Dixis or Gruppe M backbox????

[Bealo]

As title

Which one is the better buy, noisiest etc????

There are a few on flea bay i'm watching but tbh never heard of the Dixis

Any info would be appreciated. :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

As title

Which one is the better buy, noisiest etc????

There are a few on flea bay i'm watching but tbh never heard of the Dixis

Any info would be appreciated. :thumbs:

DIXIS if quite popular with the E46 crowd, State side. Hand Made in Japan to extremely high standards from quality materials. From what I know, I think the GruppeM is the LOUDER!!! :supz: one of the two (every time I asked about it, the replays are always... it's FOOKING LOUD!!! ) and I'm sure CSL Girl will confirm this :whistle:
Also looking into noise solutions :whistle:
Thank you please :thumbs:

[Bealo]

Well if i bid i'll let everyone know on here and vise versa so we don't bid against eachother. :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Well if i bid i'll let everyone know on here and vise versa so we don't bid against eachother. :thumbs:

OK then... U bid on the GroupeM and I'll try my luck with the Dixies noise solutions:thumbs:
Thank you please

[cslgirl]

Yip, Gruppe m is hooligan loud! I have posted before some youtube clips of mine if you do a search :thumbs:

[Bealo]

OK then... U bid on the GroupeM and I'll try my luck with the Dixies noise solutions:thumbs:
Thank you please

Haven't bidded on anything yet as i fancied the look of the Dixes :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

Haven't bidded on anything yet as i fancied the look of the Dixes :thumbs:

The dixis one is very similar to my back box. Nice and quiet cruising but screams like a bitch at full chat. I love my titanium exhaust, mine is braille fromn the good ole usa.

I had a miltek like you have on now, it was too boomy for my liking and my titanium one is just right.

Its noisy when cold but quietens right down when warmed up.

PS I'm keeping the csl now Stu, could not part with it. :smokin:
Im picking it up from murketts tomorrow morning:thumbs:

[sailorbaz]

GruppeM well loud, but WHAT A SOUND on full chat!

I'd say, go for the Dixis, just for something different and let us know how you get on with it. Could be an interesting find, I think I am watching the same 'zorst'... hey Bealo, you at home or offshore? I've suddenly started being able to post from offshore, some relief! I'm sure others will argue with me though!

[Bealo]

Lawsy great news you haven't sold your car... can't wait to see it it in it's white wrap...

Yes Daz the Dixis with it's large tailpipes and sound sounds like a winner to me...... if idon't like it i can still move it on and keep the milltek... :thumbs:

[NZ_M3]

I am fairly certain that the Gruppe M is a whole lot louder than the Dixis

Dixis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4wThnkUvHM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gQunS63gVs&feature=related


the El Diablo from Rougue is a copy of the dixis system at a lot better price:
for eg:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=242628

[Thorney]

Not heard the Dixis but if plan to on track don't get the Gruppe M, too loud.

[outnumbered]

Yip, Gruppe m is hooligan loud! I have posted before some youtube clips of mine if you do a search :thumbs:

Bloody hell, you're not wrong there - just listened to the "around town" clip and it is mental ! Sounds great but it'd drive me nuts within 5 minutes I think.

[glendog74]

Not heard the Dixis but if plan to on track don't get the Gruppe M, too loud.

Good point - take note Bealo!

My SS setup was 100dB at Spa :whistle:

[Dan]

Not heard the Dixis but if plan to on track don't get the Gruppe M, too loud.

I'm sure that csl girl did Brands (or somewhere) not long ago with her Gruppe M fitted, wonder what the db was?

I didn't bother asking what my standard one was at Spa Rob, no point, I wasn't worried so long as it passed! Lol :thumbs:

[Thorney]

Brands isn't really that tough on noise but certainly I know guys with gruppem who've been kicked off almost ever track I know, does depend on climactic conditions of course.

[cslgirl]

I'm sure that csl girl did Brands (or somewhere) not long ago with her Gruppe M fitted, wonder what the db was?

I didn't bother asking what my standard one was at Spa Rob, no point, I wasn't worried so long as it passed! Lol :thumbs:

I did Brands when I had the OEM, haven't done any track days with the gruppe m. Would probably swap it if I was to do another track day to make sure there was no noise problem. :)

[cslgirl]

Bloody hell, you're not wrong there - just listened to the "around town" clip and it is mental ! Sounds great but it'd drive me nuts within 5 minutes I think.

LOL, it is an acquired taste ;):hahaha:

[mole]

lol, it is an acquired taste ;):hahaha:

hooligan !

[cslgirl]

:hahaha::hahaha:

Oi, you are a HOOLIGAN too Mole ;) :beer:

[mole]

:hahaha::hahaha:

Oi, you are a HOOLIGAN too Mole ;) :beer:
A lower level of HOOLIGAN though :whistle::thumbs:

[cslgirl]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm........... :smt017 :smt047

[mattCSLnut]

A lower level of HOOLIGAN though :whistle::thumbs:
5 on the ASBO scale ;) :hahaha: 10 being HOOLIGAN CSLgirl :supz:

[mole]

5 on the ASBO scale ;) :hahaha: 10 being HOOLIGAN CSLgirl :supz:

Agreed :thumbs:




Out of 8 right?

[sailorbaz]

The GruppeM was a hooligan, but it was an itch I had to scratch. Always looking for something else myself, would love a SS but brakes and Coilovers first...oh no wait, moving house and getting married first...*cough cough*

[M5 Powered]

I looked into Dixis as I suspect akrapovic won't be making an E46 system anytime soon.

As with the GruppeM exhausts you really need to see a receipt or get any serial numbers checked by the factory. Two I looked at were the product of China. Not Japan!!!!

Best

Jonathan

[Bealo]

The GruppeM was a hooligan, but it was an itch I had to scratch. Always looking for something else myself, would love a SS but brakes and Coilovers first...oh no wait, moving house and getting married first...*cough cough*

Married............ aarrgghhh lol

Seriously though Baz congrats to you and your Lady.

To answer your earlier question i'm in UK at moment and will be leaving for work tomorrow so we will see if i can post next week when i'm back on the rig.

Fingers crossed i will be able to.

Good point about the receipt aswell will ask the question.

Would ideally like the SS race box but a bit reluctant to fork out full wack on a new one.

My full Milltek was 96 dl at Spa, usually around 92-93 at UK tracks.

[1cosmicboy]

As title

Which one is the better buy, noisiest etc????

There are a few on flea bay i'm watching but tbh never heard of the Dixis

Any info would be appreciated. :thumbs:
got these babies for sale ,quite loud ,very light:whistle:

[shimmy]

Sal at Evolv. Gas just finished an E92 Akro rival exhaust and working on an E39 exhaust.

He was asking me if I thought their was a Market for an E46 system and my gut feel was that you'd get some CSL guys buying it and a few M3 guys but maybe not enough to make it viable.

[Thorney]

We will be releasing our CSL Cup race exhaust soon, centre exit, comes with carbon fibre rear valance, lighter than Akra system and comes with an FIA race cat. Even has add on sound deadeners to get round lower track day noise limits. Nothing on the market sounds even close :thumbs:

[Yanto]

We will be releasing our CSL Cup race exhaust soon, centre exit, comes with carbon fibre rear valance, lighter than Akra system and comes with an FIA race cat. Even has add on sound deadeners to get round lower track day noise limits. Nothing on the market sounds even close :thumbs:

:drool:........better than a SS Thorney ?....

aaarrghhhh................now am just getting confused :hahaha:

exhaust soutions within 3 months I hope :whistle:

[M5 Powered]

Talk about buses. Nothing then a few come along....

To Thorney,

If your system is lighter than the Akrapovic, I assume then it is made of titanium?

Also, any chance of seeing some pictures of one fitted to a car?

Shimmy, your pal at evolve sounds interesting too.


Best

Jonathan

[shimmy]

it will be interesting to see if any power or weight gains on both systems(if evolve ever do it)

i auite like the idea of a double centre exhaust for the CSL but i guess the cost of the diffuser is gonna put the prices sky high?

[Thorney]

No, still steel, wont use titanium due to potential to crack on race cars (not saying akra will crack but titanium race exhausts have a propensity to do so generally). The pictures willnexplain why it's so light, there is nothing to it really and cat is lighter. Rear diffuser is £400 but whole system including diffuser is over £1200 cheaper than akra I think, not worked out final price.

[mattCSLnut]

Haven't bidded on anything yet as i fancied the look of the Dixes :thumbs:
Back to the original thread ;):hahaha: All yours Bealo... I'm out of the bidding now that it's gone North of £800 :bigcry: plus probably too loud anyway :gayfight: for my desired CSL noise solutions.
Thank you please

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130397338506&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1219wt_1139

[Bealo]

Back to the original thread ;):hahaha: All yours Bealo... I'm out of the bidding now that it's gone North of £800 :bigcry: plus probably too loud anyway :gayfight: for my desired CSL noise solutions.
Thank you please

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130397338506&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1219wt_1139

Matt

Thanks for letting me know. i'm not sure what i'm doing at the moment as the price is getting up there to say the least.

Thanks for letting me know. :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Matt

Thanks for letting me know. i'm not sure what i'm doing at the moment as the price is getting up there to say the least.

Thanks for letting me know. :thumbs:

No worries m8. I hope U win it for a good price :beer:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130397338506&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1219wt_1139

[Yanto]

Good luck Bealo - If your locale is anything like mine, I hope you keep the motor garaged matey...

The Pikeys in my neck of the woods would have that away in seconds if they knew it was made of titanium..:hahaha:

There's been 7 regular E46 M3 bumpers lifted within about 7 streets in the last couple of months....

Who the fook is buying them all ??

(Although there has been a sharp increase in sightings of Nova's with BMW bumpers and Impreza bonnet vents of late :hahaha:)

[shane@mbtech]

it will be interesting to see if any power or weight gains on both systems(if evolve ever do it)

i auite like the idea of a double centre exhaust for the CSL but i guess the cost of the diffuser is gonna put the prices sky high?

I know the guy who makes sals exhausts. I have a guy who does custom exhausts too. I am dropping some sections for him to start making for me.

Sports cats first then see how they do, then hopefully full systems.

I will be removing my back box soon, so I will weigh it, see how light it is.

[shane@mbtech]

No, still steel, wont use titanium due to potential to crack on race cars (not saying akra will crack but titanium race exhausts have a propensity to do so generally). The pictures willnexplain why it's so light, there is nothing to it really and cat is lighter. Rear diffuser is £400 but whole system including diffuser is over £1200 cheaper than akra I think, not worked out final price.


I take it you are talking e46 here John and not your e9*?

It will be interesting to see. I toyed about with the centre exit system, losing weight from the back and running centre boxes to quieten it down,
I stopped experimenting when I was going to sell.

The only trouble I see is noise, it sounded awesome but too loud. Would have been a problem with the trackday posse.

[Thorney]

Been measured at 98db at Donington, but will ship with a special extension to bring it down to 95db. I won't deny it's been made for performance and noise so it ain't quiet:thumbs:

[shimmy]

Been measured at 98db at Donington, but will ship with a special extension to bring it down to 95db. I won't deny it's been made for performance and noise so it ain't quiet:thumbs:


driveby?

[shane@mbtech]

driveby?

98 static is not really loud loud so will be interesting to see if driveby or static

[shimmy]

98 static is not really loud loud so will be interesting to see if driveby or static



my SS race b/box is 96-98 static so must surely be driveby :smokin:

[glendog74]

My SS race back box + SS un-resonated centre section was 100dB at Spa.

I was usually 97dB like Shim without the SS centre section.

[Thorney]

Static

[shane@mbtech]

I could probably do a custom 200 cell race cat full exhaust with centre exit for £750 fitted. Only problem is as I say noise. Ill do some work on it, and try to get carbon made for the diffuser.

It would be considerably lighter, ill work on it over the summer. :thumbs:

How many boxes did it have John, to get it to 97 static.

[Thorney]

Although weirdly enough the old race system tested today at Castle Combe at 103db, went out, got it hot and down to 100db, track measurement is hardly a science.

[shimmy]

I could probably do a custom 200 cell race cat full exhaust with centre exit for £750 fitted. Only problem is as I say noise. Ill do some work on it, and try to get carbon made for the diffuser.

It would be considerably lighter, ill work on it over the summer. :thumbs:

must be tested and fitted for Spa 4/5 Ocotber :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

must be tested and fitted for Spa 4/5 Ocotber :thumbs:


Think I am In florida then shimmy, go out 2 nd week in september for 3 weeks.

Ill get one tested/fitted v soon for development purposes. :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

Titanium back "box", if you could call it that weighs 6.3lbs compared to standard back box of 52.3lbs. Saving 46lbs. or just over 20kg.

Considerable weight saving.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/images/products/horsepowerfreaks/HPFExhaustNew4.jpg

[Bealo]

must be tested and fitted for Spa 4/5 Ocotber :thumbs:

Let me know ASAP if your going for this Shimmy as i'll take your SS back box off you if you are :thumbs:

[shimmy]

eVen saves 9kg on the SSRace

[shane@mbtech]

eVen saves 9kg on the SSRace


And about $1100 for the honour.

Wonder how much the same set up in Stainless would weigh.

Ill get on it over the summer. :thumbs:

[sailorbaz]

I've just been plain boring and bought a standard CSL backbox off Ebay....

£50!!! :thumbs:

Just need to collect it now, I'm in Central Scotland, it's in West London... :bigcry:

I've agreed to collect it on my way to Goodwood in 3 weeks, so a bargain has been had I feel.

Sorry, back to topic! :whistle:

[Bealo]

The Dixis has been removed from E-bay :banghead:

Was starting to warm to that, oh well the search continues.

Does anyone know a company that could replace the tailpipes on my Milltek????

[mattCSLnut]

The Dixis has been removed from E-bay :banghead:

Was starting to warm to that, oh well the search continues.


Yeah... I saw it being pulled off fleeBay early... why ? :smt102 I don't know as it's still seems available FOR SALE here on P.H. ... link below

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1721491.htm

[DuncanR]

I've just been plain boring and bought a standard CSL backbox off Ebay....

£50!!! :thumbs:

Just need to collect it now, I'm in Central Scotland, it's in West London... :bigcry:

I've agreed to collect it on my way to Goodwood in 3 weeks, so a bargain has been had I feel.

Sorry, back to topic! :whistle:

Baz will bear this in mind mate, vans are all over the country so we could get lucky and collect for you, even if we cant deliver, we arent up in Scotland until later in Summer. If we can collect from London, we can get it back to Milton Keynes area, which saves you a bit !:smokin:

[sailorbaz]

Baz will bear this in mind mate, vans are all over the country so we could get lucky and collect for you, even if we cant deliver, we arent up in Scotland until later in Summer. If we can collect from London, we can get it back to Milton Keynes area, which saves you a bit !:smokin:

Once again, top man.

Cheer Duncan, :thumbs: