Prices still look firm...

[Yanto]

Dont keep on eye on prices much, but couldnt help noticing this one...Looks like sold within 3 days of advertising...

Not bad for an 03 / 62K miles (assuming owner got close to asking price)...

Anis - makes yours look underpriced mate :thumbs:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1804810.htm

[anissut]

I want mine to be realistic and a decent deal to any prospective buyer. There is no movement on my price. If it goes, then so be it, if it doesn't then am absolutely fine with that as well. For the first time in my life, I don't need to sell a car which is a nice feeling. :thumbs:

[3wheels3]

Looks like it's got acne on the back bumper. :hahaha:

[mole]

Isn't that likely to be a 53 car, with an 03 cherished plate? Still, not a bad price for that mileage :thumbs:

[Bealo]

I think thats a really good price. :thumbs: I didn't think the prices were that good at the minute.

[shane@mbtech]

One of my mates and my other mates Dad are looking at CSL's at the minute and the prices have definitely come up. Mine with 47k for £22,000 was a fooking bargain:smokin:.

[daniel]

One of my mates and my other mates Dad are looking at CSL's at the minute and the prices have definitely come up. Mine with 47k for £22,000 was a fooking bargain:smokin:.


Tell them to save their money and buy this.:thumbs:

[sailorbaz]

I noticed that car before, the £25K one. Boy done well to get that for it, so it's all good.

[Bounce]

Thats a good price,hope they keep going up.:smokin:

[sailorbaz]

After being idle for a while due to a house move and no internet in the new place yet, I decided to do some catching up.
Cant believe what BMW are asking for the 2 CSL's they're selling at the moment. Something like £31.5K and £33K for another, both about 40K miles too.

It's all good, not that we're bothered though, woohoooo!!!!

[Dan]

I've been speaking to a mate about this and it's unrealistic but a good point to bare in mind if it worked!

He reckon's that anyone (within reason) with a CSL for sale in the UK at least should club together and put a 10-15k premium on them, if everyone did it then it would move the overall price of them back up rather than just having one overpriced car, people then wouldn't have an option but to pay the inflated price as that would in time become the norm!...

As I say in the cold light of day unrealistic but a nice thought never the less, they'll go up in their own time, you only have to look at the E30 Evo's! ;)

[Johnnywb]

What about if we started a CSL Register fund, and bought up a few cars and then readvertised them with the premium, then we wouldn't have to sell our own!


On a slight tangent, enjoyed the news yesterday that the average price of fuel is going to go to £1.20 a litre...

That'll be and 8p a litre saving on Super... (if only!)

[No36]

hi all

fairly new to this forum

i find myself in a position similar to ANISSUT unfortunately/reluctantly selling my CSL but no really bothered if it doesnt go!


What would people’s views be on the price, being that the car doesn’t have the obligatory air con, stereo, parking sensors and xenon’s???

[shimmy]

sam

your mad

worth £35+ every day of the week.

get it changed NOW! honestly or ill buy it

[Dan]

hi all

fairly new to this forum

i find myself in a position similar to ANISSUT unfortunately/reluctantly selling my CSL but no really bothered if it doesnt go!


What would people’s views be on the price, being that the car doesn’t have the obligatory air con, stereo, parking sensors and xenon’s???


IMO a genuine 16.5k miles car regardless of options is worth more than 29k mate, 16.5k is massively low mileage and it seems that these lower mileage car's are the ones that can command a higher price :)

[No36]

ok bear with me im a newbie to forums..........is that sarcasm shimmy??

[jibm]

Plus a car without any options will be worth a mint in the future IMO

[No36]

cheers dan thanks for the advice

[shimmy]

is that sarcasm shimmy??


NO

so cheap it looks dodgy imho

id say a genuine 16.5k mile car should be on the advert for £35k but sell anywhere above £32k

[No36]

Cheers shimmy thanks for the advice!

the mileage is genuine the car has the usual little bits and pieces that need doing i.e. few stone chips to bumper (mainly cosmetic things) but other than that is in good condition.

Thanks for the reassurance.

[shimmy]

Cheers shimmy thanks for the advice!

the mileage is genuine the car has the usual little bits and pieces that need doing i.e. few stone chips to bumper (mainly cosmetic things) but other than that is in good condition.

Thanks for the reassurance.




with that mileage id get it looking A1 before sale to make the best price

[mattCSLnut]

hi all

fairly new to this forum

i find myself in a position similar to ANISSUT unfortunately/reluctantly selling my CSL but no really bothered if it doesnt go!



What would people’s views be on the price, being that the car doesn’t have the obligatory air con, stereo, parking sensors and xenon’s???



What Shimmy said... it HAS TO be, at the very least £35K :thumbs:
Some car dealers like Mr N.J. are selling examples (albeit with some obligatory options ;) :hahaha: ) with more miles for mid £30 K.
Yours represents what a TRUE M3 CSL should be... Option less and as lightweight as originally intended :thumbs:
Get it looking A1 and £35K is achievable as it would make a cracking Track Toy for someone or at worst a valuable asset to a Private collector.

[sailorbaz]

As everyone is saying mate, ramp that price up a bit and I'm guessing you're probably already realising it's a bit cheap with the amount of phone calls you're getting already, ;-)

I know of someone that paid £32K privately for one with 23K miles on it (iirc) and a load of options on it.

Good luck with the sale either way, someone will get a cracking car nonetheless!

[Bounce]

Have to agree with all the above mate,you can add 4-5k on your price for such low milage.;)

[shimmy]

bugger i should have bought it:bigcry:

[No36]

thanks for the advice guys much appreciated!

[M5 Powered]

With the M3 GTS being so overpriced and not much quicker,
all BMW did is push the price of the CSL up.:smokin:

This is also in the context of a market where car makers have to become more green and concentrate on ROI, so you won't get many true hardcore M cars led by the engineers in the future either :banghead:

[steveH]

What Shimmy said... it HAS TO be, at the very least £35K :thumbs:
Some car dealers like Mr N.J. are selling examples (albeit with some obligatory options ;) :hahaha: ) with more miles for mid £30 K.
Yours represents what a TRUE M3 CSL should be... Option less and as lightweight as originally intended :thumbs:
Get it looking A1 and £35K is achievable as it would make a cracking Track Toy for someone or at worst a valuable asset to a Private collector.

How very interesting guys. Can I ask if any of you have seen this car?? No, guessed not.
See my querries a few threads below and compare comments there against points made below and believe these refer to same car.
My initial thourghts to were 16.5k miles @ £29k got to be worth a look-see. I have and seen enough to be interested but not at £29k and neither would most of you either unless you are soley interested in price-hiking as own one already but then you would not really be likely to buy another :banghead:
The car is by no means poor but it needs spending on to bring it up to £29++k mark and as a 'non-extras' model it is not worth same as ones with the std. options ie a/c & stereo in todays market and may well not be for many many moons.
Ultimately proof is in the pudding as if it was/is that good a deal it would be sold by now.
So dangerous to comment without seeing any car in the flesh IMO.
For the record I am still interested but comments below may prove to have raised sellers expectations if so then I am out!!!

[shane@mbtech]

How very interesting guys. Can I ask if any of you have seen this car?? No, guessed not.
See my querries a few threads below and compare comments there against points made below and believe these refer to same car.
My initial thourghts to were 16.5k miles @ £29k got to be worth a look-see. I have and seen enough to be interested but not at £29k and neither would most of you either unless you are soley interested in price-hiking as own one already but then you would not really be likely to buy another :banghead:
The car is by no means poor but it needs spending on to bring it up to £29++k mark and as a 'non-extras' model it is not worth same as ones with the std. options ie a/c & stereo in todays market and may well not be for many many moons.
Ultimately proof is in the pudding as if it was/is that good a deal it would be sold by now.
So dangerous to comment without seeing any car in the flesh IMO.
For the record I am still interested but comments below may prove to have raised sellers expectations if so then I am out!!!


I think that your comments above have some truth, but I disagree re the lack of options and price.

Right now the lack of options may hinder resale but not price. It may take longer to sell but I dont think its worth less. The problem arises when no interest arises, they lower the price, no interest still, they become desperate to sell so lower even further. It only takes a few desperate to sell people to destroy the value in a prestige marque such as a CSL. Patience is key.
I feel in the future an optionless CSL will be worth more. A true CSL so to speak, if one exists.
After all the whole ethos surrounding the CSL, was stripped out lightweight thoroughbred race car type. A true enthusiast will pay premium for a true csl;)










ps I'm biased, as my csl is optionless;)

[glendog74]

I agree to some extent with Shane ^^

I think that an 'optionless' car will for the most part always be valued at less than the equivalent, same mileage, optioned car - by most buyers. That's the main consequence of owning a no-options CSL when it comes to selling - the potential buyer customer base is considerably smaller than that of someone selling a fully optioned CSL. Most buyers expect creature comforts these days - even on a purists car like the CSL.

I was like most buyers when i was looking for my CSL and used it daily at first enjoying the extras that the car has. Now i only use it for track days and Ring trips and i can honestly say that i wouldn't miss any option except perhaps aircon. I would be very interested in that car if i was a new buyer now...

[shane@mbtech]

I agree to some extent with Shane ^^

I think that an 'optionless' car will for the most part always be valued at less than the equivalent, same mileage, optioned car - by most buyers. That's the main consequence of owning a no-options CSL when it comes to selling - the potential buyer customer base is considerably smaller than that of someone selling a fully optioned CSL. Most buyers expect creature comforts these days - even on a purists car like the CSL.

I was like most buyers when i was looking for my CSL and used it daily at first enjoying the extras that the car has. Now i only use it for track days and Ring trips and i can honestly say that i wouldn't miss any option except perhaps aircon. I would be very interested in that car if i was a new buyer now...


You have to admit Rob, that my optionless CSL is faster too;):blalalala:

Im off to bed, night night boys

[glendog74]

You have to admit Rob, that my optionless CSL is faster too;):blalalala:

Im off to bed, night night boys

That's coz you save even more weight by having one arm ;)

[Bounce]

That's coz you save even more weight by having one arm ;)Dont get any ideas Rob,you need both of yours in your line of work.:smt075

[sailorbaz]

That's coz you save even more weight by having one arm ;)

I bet he doesn't have a Carbon fibre bonnet vent though, :hahaha:

[shimmy]

As above, optionless have been perceived to be worth less but in the future will be perceived less so

I believe there is a Market for them at the same price as those with extras but as Shane said, less buyers.

Any decent condition CSL at 16k miles ought to be £35k plus as asking price.

[glendog74]

I believe there is a Market for them at the same price as those with extras but as Shane said, less buyers.

Any decent condition CSL at 16k miles ought to be £35k plus as asking price.

I said that Shim ;)

I think a nice 16k miles CSL a year or two ago (with options) would fetch £35k plus - not now. Of course there's always someone out there who will be more than happy to pay over the odds for anything if they want it enough - the seller just has to be patient for them to appear.

I'm just as keen as anyone to keep CSL prices strong but at the end of the day they are simply cars and most buyers wont be prepared to pay much over the odds for a CSL when comparing with similar albeit higher mileage CSLs. The E46 CSL has no racing pedigree to fall back on unlike earlier M cars such as the E30 M3 Evo Sport and the original E9 CSL.

All IMHO of course... :whistle:

[Bounce]

Cheers shimmy thanks for the advice!

the mileage is genuine the car has the usual little bits and pieces that need doing i.e. few stone chips to bumper (mainly cosmetic things) but other than that is in good condition.

Thanks for the reassurance.



Hi mate,did your 16.5k mile CSL have its running in service done at the right time,as this could change the whole thread on your car.;)

[shimmy]

I said that Shim ;)

I :

Sorry mate all I heard was.......pink wheels,.....show tunes.......fitted Tshirt........Brighton.........:)

[Bounce]

Sorry mate all I heard was.......pink wheels,.....show tunes.......fitted Tshirt........Brighton.........:):hahaha::hahaha:: gayfight:

[sailorbaz]

Sorry mate all I heard was.......pink wheels,.....show tunes.......fitted Tshirt........Brighton.........:)

Classic response! :hahaha:

[glendog74]

Sorry mate all I heard was.......pink wheels,.....show tunes.......fitted Tshirt........Brighton.........:)

Stop dreaming about what you'd rather be doing and concentrate on the forum instead you big ponce :gayfight:

[steveH]

Hi mate,did your 16.5k mile CSL have its running in service done at the right time,as this could change the whole thread on your car.;)

The first 1200 mile check was done at 462 miles.
The next oil service 11-04-07 @ 10505 miles

Brake fluid 29-11-05 @ 1623 miles
2nd..........04-04-06 @ 2038 miles
missed one due 04-2008 and now due again as every two years BUT it has had new discs & calipers under warrenty so would have been done then but not stamped book.

the mileage is genuine the car has the usual little bits and pieces that need doing i.e. few stone chips to bumper (mainly cosmetic things) but other than that is in good condition.

Having actually seen the car it is in fair condition and a good detail would give it a shine but there is paintwork reqd and 5 or so dents to remove. It is certainly no better for its low miles as may have been expected.
The servicing and paint / other 'bits' to replace etc along with no options is why I believe the price asked is a little too high but as said below spend £3-5k and get the car back to split mint and yes someone may then pay £33k or so.
It does make Nick Johnsons 17k miler with extras & warrenty seem a better buy @ £34k on paper but has anyone seen / know about this one??

[Bealo]

Interesting thread...

I'm seriously thinking of putting mine up for sale in the next week or so and at the moment am thinking of putting the car back to standard and selling it and the performance parts separately. opinions on this please!!!!!

What do you guys think mine is worth????

64K and i'm the second owner, full BMWSH, first service done on time etc....

:thumbs:

[glendog74]

Revert the car back to standard - perhaps leaving the BBK on.

Oh, and remove that black bin bag from the paintwork... :hahaha:

[Bealo]

Revert the car back to standard - perhaps leaving the BBK on.

Oh, and remove that black bin bag from the paintwork... :hahaha:

Thanks for the advice pint pot.... What about asking price?

[glendog74]

In standard trim having had a detail carried out, £23-25k?

[shimmy]

Back to OEM except BBK I'd ask for 23k and settle for 21k

[glendog74]

I know of one with 75k miles or so that went for £20k recently - totally standard.

At your miles with a BBK i would still expect £23k :thumbs:

[Bealo]

Good to know thanks

Obviously i would sell it with everything on it for the right price but i would defo get more back putting it back to standard :thumbs:

[shimmy]

Good to know thanks

Obviously i would sell it with everything on it for the right price but i would defo get more back putting it back to standard :thumbs:

If I were you I'd sell as it is with extras for a fair sum above base price for say 3 weeks then put it up on PH etc OEM and sell extras separately

[sailorbaz]

Yeah, I see that's what Scott is doing now. He's stripped his car back to standard including the brakes and selling them off separately. His has on the Market for a couple of weeks, for some reason standard seems to be more desirable... I suppose it might be to some.

[evo1]

Hi chaps

Sorry to invade this thread as you probably know from my wanted ad i am looking for a csl so any of you thinking of selling do give me a PM, have a look at my wanted post.

Sorry to intrude once again

[Dan]

Yeah, I see that's what Scott is doing now. He's stripped his car back to standard including the brakes and selling them off separately. His has on the Market for a couple of weeks, for some reason standard seems to be more desirable... I suppose it might be to some.

Unfortunately I think new buyer's all have the same mind set, if it's got a BBK and other upgrade's it's possibly lead a hard life on track...

That's what I thought personally and I didn't want that, so went for a 1 owner, low mileage, optioned totally stock car, I'm very happy that I can feel the benefit of anything I do to it now though so it doesn't worry me at all :thumbs:

[DuncanR]

Unfortunately I think new buyer's all have the same mind set, if it's got a BBK and other upgrade's it's possibly lead a hard life on track :thumbs:
Unlike mine of course ! ... oh ..and yours Bealo !!:hahaha:

[Yanto]

Thanks for the advice pint pot.... What about asking price?

Eh ? Stu, what happened to all this talk about the Spa trip reigniting your passion in the car and all the mods you intended to make ? Fookin turncoat :hahaha::hahaha:

[Bounce]

Eh ? Stu, what happened to all this talk about the Spa trip reigniting your passion in the car and all the mods you intended to make ? Fookin turncoat :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[shimmy]

:hahaha::hahaha:


Bounce- do you only use smilies!!! never seen you type anything :hahaha:

[sailorbaz]

Bounce- do you only use smilies!!! never seen you type anything :hahaha:

Does it to keep his post count up... :hahaha:

[Yanto]

:hahaha:

[Yanto]

Brett would

[Yanto]

Never Do anything

[Yanto]

Like that

[Bounce]

Does it to keep his post count up... :hahaha:;)

[Yanto]

;)

[Bounce]

Bounce- do you only use smilies!!! never seen you type anything :hahaha:Cant read or write Shim,and usually pissed.:thumbs:

[shimmy]

Cant read or write Shim,and usually pissed.:thumbs:


AHHHHHH, cORNISH! (FECK)

[sailorbaz]

Whilst searching for new wheels for Mrs Sailorbaz I couldn't help but notice this wee beauty...

BMW: Keep up the good work (http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details/0,,1156___ask-5%40adm-xx,00.html?ch=_V0JTQkw5NjA5MEpDOTgxNzY=&btp=1x12-price_DESC)

Keeping prices strong, thinking I bought mine with 17k on it for £35.5K, 5 1/2 YEARS ago! :thumbs:

[outnumbered]

Whilst searching for new wheels for Mrs Sailorbaz I couldn't help but notice this wee beauty...

BMW: Keep up the good work (http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details/0,,1156___ask-5%40adm-xx,00.html?ch=_V0JTQkw5NjA5MEpDOTgxNzY=&btp=1x12-price_DESC)

Keeping prices strong, thinking I bought mine with 17k on it for £35.5K, 5 1/2 YEARS ago! :thumbs:

Never been tracked either !

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451