M3 GTS @ the RING

[mattCSLnut]

As per title, I spotted the "Orange Monster" this weekend just gone @ the Green Hell :thumbs:
Despite it's Elephant weight issues :whistle: it looked good in metal :supz:

[twiti111]

Ah, that was you!!!!;)

[mattCSLnut]

Ah, that was you!!!!;)

Yep ;) Sorry we didn't get a chance to chat.
Busy, busy with lap solutions :whistle:

[twiti111]

Yep ;) Sorry we didn't get a chance to chat.
Busy, busy with lap solutions :whistle:

Which time you go BTG?????

[alexk]

Someone told me that it was there... number 4 ?

BTW, does it have brembo brakes like the prototype or does it have Fuchsrohre-best-thing-after-drum-brakes-single-piston-brake-solutions

[mattCSLnut]

Someone told me that it was there... number 4 ?

BTW, does it have brembo brakes like the prototype or does it have Fuchsrohre-best-thing-after-drum-brakes-single-piston-brake-solutions
I think this one did have the BBKs... but as we all know it needs them ;) :hahaha: at the collosal 1600 kg :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

Which time you go BTG?????

I don't usually time myself around the Ring but a few of my regular passengers have reported low 8's ;) so more practice required for that elusive sub 8 minute balls out lap :whistle:

[glendog74]

As per title, I spotted the "Orange Monster" this weekend just gone @ the Green Hell :thumbs:
Despite it's Elephant weight issues :whistle: it looked good in metal :supz:

Looks good - and that meccano spoiler even looks ok :thumbs:

I don't usually time myself around the Ring but a few of my regular passengers have reported low 8's ;) so more practice required for that elusive sub 8 minute balls out lap :whistle:

More effort required - thank you please ;)

[twiti111]

The car ist cool and fast believe me, and yes it ist the number 4!
But the tires are not so perfect like the Cups! But also fast!!!!:-)
When are you guys again at the ring???



Looks good - and that meccano spoiler even looks ok :thumbs:



More effort required - thank you please ;)

[mattCSLnut]

More effort required - thank you please ;)

More like " DIET " my CSH ;)
Don't forget I'm doing these times on standard suspension that's done 70K + miles, medium size Brembos @ the front only + a very heavy stock back box :bigcry:
No KWs , no AP racing Monster anchors or Supersprint lightweight exhaust :whistle:
Lightweight solutions require urgently :beer: Thank U please

[glendog74]

Excuses... :whistle: ;)

[glendog74]

When are you guys again at the ring???

I will be there in October 1-3 :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Excuses... :whistle: ;)

I wish they were mate :bigcry:

[glendog74]

Time to start tinkering with the CSL then ;)

[mattCSLnut]

I will be there in October 1-3 :thumbs:

Sounds like quite a few of us will be @ the Ring on these dates :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Time to start tinkering with the CSL then ;)
Absolutely :beer: in time for her relocation to Ze Fazerland, next year :whistle:

[karbonkid]

As per title, I spotted the "Orange Monster" this weekend just gone @ the Green Hell :thumbs:
Despite it's Elephant weight issues :whistle: it looked good in metal :supz:

They've come out great Matt, considering they were taken on your iPhone wannabe ;) Nah, great piece of kit that. I want!

Glad I caught a glimpse of the GTS but was disappointed I couldn't get a closer look at it in the car park.


I don't usually time myself around the Ring but a few of my regular passengers have reported low 8's ;) so more practice required for that elusive sub 8 minute balls out lap :whistle:

You can sure peddle and recon you could reach that sub 8 if certain peps weren't in the way :whistle: ;)

[glendog74]

:thumbs: :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

You can sure peddle and recon you could reach that sub 8 if certain peps weren't in the way :whistle: ;)

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: lets spare the embarrassment for the before mentioned hold up merchant, extraordinaire :gayfight: :whistle:

[XKaLiBaR]

More like " DIET " my CSH ;)
Don't forget I'm doing these times on standard suspension that's done 70K + miles, medium size Brembos @ the front only + a very heavy stock back box :bigcry:
No KWs , no AP racing Monster anchors or Supersprint lightweight exhaust :whistle:
Lightweight solutions require urgently :beer: Thank U please

Dont forget your traction control :gayfight:

[alexk]

Dont forget your traction control :gayfight:

Don't forget your driving manners and pull to the side next time because you are much slower !!!
:banghead:

-1000 by me for your driving this Saturday

[XKaLiBaR]

Don't forget your driving manners and pull to the side next time because you are much slower !!!
:banghead:

-1000 by me for your driving this Saturday

I always did, i think you are talking about the up hill back straightish, that was close, sorry! :( I was on ps2s on saturday, so was a little slow and not that confident. But put the R888s on sunday, and managed an 8:30ish for my 24th/last lap at the ring. I know I can push it more on some of the corners, but my moto all weekend was, "dont crash, dont crash, dont crash" lol

I have to say, what an awesome track, once you know where you are going and you grow some balls to take some of them corners without braking! I dont think I want to do any uk trackdays anymore, just the ring!

Shame about the grey M3 with the big yellow ring logo on the side, crashed just before it started raining on sunday :(

[twiti111]

The grey is a friend of mine! And we where together on track with my csl!!!
But the grey is a normal E46 M3!!!



I always did, i think you are talking about the up hill back straightish, that was close, sorry! :( I was on ps2s on saturday, so was a little slow and not that confident. But put the R888s on sunday, and managed an 8:30ish for my 24th/last lap at the ring. I know I can push it more on some of the corners, but my moto all weekend was, "dont crash, dont crash, dont crash" lol

I have to say, what an awesome track, once you know where you are going and you grow some balls to take some of them corners without braking! I dont think I want to do any uk trackdays anymore, just the ring!

Shame about the grey M3 with the big yellow ring logo on the side, crashed just before it started raining on sunday :(

[mattCSLnut]

Dont forget your traction control :gayfight:


Don't U worry about me ;) :hahaha: just make sure U watch your mirrors like a hawk next time U're out @ the RING and let others (who know where they are going and are who are much faster then U) through, THANK U please :thumbs:

That was some appoling driving you displayed on Saturday, lucking etiquette and common courtesy :clown: Not only did U hold Alex K up but also U held me and Richard (Flatout) too, all on the same lap :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: DOH !!! And there was me, thinking U were a safe pair of hands on Track after seeing some decent Track discipline from U @ Snetterton previously :whistle:

[XKaLiBaR]

The grey is a friend of mine! And we where together on track with my csl!!!
But the grey is a normal E46 M3!!!

Yeah, stripped out with roll cage though. What happened, how did it happen? I saw the back bumper smashed :bigcry:

[XKaLiBaR]

Don't U worry about me ;) :hahaha: just make sure U watch your mirrors like a hawk next time U're out @ the RING and let others (who know where they are going and are who are much faster then U) through, THANK U please :thumbs:

That was some appoling driving you displayed on Saturday, lucking etiquette and common courtesy :clown: Not only did U hold Alex K up but also U held me and Richard (Flatout) too, all on the same lap :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: DOH !!! And there was me, thinking U were a safe pair of hands on Track after seeing some decent Track discipline from U @ Snetterton previously :whistle:

Mate, I had slow cars in front of me, holding me up and they werent letting me pass. Well, richard knows about not letting people pass on track on purpose.....What was his moto "I dont let no one pass me on track". :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

Mate, I had slow cars in front of me, holding me up and they werent letting me pass. Well, richard knows about not letting people pass on track on purpose.....What was his moto "I dont let no one pass me on track". :whistle:

... not when I was behind U though, trough at least 3 bends :banghead: plus U had nothing to your right :whistle: where U should have moved over to :thumbs:
When I eventully muscled my way pass, U didn't bother easing off your throttle either :axe: Red miss was clearly visible from where I was sitting :smt096
I can't speak for everything Richard does but I do know for a fact he lets FASTER :whistle: cars pass @ the Ring. :smt045

[XKaLiBaR]

... not when I was behind U though, trough at least 3 bends :banghead: plus U had nothing to your right :whistle: where U should have moved over to :thumbs:
When I eventully muscled my way pass, U didn't bother easing off your throttle either :axe: Red miss was clearly visible from where I was sitting :smt096
I can't speak for everything Richard does but I do know for a fact he lets FASTER :whistle: cars pass @ the Ring. :smt045

Easy with the smilies :thumbs:I must of eased off the throttle, or else how would you of passed me. Remind me where you passed me again? Wasnt it on the back up hill straight?

Anyways, I had a female passenger in the car, i didnt wanna look too lame :hahaha:

[mattCSLnut]

Easy with the smilies :thumbs:I must of eased off the throttle, or else how would you of passed me. Remind me where you passed me again? Wasnt it on the back up hill straight?

Anyways, I had a female passenger in the car, i didnt wanna look too lame :hahaha:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: ... here come the excuses :gayfight: :gayfight: :gayfight:
I don't remeber where I overtook U, it's not really the point. U were seriously holding everyone up :banghead: that's the point.
Local knowledge is KING ;) and having a faster, real-deal CSL is how I passed U :smokin:
I had a passenger with me too and we were reading the weekend papers while waiting for U to make the right move :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[alexk]

Easy with the smilies :thumbs:I must of eased off the throttle, or else how would you of passed me. Remind me where you passed me again? Wasnt it on the back up hill straight?

Anyways, I had a female passenger in the car, i didnt wanna look too lame :hahaha:

I guess when a female passenger enters your car, common sense leaves.
As a start, your car is no way faster than a CSL, don't forget that.
Also, you didn't ease off AT ALL and you were struggling to go faster.
The back-end of your car was very nervous, which clearly showed that you were driving very nervous trying to 'get away'.
If you are running PS2s, it's understandable but move to the side because we are running semi slicks.
All these seem ok when you are trying to prove something (to yourself or someone else) but when nasty accidents happen it's really bad.

I and many others visit this place to have fun and don't have to prove anything.
I personally go full to the right and slow down when a faster car is coming. In that way he is not annoyed, I am not annoyed (I can continue my lap as soon as he overtakes me) and everybody is happy.

[mattCSLnut]

All these seem ok when you are trying to prove something (to yourself or someone else) but when nasty accidents happen it's really bad.

I and many others visit this place to have fun and don't have to prove anything.
I personally go full to the right and slow down when a faster car is coming. In that way he is not annoyed, I am not annoyed (I can continue my lap as soon as he overtakes me) and everybody is happy.

On a serious note ... very well said Alex :thumbs:
We all go to & around the Ring to have fun, not to piss others off by careless driving :banghead:
It's a seriously serious place that doesn't need any more Armco deformation then it already receives :smt009
If Barris wants to race others then there is the "CSL Cup" where his CSLfied, regular M3 will fit right in. :whistle:
Just remember, the CSL CUP guys are SUPER FAST :supz:

[XKaLiBaR]

As a start, your car is no way faster than a CSL, don't forget that.


Depends on the driver of the CSL. Its hard work driving when you have to use more than 1 arm and 1 leg:thumbs:

Give me a break, it was my first day out at the ring in the dry. I went last year, and it was wet and not fun at all :(

I knew the next day, once i put the semi slicks on, that the difference in handling was night and day. For one thing, i stopped braking for the foxhole and a few other corners that shit me up on the ps2s. If i knew the difference was so massive, i would of let you guys pass me much earlier. Sorry fellaz :beer:

[XKaLiBaR]

On a serious note ... very well said Alex :thumbs:
We all go to & around the Ring to have fun, not to piss others off by careless driving :banghead:
It's a seriously serious place that doesn't need any more Armco deformation then it already receives :smt009
If Barris wants to race others then there is the "CSL Cup" where his CSLfied, regular M3 will fit right in. :whistle:
Just remember, the CSL CUP guys are SUPER FAST :supz:

Mate, dont rub it in, you and richard werent exactly driving sensibly at snetterton. And im not just talking about a small part of the track, im talking about 5 or more laps, when you guys didnt move over for the "faster car" behind you.

[mattCSLnut]

Mate, dont rub it in, you and richard werent exactly driving sensibly at snetterton. And im not just talking about a small part of the track, im talking about 5 or more laps, when you guys didnt move over for the faster car behind you.

There is no need for bull... as far as I remember (it's been quite a while) I let U and every other fast car through as I don't believe in holding anyone up :beer:
If I unknowingly held U up, I apologise :thumbs:I don't believe there is room for two cars @ Russel or into the Esses :whistle:
Strange U are having issues with that now, some few months after the event ??? :whistle:

[XKaLiBaR]

Nothing to do with me, as it wasnt me you were holding up, just a mate who is very quick. It was mainly richard he moaned about, as it was the 2nd time at snetterton he wouldnt move out the way for him, even after being flashed. I remember last year, i flashed him for about 8 laps, and he wouldnt move out the way. I had to wait till his brakes and tyres got hot and he did a cool down lap to pass him.

[mattCSLnut]

Give me a break, it was my first day out at the ring in the dry. I went last year, and it was wet and not fun at all :(

I knew the next day, once i put the semi slicks on, that the difference in handling was night and day. For one thing, i stopped braking for the foxhole and a few other corners that shit me up on the ps2s. If i knew the difference was so massive, i would of let you guys pass me much earlier.

Sorry fellaz :beer:

Driving the Ring in the wet with 300 + BHP rear wheel drive takes some courage and consideration :119: but it's fantastic for car control, something I believe from previous posts, U appreciate :thumbs: Semi slick tyre solution is the way to go @ the Ring :supz: in the dry :supz:
BTW Apology accepted ;) :beer:

[XKaLiBaR]

I dont mind the wet, but not at the ring. I used the TC, and it becomes pointless, and fucks up the brakes. I fully enjoyed Spa last year, when it chucked it down, and you couldnt see the car in front. :thumbs:
Go karting on slicks in the wet, is much more fun :supz:

[mattCSLnut]

Depends on the driver of the CSL. Its hard work driving when you have to use more than 1 arm and 1 leg:thumbs:


Sounds like CSL envy ;) :hahaha: For the record I use both of my arms/hands/legs to drive my CSL :thumbs: left hand for left SMG shift paddle and right hand for right SMG paddle + left foot trail braking and right for GAZ... so what's your real excuse ;) :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

:
Go karting on slicks in the wet, is much more fun :supz:

FOOK that :119: I'd rather slide around the Ring in the wet ;) :hahaha:
Friday just gone @ the Ring was interesting, in the rain & fog :whistle:

[alexk]

Sorry fellaz :beer:
Appreciated and accepted.
:beer:

[Justin]

More like " DIET " my CSH ;)
Don't forget I'm doing these times on standard suspension that's done 70K + miles, medium size Brembos @ the front only + a very heavy stock back box :bigcry:
No KWs , no AP racing Monster anchors or Supersprint lightweight exhaust :whistle:
Lightweight solutions require urgently :beer: Thank U please

I don't want to jump on Gaute's (Fuchsrohre) wagon as I really don't want to open up that can of worms:bigcry: but TBH you really don't need any of this for quick times around the ring. My car is completely standard, except for upgraded pads, fluid and hoses and I seem to manage ok.

How many laps have you done Matt?

[Justin]

Easy with the smilies :thumbs:I must of eased off the throttle, or else how would you of passed me. Remind me where you passed me again? Wasnt it on the back up hill straight?

Anyways, I had a female passenger in the car, i didnt wanna look too lame :hahaha:

Is you're reg ENVY, or something like that? If so, I passed you on the "back up hill straight" section on Sunday, maybe you're thinking of this. From memory you moved over pretty sharpish, had to brake and wait a few seconds for you but it's par for the course on tourist days. There can be such a speed differential towards the top end up there between the faster and slower stuff, as it should be foot to the floor for 20-25 seconds, that things like this will happen.

[mattCSLnut]

I don't want to jump on Gaute's (Fuchsrohre) wagon as I really don't want to open up that can of worms:bigcry: but TBH you really don't need any of this for quick times around the ring. My car is completely standard, except for upgraded pads, fluid and hoses and I seem to manage ok.

How many laps have you done Matt?

Hi mate. Good to see U lapping it up @ the Ring again, this weekend gone :thumbs: I hear what U're saying and I think I'm doing OK with a relatively standard CSL but it's really HARD work to get it under the elusive 8 minute lap time :bigcry: as it is, with traffic and all.
I did 32 laps this weekend... 89 laps this year so far in the CSL (so the Jahreskarte is all paid off for 2010) :thumbs: and in total in excess of 500 :whistle: since I started going to the Ring in 2004 :thumbs: How about U ?

[Justin]

Hi mate. Good to see U lapping it up @ the Ring again, this weekend gone :thumbs: I hear what U're saying and I think I'm doing OK with a relatively standard CSL but it's really HARD work to get it under the elusive 8 minute lap time :bigcry: as it is, with traffic and all.
I did 32 laps this weekend... 89 laps this year in the CSL so the Jahreskarte is all paid off for 2010 :thumbs: and in total in excess of 500 :whistle: since I started going to the Ring in 2004 :thumbs: How about U ?

Pretty much the same as yourself. Starting going in 2004, this is the third year I've stored the car over there for the season, and probably done about 400 laps in total.
Really enjoyed this weekend, thought it was one of the better one's of the year. Track wasn't too busy with hardly any closures, and the weather was perfect for the tyres, if not for the sun tan;).
Was very happy that I hadn't been passed once the whole weekend by another car (while on a quick lap)...until the last lap on Sunday evening when Nathan in his orange GT3RS put me in my place:birdman:

[mattCSLnut]

Pretty much the same as yourself. Starting going in 2004, this is the third year I've stored the car over there for the season, and probably done about 400 laps in total.
Really enjoyed this weekend, thought it was one of the better one's of the year. Track wasn't too busy with hardly any closures, and the weather was perfect for the tyres, if not for the sun tan;).
Was very happy that I hadn't been passed once the whole weekend by another car (while on a quick lap)...until the last lap on Sunday evening when Nathan in his orange GT3RS put me in my place:birdman:

:thumbs: Great stuff . I'm emigrating my CSL to Ze Fazerland next year, for 2011 once a month CSL Ring solutions :beer:
Yep the track temperature were PERFECT :thumbs: for lap solution and I didn't see the oil gauge go much beyond the 100 mark + the coolant temp gauge stayed exactly in the middle (as it always does) The 15 -18 deg C temperatures were very kind to brakes and tyres too. My DUNLOP DZ02 still have about a 1mm left, despite their third Ring outing this year at the weekend :thumbs: I managed to pass a few Porkers this weekend, even a couple of slow MK1 GT2 - GT3 ;) :hahaha: but got well clear of a RACE speck white GT3 RSR (or something) that literarily flew past me on the approach to Schwedenkreuz while I was touching near 150 MPH. He must have been on a 7:30 minute lap :119:
Any idea of your best lap times ? :whistle:

[glendog74]

+325 laps in less than 24 months :whistle: :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

+325 laps in less than 24 months :whistle: :thumbs:

It's just about doable, especially if the CSL lives at the Ring :whistle:

[glendog74]

It's just about doable, especially if the CSL lives at the Ring :whistle:

It's already done - over 10 trips! ;)

[XKaLiBaR]

I have to say, I absolutely loved every bit of the weekend. It was such an awesome experience. I really enjoyed my last 3 laps, when I got tuition from a crazy german man in his z3 3 litre 230bhp car. I followed him round, and he showed me some great lines. His best lap was 8:20, and I can see how, after he took me round in it. He really didn't brake much and was able to carry the speed round bends.

I really want to go back, but it will be difficult for the next year or 2 :( I think I'll do a track day next time though, as I can't stand the bikers.

[mattCSLnut]

It's already done - over 10 trips! ;)
:thumbs: So U're averaging 32 laps per long weekend... that's pretty good going :thumbs:
BTW I like your new Avatar pic ;) it's less disturbing then the last one :hahaha:

[glendog74]

I think I'll do a track day next time though, as I can't stand the bikers.

That's what i'll be doing from now on - 2 track days with some additional TF whilst i'm there - about the same cost as an annual Jahreskarte and a fair bit safer :thumbs:

[glendog74]

:thumbs: So U're averaging 32 laps per long weekend... that's pretty good going :thumbs:
BTW I like your new Avatar pic ;) it's less disturbing then the last one :hahaha:

Pretty much - my best was 26 laps in just one day and around 55 over a 3 day weekend; worst was 13 laps over a 3 days visit...

Makka Pakka! :supz:

[mattCSLnut]

I have to say, I absolutely loved every bit of the weekend. It was such an awesome experience. I really enjoyed my last 3 laps, when I got tuition from a crazy german man in his z3 3 litre 230bhp car. I followed him round, and he showed me some great lines. His best lap was 8:20, and I can see how, after he took me round in it. He really didn't brake much and was able to carry the speed round bends.

I really want to go back, but it will be difficult for the next year or 2 :( I think I'll do a track day next time though, as I can't stand the bikers.

Yep :thumbs: that chap was good but I think it was a Z4 3.0 si light blue cabrio, no ? :whistle:

[XKaLiBaR]

Yep :thumbs: that chap was good but I think it was a Z4 3.0 si light blue cabrio, no ? :whistle:

Na, it was a z3 coupe. I think his name was Yan or something, and he was blonde and longish hair it had dunlops, kw v3 and pole positions. His son was in a 335i 370bhp. His there every week, if you see him, get a passenger lap with him. Really awesome for a car that's over 100bhp less than ours.

[_Nathan_]

Matt - 1mm left on your dunlops - you want to be careful, if you are involved in a crash the police could fuck you for having illegal tyres...

[flatout]

Nothing to do with me, as it wasnt me you were holding up, just a mate who is very quick. It was mainly richard he moaned about, as it was the 2nd time at snetterton he wouldnt move out the way for him, even after being flashed. I remember last year, i flashed him for about 8 laps, and he wouldnt move out the way. I had to wait till his brakes and tyres got hot and he did a cool down lap to pass him.

That's a load of bull, from memory i recall it was hardly a lap- 8 laps to keep someone behind is too long unless the difference is marginal, i recall you closed up just before the back straight so i thought your car was much quicker all round so pulled to the inside of the straight and carried on - only to pull away. I lifted aboutt 200 metres before the braking point to let you go through as you were much quicker through the technical section :supz:.

As for your mate, i can't comment as i don't know who you are referring to. For the record please send them my apologies...

With regards to the ring, I guess you were surprised me closing on you like that... - I was too considering you were much quicker at snett. I suppose the ps2's you had on tell some of the story as i expected you to be miles quicker. All that aside, i enjoyed our tussle :thumbs: just got slightly prolonged as I was trying to follow Matt to learn the lines ala you and below..

Anyway no hard feelings :beer::beer::beer::beer:

I have to say, I absolutely loved every bit of the weekend. It was such an awesome experience. I really enjoyed my last 3 laps, when I got tuition from a crazy german man in his z3 3 litre 230bhp car. I followed him round, and he showed me some great lines. His best lap was 8:20, and I can see how, after he took me round in it. He really didn't brake much and was able to carry the speed round bends.

I really want to go back, but it will be difficult for the next year or 2 :( I think I'll do a track day next time though, as I can't stand the bikers. Best way to learn is to follow someone who knows their way round. I too had been braking at lots of places i shouldn't be until this w.e

I'm back in Oct, so hopefully see you there for round 2 with your semi slicks...


Bring on Oct 2010......right where's my ring guide :drool::drool:

[mattCSLnut]

Matt - 1mm left on your dunlops - you want to be careful, if you are involved in a crash the police could fuck you for having illegal tyres...
I know ;) It's a public road and all that so normal road laws apply :thumbs:
Worry not ;) I started on about 2 mm on the inside edge and they still have about 3mm on the outside edge but for 100% sure that was their last outing @ the Ring. I'll finish them off at one of the up comming UK Track Days and then DZ03 here we come :thumbs:

[_Nathan_]

Didn't want you in a German prison being Herman's new girlfriend on B wing :)

[mattCSLnut]

Didn't want you in a German prison being Herman's new girlfriend on B wing :)


... or boyfriend for that matter :gayfight: It'll make Glendog jealous ;) :hahaha:

[AlexGTT]

Didn't want you in a German prison being Herman's new girlfriend on B wing :)

Most of us wouldn't mind that! :hahaha: Might give us a rest from the picture whoring, ;););););););), eh Matt.:blalalala::hahaha:;)
I also think he'd really enjoy it. :hahaha:

[XKaLiBaR]

That's a load of bull, from memory i recall it was hardly a lap- 8 laps to keep someone behind is too long unless the difference is marginal, i recall you closed up just before the back straight so i thought your car was much quicker all round so pulled to the inside of the straight and carried on - only to pull away. I lifted aboutt 200 metres before the braking point to let you go through as you were much quicker through the technical section :supz:.

As for your mate, i can't comment as i don't know who you are referring to. For the record please send them my apologies...

With regards to the ring, I guess you were surprised me closing on you like that... - I was too considering you were much quicker at snett. I suppose the ps2's you had on tell some of the story as i expected you to be miles quicker. All that aside, i enjoyed our tussle :thumbs: just got slightly prolonged as I was trying to follow Matt to learn the lines ala you and below..

Anyway no hard feelings :beer::beer::beer::beer:

Best way to learn is to follow someone who knows their way round. I too had been braking at lots of places i shouldn't be until this w.e

I'm back in Oct, so hopefully see you there for round 2 with your semi slicks...


Bring on Oct 2010......right where's my ring guide :drool::drool:

I was referring to last year. I have a cool video of us at snett from april, il upload it for you. :thumbs:

PS2s were proper crap. They were like 2 days old, which made it even worst. More tread makes it less rigid i think. Since you were noob like me, we could of had a good run together, if we met on the sunday :(

Baby due in october 10-10-10. So no ring for me for awhile. :bigcry:

I do like your car. All the mods you have done are perfect. :thumbs:

[twiti111]

Na, it was a z3 coupe. I think his name was Yan or something, and he was blonde and longish hair it had dunlops, kw v3 and pole positions. His son was in a 335i 370bhp. His there every week, if you see him, get a passenger lap with him. Really awesome for a car that's over 100bhp less than ours.

I know them too, but they are not so fast on the ring!
Give me a sign when one of you guys coming and we make a round there!!!!:supz:

[Frozenspeed]

They were doing some testing with Ring-Racing.

http://images.frozenspeed.com/misc/m3gts.jpg

[DazBlackCSL]

They were doing some testing with Ring-Racing.

http://images.frozenspeed.com/misc/m3gts.jpg

Knew you would have a decent shot of one ;) :thumbs:

J we are out with girls next friday 6th, staying till 9th when we head home.

Will drop you a text also but be good to hook up and have some dinner one eve if you two are free ;-)

D

[Frozenspeed]

Yes sounds like a plan, is Rajan coming too?

[DazBlackCSL]

Yes sounds like a plan, is Rajan coming too?

He's bringing the carpet :smokin:

[DazBlackCSL]

Oh and just read the rest of this thread back :hahaha:

Be careful boys it's NOT a race when were doing the ring, and there are NO medals for being the quickest, or prizes for doing the most laps :whistle:

Be safe be careful and leave the ego's in the hotel room.

Go and do the CSL cup if your wrapped up in time's, your on slicks, it's marshalled, there are medals and your times matter ! it's an awesome experience, and one ive missed this year :thumbs:

:smt055 Love you all still !

[mattCSLnut]

Oh and just read the rest of this thread back :hahaha:

Be careful boys it's NOT a race when were doing the ring, and there are NO medals for being the quickest, or prizes for doing the most laps :whistle:

Be safe be careful and leave the ego's in the hotel room.

Go and do the CSL cup if your wrapped up in time's, your on slicks, it's marshalled, there are medals and your times matter ! it's an awesome experience, and one ive missed this year :thumbs:

:smt055 Love you all still !
You're beginning to sound like me ;) :hahaha: I agree on all points :thumbs:

On a serious note ... very well said Alex :thumbs:
We all go to & around the Ring to have fun, not to piss others off by careless driving :banghead:
It's a seriously serious place that doesn't need any more Armco deformation then it already receives :smt009
If Barris wants to race others then there is the "CSL Cup" where his CSLfied, regular M3 will fit right in. :whistle:
Just remember, the CSL CUP guys are SUPER FAST :supz:

:smt055 U back, U big homo :gayfight: ;)

[DazBlackCSL]

Yeah just been busy ( yes I have been busy ) :hahaha:

Really missed doing the CSL Cup this year like nothing ive missed ever, and it has given me a completely different perspective on doing the ring on TF especially as it's getting worse.

Want to save my money NOT have someone smash the CSL up and either do the VLN next year or a few races in the UK.

At least a track day is marshalled monitored and has rules to stop the dick heads ruining your day.


First stage or saving for racing again next year is im selling the Rays if anyone wants them ?

Will post up in for sale later, but there are more than enough pics on here with them on :hahaha:

Details here:

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/products/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=33&products_id=4410&osCsid=51d49eae994e7f0e1349eb9a4c323d20

£1500 inc Del no offers there mint and in Matt Gunmetal ( Finish was 350 extra )

[mattCSLnut]

Yeah just been busy ( yes I have been busy ) :hahaha:

Really missed doing the CSL Cup this year like nothing ive missed ever, and it has given me a completely different perspective on doing the ring on TF especially as it's getting worse.

Want to save my money NOT have someone smash the CSL up and either do the VLN next year or a few races in the UK.

At least a track day is marshalled monitored and has rules to stop the dick heads ruining your day.


First stage or saving for racing again next year is im selling the Rays if anyone wants them ?

Will post up in for sale later, but there are more than enough pics on here with them on :hahaha:

Details here:

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/products/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=33&products_id=4410&osCsid=51d49eae994e7f0e1349eb9a4c323d20

£1500 inc Del no offers there mint and in Matt Gunmetal ( Finish was 350 extra )

U must be serious about racing next year if U're thinking of letting the RAYS go :bigcry:
... now if they were still Bronze and had some CUPs on :drool: :drool: :drool:
I vote for VLN :supz::supz::supz: count me in for VLN RING Team support :beer:

[Frozenspeed]

Want to save my money and either do the VLN next year or a few races in the UK.
VLN it is then, they are expecting you.

http://www.frozenspeed.com/gallery_event/vln_10_race1/V01_0343R.jpg

[DazBlackCSL]

VLN it is then, they are expecting you.

http://www.frozenspeed.com/gallery_event/vln_10_race1/V01_0343R.jpg


lol !! I know been chatting with mitch about sharing a car, and it fill's me with fear :119:

But a good fear ... :smokin:

[alexk]

lol !! I know been chatting with mitch about sharing a car, and it fill's me with fear :119:

But a good fear ... :smokin:

I want to race as well, but in 5 years time (when I will have a 2nd caged CSL)
:thumbs:

I wish you all the best mate, it must fascinating !

[DazBlackCSL]

I want to race as well, but in 5 years time (when I will have a 2nd caged CSL)
:thumbs:

I wish you all the best mate, it must fascinating !

Superb :thumbs:

Yep fingers crossed ;)

[XKaLiBaR]

£1500 inc Del no offers there mint and in Matt Gunmetal ( Finish was 350 extra )

Thats a bit pricey. My mate paid £1200 from thorney, brand new for 19s. They were the other style of Rays though, so i dont know if that makes a difference.

[DazBlackCSL]

Thats a bit pricey. My mate paid £1200 from thorney, brand new for 19s. They were the other style of Rays though, so i dont know if that makes a difference.

Check the link !

[XKaLiBaR]

I did. :thumbs:

[DazBlackCSL]

I did. :thumbs:

OK HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT IN CAPS !!:hahaha:

£2162.00 + VAT FOR THE NEW ONES ..

PAID £350 FOR THE DIFFERENT MATT GUNMETAL FINISH

I WANT £1500 INC VAT FOR A UNMARKED , MINT SET OF RAYS

TWIT !
:thumbs:

Anyway if you not interested dont buy them .. im not forcing you !

And they wont help look in your mirrors either :whistle:

Not that I have had a problem in that dept with you of course ;)

[DazBlackCSL]

But if you carry on this way I may have a problem with you :smokin:

[XKaLiBaR]

Sorry, I said that wrong. He got a discount i believe. Cant believe how much they are on that site! Your price is good. £100 more than new CSLs, but lighter and wider. hmmmmm tempting!

[DazBlackCSL]

Thats a bit pricey. My mate paid £1200 from thorney, brand new for 19s.
:whistle:

[glendog74]

Sorry, I said that wrong. He got a discount i believe. Cant believe how much they are on that site! Your price is good. £100 more than new CSLs, but lighter and wider. hmmmmm tempting!

Are you on a mission to be annoy as many people as possible in just one week? :whistle: :hahaha:

Not sure where you can get new CSL wheels for £1400 as they currently retail in excess of £1650 at BMW.

I think Dazza's wheels are pitched at the right price - and i know how often he cleans them to keep them looking so spotless! :gayfight:

[DazBlackCSL]

Are you on a mission to be annoy as many people as possible in just one week? :whistle: :hahaha:

Not sure where you can get new CSL wheels for £1400 as they currently retail in excess of £1650 at BMW.

I think Dazza's wheels are pitched at the right price - and i know how often he cleans them to keep them looking so spotless! :gayfight:

homo ;-)

Purchased an umper lumper to look after them !!

[alexk]

Sorry, I said that wrong. He got a discount i believe. Cant believe how much they are on that site! Your price is good. £100 more than new CSLs, but lighter and wider. hmmmmm tempting!

So your buddy bought them 1200 from 2021 ???
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/products/product_info.php?cPath=1329_1637_1341_1698&products_id=4414

I don't believe that !
And if it's the case, I want a set too with 1200 (- UK VAT -> 1000).

BTW, are you the attorney of the forum and immediately popping out to 'warn' the members not to buy Darren's expensive wheels ?
:ban:

[twiti111]

Knew you would have a decent shot of one ;) :thumbs:

J we are out with girls next friday 6th, staying till 9th when we head home.

Will drop you a text also but be good to hook up and have some dinner one eve if you two are free ;-)

D

You have more pictures from me?????

[TANKSLAPPER]

MTorque.....?


is back !

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[XKaLiBaR]

Not sure where you can get new CSL wheels for £1400 as they currently retail in excess of £1650 at BMW.


I get good discount from bmw. Thats what i was quoted in May/June when i enquired inc vat.

I did apologise and explain that i was referring to price on the site. And i also did say it wasnt for your particular wheels i was referring to, but for the other rays.

[twiti111]

They were doing some testing with Ring-Racing.

http://images.frozenspeed.com/misc/m3gts.jpg

Hey you have some more pictures for me???

[Frozenspeed]

Hey you have some more pictures for me???
Are you driving this GTS?

[twiti111]

Are you driving this GTS?

Yes! You see the numer blade, is nearly the same like my csl!

[XKaLiBaR]

Yes! You see the numer blade, is nearly the same like my csl!

Awesome, whats it like? :supz:

[DazBlackCSL]

You have more pictures from me?????

You need help I think or a Ban very shortly :smokin:


I have no pics of you .. only naked ones from the internet that arrived in the post http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-017.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Ashamed-Smileys/)

[twiti111]

You need help I think or a Ban very shortly :smokin:


I have no pics of you .. only naked ones from the internet that arrived in the post http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-017.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Ashamed-Smileys/)


Why a ban????:ban:

[twiti111]

You need help I think or a Ban very shortly :smokin:


I have no pics of you .. only naked ones from the internet that arrived in the post http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-017.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Ashamed-Smileys/)

The pictures where you bent over???:birdman:

[northernjim]

There's been a lot of dick swinging in here tonight boys!

[glendog74]

There's been a lot of dick swinging in here tonight boys!

So that's what's attracted you to this thread...! :gayfight:

[mattCSLnut]

Hey you have some more pictures for me???

So Marcus, since you're a very lucky chap who has both, an M3 CSL :drool: as well as the NEW M3 GTS, how do U compare the two @ the Ring ? :smt112
What are your first impressions ?

[northernjim]

So that's what's attracted you to this thread...! :gayfight:

watch it short stuff you're up on my turf next weekend:blalalala:
















we can do some dick swinging then you fine figure of a man you:clown:

[glendog74]

LoL :smt057

[Dan]

Blimey, what a thread! Sounds like you all had fun one way or another!

Serious question then following on from Justin really, I'm sure is was T$ that said a standard CSL is quoted at 7:50 around the Ring, I ask, how the fook!?

[shimmy]

Blimey, what a thread! Sounds like you all had fun one way or another!

Serious question then following on from Justin really, I'm sure is was T$ that said a standard CSL is quoted at 7:50 around the Ring, I ask, how the fook!?

official standard CSL time for full ring (not BTG) is 7m 50s

ive never been over 8 minutes :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

ive never been over 8 minutes :smokin:

Correction... you've never been... :whistle:

[glendog74]

ive never been over 8 minutes :smokin:

At Snetterton...

[glendog74]

Serious question then following on from Justin really, I'm sure is was T$ that said a standard CSL is quoted at 7:50 around the Ring, I ask, how the fook!?

Done on a closed test session and driven by a professional driver who knows the Ring very well i would imagine. :whistle:

A full lap adds around 20 seconds or so to the equivalent BTG time due to the extra bit of straight. That in theory would make the official CSL time of 7:50 a 7:30 BTG (approx). A few of us 'non-professional' drivers on here manage (albeit with better non-standard brakes) around the 8 minute BTG lap mark so i don't understand how you seem so surprised at that full lap time of 7:50 using a professional driver - it's only 30 seconds faster after all, over a distance of 22.8km. ;)

[Dan]

Done on a closed test session and driven by a professional driver who knows the Ring very well i would imagine. :whistle:

A full lap adds around 20 seconds or so to the equivalent BTG time due to the extra bit of straight. That in theory would make the official CSL time of 7:50 a 7:30 BTG (approx). A few of us 'non-professional' drivers on here manage (albeit with better non-standard brakes) around the 8 minute BTG lap mark so i don't understand how you seem so surprised at that full lap time of 7:50 using a professional driver - it's only 30 seconds faster after all, over a distance of 22.8km. ;)

I was suprised as I knew barely any of the above information barring the time, also didn't know it was a full lap as you all quote BTG :blalalala:

Never the less, I'd like another go at it one day soon, just need some more cups now! :hahaha:

[sailorbaz]

Ooooft, this took some catching up there. Not having internet in my new home is proving a nightmare, but now I am back at sea, it should be ok to keep up-to-date with proceedings, lol

[DuncanR]

ive never been over 8 minutes :smokin:
at sex !!

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by shimmy http://www.cslregister.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?p=62488#post62488)
ive never been over 8 minutes :smokin:

at sex !!

That's a little bit optimistic as well! :whistle::hahaha: