that i think is down to me having a little more confidence in myself as well as better car/track knowledge which helps to build additional spare capacity whilst out on track. :smokin:

[AlexGTT]

I def feel like i am nearer the ragged edge on most trackdays and much closer to the next big shunt! (are you just trying to avoid me on track?)

:hahaha: I think we're all trying that Shim.;)

I take your point Shim and it's correct. However, I have absolutely no issue with letting quicker cars past. In fact I do it as soon as possible and in the safest, most deliberate way I can. Pulling well out of the way and not flooring the throttle just to make a point for ego reasons. I like to have plenty of space around me to push the car. So for that reason I'll not tuck in and try to follow an obviously quicker car.

I think less and less people are doing the same and so you find yourself minding your own business, enjoying a good blast on track and several muppets on your tail over the day proceeding to over drive their cars, running wide, spinning, out braking themselves.

[Dan]

Planning to be going to the Ring at least once a month next year :whistle: and I don't fancy putting 900 miles per each return trip in commuter miles from Cambridge to the Ring and back. :bigcry:
I'll get a lift back from a mate in April once she's over there and then commute in my daily Dieseasal from then on :thumbs: or fly out, out of Standstead that's just 20 minutes down the road from me :beer:

That's a lot of Ring laps going once a month!! :thumbs:Even I'd miss the car too much leaving it in another country though! lol :(

[AlexGTT]

You should have lapped with the main group at Oulton mate - I never experienced any dodgy moments that day (except my own lack of talent through the chicane :whistle: )

My closest call ever was as car number 3 in that 4 CSL car train when we stumbled accross that VW van 'bumbling' along the track just after Pflanzgarten whilst we were still doing about 100mph... Almost had a little poopy stain in my pants after that episode! :eeek:

Bad things on track will always happen - the trick is having some luck & avoiding it all! :bigcry:

I do enjoy the car trains with people I know and trust. Shimmy, please note that's CAR TRAIN not MAN TRAIN.:bigcry:
At the Ring we've had plenty of fun lapping with 3 or 4 of us. I seem to miss out on the UK TD one's. You'll have to find me when you all go out together Rob.

[Bealo]

Nothings written in stone for me just yet! and i have to admit i still get a buzz out of driving the CSL.

Perhaps i need to do a couple of TD's and get this bloody GT2 fixation out of my head lol

[mattCSLnut]

... i still get a buzz out of driving the CSL.

Perhaps i need to do a couple of TD's and get this bloody GT2 fixation out of my head lol

Now that's the most sensible thing you've said all week ;) :hahaha: :thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

Nothings written in stone for me just yet! and i have to admit i still get a buzz out of driving the CSL.

Perhaps i need to do a couple of TD's and get this bloody GT2 fixation out of my head lol

You've got to admit a certain amount of satisfaction when a GT3 or RS has to indicate and move right to let your CSL pass. I always think, glad I kept £30k+ in the pocket when I've been tempted by one.:smokin:

[anissut]

Oi, I may have sold it but I'm still around guys. I enjoy spending time on the forum anyway, and was never a prolific poster anyway. It's still be best car I have ever owned.

[Dan]

You've got to admit a certain amount of satisfaction when a GT3 or RS has to indicate and move right to let your CSL pass. I always think, glad I kept £30k+ in the pocket when I've been tempted by one.:smokin:

On the flip side how would you feel if you spent another 30k on top of a CSL on something like a GT2/3 and a CSL passed you on a trackday! :hahaha: :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

Nothings written in stone for me just yet! and i have to admit i still get a buzz out of driving the CSL.

Perhaps i need to do a couple of TD's and get this bloody GT2 fixation out of my head lol


There is no chance Stu, you are past the point of no return as you well know;)

[Bounce]

Ill be around for a few years,;)

[SpineOnABap]

I've recently left the fold but it's been a great seven years!

I was someone who saw the early protos in Top Gear magazine back in 2002 (when I had a 'regular' M3) - made my dealer aware I was VERY interested if they ever did it, and then sat around not knowing if they were ever going to release it.... then did the BMW M Power day at Silverstone in May 2003 where they had a very early Sapphire Black RHD CSL. Remember saying at the time "I'm not gonna bother, it looks cack" :hahaha: but then about two weeks later mid June I got the email from BMW asking if I really wanted one YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! :hahaha: and August 2003 I got it after a technical issue delayed loads of them at Thorne for a couple of weeks. I started doing trackdays in it almost as soon as the 1200 mile service was out of the way, and did god knows how many laps of Oulton (probably a world record :hahaha: ). I've never been so attached to a car as I was with the CSL, but things happened and I got an offer on my car (unexpected) and I was feeling like I wanted a change, so I did it. Traded in for an E92 M3 Alpine White Edition. A different beast in almost every way (some good, some less so) but I'm happy. CSL was the best car I ever owned and I doubt I'll ever own another car for that long. I have many fond memories :smokin:

[Bounce]

Good write up Elliot,you must be one of the longest owners.:thumbs:

[SpineOnABap]

Good write up Elliot,you must be one of the longest owners.:thumbs:

Thanks and yes, I guess I must have been! At least one of my best mates still has a CSL (I converted him too, starting at Donington in 2004 :thumbs: ) so I can still have a blast in one every now & then :)

[TANKSLAPPER]

My first was brand new Oct 2003, PX in 2006 a second one.

I will be soon into my eight year with 90,000 miles over the two CSL'S.:thumbs::thumbs:

[Bealo]

There is no chance Stu, you are past the point of no return as you well know;)

I'm viewing 2 more Friday on the way down for some weekend antic's with Daz... who know's what might happen :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

I'm viewing 2 more Friday on the way down for some weekend antic's with Daz... who know's what might happen :thumbs:

Told you, the force is strong;)

[DazBlackCSL]

I do enjoy the car trains with people I know and trust. Shimmy, please note that's CAR TRAIN not MAN TRAIN.:bigcry:
At the Ring we've had plenty of fun lapping with 3 or 4 of us. I seem to miss out on the UK TD one's. You'll have to find me when you all go out together Rob.

Best laps I've done at the ring was that weekend pushing the taxi round hounding him in a good way .. 3/4 CSL's could of got past but not bothered as having so much fun :smokin:

[AlexGTT]

Best laps I've done at the ring was that weekend pushing the taxi round hounding him in a good way .. 3/4 CSL's could of got past but not bothered as having so much fun :smokin:

Great weekend, good times.:beer::smokin: