Rear Exhaust rubber mounts

[DazBlackCSL]

Needing some help solutions and what part I need to order ?

Exhaust mounts talk to me :hahaha:


How many are there in total can see two either side, one of them has broken on me today and the exhaust is rattling around under the car on the boot floor.

Need to order them tomorrow, so might as well change all of them as no doubt if one has perished the others will not be far behind.


Thanks in advance :thumbs:

Or should I wrap em in carbon vinyl :whistle:

[glendog74]

Pay attention Dazza - there was a thread about this only today! :whistle:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4248

P.S. Why do you have a pic of Shimmy on your post? :smt017

[glendog74]

P.S. Why do you have a pic of Shimmy on your post? :smt017

Ahh - i get it...!

Where's Andyk anyway? He was always the OEM champion :hahaha:

[s.mac]

for the rear box you need 3 x each of the below

10 SUPPORT RUBBER MOUNTING 3 18207839657 $11.42
11 Rubber mounting 3 18201401797 $54.00

Im lost with all the


Quote:
Originally Posted by glendog74 http://www.cslregister.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?p=51713#post51713)
P.S. Why do you have a pic of Shimmy on your post? :smt017

Ahh - i get it...!

Where's Andyk anyway? He was always the OEM champion :hahaha:

[DazBlackCSL]

for the rear box you need 3 x each of the below

10 SUPPORT RUBBER MOUNTING 3 18207839657 $11.42
11 Rubber mounting 3 18201401797 $54.00

Im lost with all the



Cheers fella :thumbs:

Will get those sorted tom, did you get your pipes back OK :whistle:

[shimmy]

Cheers fella :thumbs:

Will get those sorted tom, did you get your pipes back OK :whistle:

i think i need some as well :bigcry:

[NZ_M3]

10 SUPPORT RUBBER MOUNTING 3 18207839657 $11.42

You don't usually have to order these - you can reuse the ones on your car - they just pry off the rubber mount. Unless it's rusty and falling to pieces of course.

And even if a little bent you can bent them back with a hammer or large pliers.

[s.mac]

Cheers fella :thumbs:

Will get those sorted tom, did you get your pipes back OK :whistle:

too many beers Dazza, who's Tom :whistle:

Yes I was told the pipes landed yesterday afternoon ;) glad they helped you out :beer:
You don't usually have to order these - you can reuse the ones on your car - they just pry off the rubber mount. Unless it's rusty and falling to pieces of course.

And even if a little bent you can bent them back with a hammer or large pliers.

the one I took off, is steel with a rubber coating and the outer steel does look part of the structure, I cant see any way in getting it off ?
The new part is only rubber and has no strength to it at all ...

[DazBlackCSL]

too many beers Dazza, who's Tom :whistle:

Yes I was told the pipes landed yesterday afternoon ;) glad they helped you out :beer:

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Coolio, no was only on my second beerio ... lol, all ordered 3 of each rubber mounts and supports, thought it better to just sort them all at the same time, going on saturday morning ;)

[s.mac]

what did you pay for the Dazza?

[DazBlackCSL]

what did you pay for the Dazza?

Think they are 25 quid and a fiver x 3 , £107 all in, got a little bit of discount from my dealer this morning which is nice :hahaha:

[mole]

I just paid £23.01 and £5.14 + VAT, total £107 delivered from BMMiniparts.com :thumbs:

[mole]

I just paid £23.01 and £5.14 + VAT, total £107 delivered from BMMiniparts.com :thumbs:

Good service from BMMiniparts, arrived a couple of days later - saved a trip to the stealers :hahaha:

[DazBlackCSL]

mine all done and sorted but exhaust sitting too high up now, as I didnt have time to hang around and get it sorted, so its rubbing on the rear diffuser on and off... so back on the 24th to be tweaked as when it was up saw that the diff seal is leaking so going to changed in readiness for the ring / spa trip ;)

Shit weather this weekend but the touring car's from brands is good to watch :smt055

So wanna do that at some point in the future , shit now ive done a season racing ... miss it more now i watch it :bigcry: needing sponsorship and cash solutions please :smokin:

[shimmy]

mine all done and sorted but exhaust sitting too high up now, as I didnt have time to hang around and get it sorted, so its rubbing on the rear diffuser on and off... :smokin:

got the same issue with mine daz and i need new rubbers :thumbs:

where have you taken it?

[DazBlackCSL]

got the same issue with mine daz and i need new rubbers :thumbs:

where have you taken it?

Sytner Ascot on Sat AM, know a couple of the boys in the workshop so they chucked it on for me for a drink, but I was in a rush and couldnt hang around.

Think as the rubbers are brand new its pulled it up a lot more, so probably needs some washers to give it a bit more or a gap whilst still being tight.

Will try and live with it till it goes in for the diff seal on the 24th as they said they will play with it then ..

[shimmy]

Cheers Daz

I did a bit of DIY in the garage when it started to hail today. Managed to strip off the final rubber mount which was knackered so I need to order one for delivery next week.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/exhaustrubber.jpg

Also had a go at dropping the SS back box a little but it really needs more adjustment than I can see me getting do that can wait.

Finally whilst in the mood I striped off a few other broken bits like the two little mud flaps in front of the rear wheels which had split, the finger guard for the radiator fan which had broken at Snett (I guess something had hit it), had a go at the heat shield at the rear which since fitting the SS box and getting subframe done had started to rattle and also removed the front number plate and holder which is coming loose.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/photo.jpg

Then i took to bits the BMW wheel centre caps which come to bits to 3 pieces as the BMW bit looked shite.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/wheelcap.jpg

I've got a few bits to buy somewhere now..........:smokin:

[mole]

Cheers Daz

I did a bit of DIY in the garage when it started to hail today. Managed to strip off the final rubber mount which was knackered so I need to order one for delivery next week.

Also had a go at dropping the SS back box a little but it really needs more adjustment than I can see me getting do that can wait.

Finally whilst in the mood I striped off a few other broken bits like the two little mud flaps in front of the rear wheels which had split, the finger guard for the radiator fan which had broken at Snett (I guess something had hit it), had a go at the heat shield at the rear which since fitting the SS box and getting subframe done had started to rattle and also removed the front number plate and holder which is coming loose.

Then i took to bits the BMW wheel centre caps which come to bits to 3 pieces as the BMW bit looked shite.

I've got a few bits to buy somewhere now..........:smokin:

Bit of DIY today then Shim :hahaha:

With regards to the SS adjustment... on the exhaust hangers on the backbox there are slots, so you might be able to move the backbox up/down using those. (see below)

http://www.klangford.com/images/ssrace_step11.jpg

Also if one side sits lower than the other you should be able to adjust according to this site: http://www.klangford.com/ssraceinstall.htm - worth a read.

Or if you still can't do it, take it somewhere to get it done for you :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Cheers Rich, I saw that once I'd taken one side off and was gonna go it when I put the new rubber in BUT my SS box also seems to site further under my car than most (so far you can't see the top of the tips at all) bit I can see an easy way to pull it further out?

[mole]

Cheers Rich, I saw that once I'd taken one side off and was gonna go it when I put the new rubber in BUT my SS box also seems to site further under my car than most (so far you can't see the top of the tips at all) bit I can see an easy way to pull it further out?

No idea how you'd get that kind of adjustment :smt012

[rstoughy]

Mine also sits under the bumper and i cant see the tops of the tips but it does it's job and chucks everything out the rear so it's no biggie.

I'd think it might be a struggle to get it out further as its goverend by the fixed Flange on the centre part of the system that the rear box bolts to so that dictates how far in or out it sits.

[shimmy]

Mine also sits under the bumper and i cant see the tops of the tips but it does it's job and chucks everything out the rear so it's no biggie.

I'd think it might be a struggle to get it out further as its goverend by the fixed Flange on the centre part of the system that the rear box bolts to so that dictates how far in or out it sits.

doesnt bother me for looks sake but i thought it was different to everybody elses and i dont want to be DIFFERENT :bigcry:

[rstoughy]

doesnt bother me for looks sake but i thought it was different to everybody elses and i dont want to be DIFFERENT :bigcry:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: it's classed as individuality ;)

That's what i'm telling myself anyway :bigcry:

[mattCSLnut]

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: it's classed as individuality ;)

That's what i'm telling myself anyway :bigcry:

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

[mole]

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Did you take that photo Matt? :hahaha:

[glendog74]

Did you take that photo Matt? :hahaha:

I doubt it as his car isn't anywhere to be seen! :gayfight: :hahaha:

[mattCSLnut]

Did you take that photo Matt? :hahaha:

"Google" was my friend :whistle:

[s.mac]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290422283197

the metal outer casing does come off the old mounts ;)

[mole]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290422283197

the metal outer casing does come off the old mounts ;)

Or order new ones :hahaha:

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12hga0&outx=500&quality=70

[glendog74]

Or order new ones :hahaha:


I've just been to my stealers and ordered some new nuts/bolts and a couple of rubber hangers ready for my unresonated Supersprint centre section solution to go on at the weekend - hopefully :whistle: :smt096

[mattCSLnut]

I've just been to my stealers and ordered some new nuts/bolts and a couple of rubber hangers ready for my unresonated Supersprint centre section solution to go on at the weekend - hopefully :whistle: :smt096

100 dB + here we come ... :whistle:

[glendog74]

100 dB + here we come ... :whistle:

No worries - i will just need to choose my TDs wisely :hahaha:

I'm bored of Castle Combe and i can live without Bedford - there are plenty of 100dB & 105dB days out there.

The Ring is pretty lenient most of the time :whistle:

[s.mac]

100 dB + here we come ... :whistle:

I cant say when I put a SS centre section on that the noise level increased, although I never had a meter to check ... I did think the drone increased at slow non accelerating speeds.
I think most of the noise comes from the backbox.
Im not even sure if decats increased the noise levels but just the tone to a more raspy sound although Dazza may be able to confirm, I might be slighty deaf :(

I have thought about the SS resonated one but for now the OEM is fine :)

[glendog74]

I cant say when I put a SS centre section on that the noise level increased

I have the unresonated pipe to go on - it should be noisier! :smokin:

[DazBlackCSL]

I cant say when I put a SS centre section on that the noise level increased, although I never had a meter to check ... I did think the drone increased at slow non accelerating speeds.
I think most of the noise comes from the backbox.
Im not even sure if decats increased the noise levels but just the tone to a more raspy sound although Dazza may be able to confirm, I might be slighty deaf :(

I have thought about the SS resonated one but for now the OEM is fine :)

It was def noisier without question, even the neighbours made comment and there used to the normal SS race on early start up :whistle:

[glendog74]

early start up :whistle:

Early? Do me a favour!;) :hahaha:

[DazBlackCSL]

Early? Do me a favour!;) :hahaha:
:hahaha: http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-057.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/Free-Sad-Smileys/)

[s.mac]

I need to get my hearing checked :(

[DazBlackCSL]

Just thought id chuck a update on the mounting solutions from yesterday as I know some of you have or are about to purchase new ones, and fit / re-fit looking at this thread now..

So main issue after having new rear rubbers on was the rear supersprint box was pulled up higher, probably down to the fact that the mounts were worn when it was first fitted, as not something that we all do when replacing the system.

Best / easiest way to get this dropped down just enough, is to remove all and re attach with some washers for spacing it lower on the underside, it now looks as it should.

On playing around yesterday also noted that my mid section mounts (the ones on the actual exhaust) has snapped on one side see pic, so had to spot weld this back together, and all sorted now, so just might be worth checking a few bits and bobs when doing the whole system ;)

[mattCSLnut]

Just thought id chuck a update on the mounting solutions from yesterday as I know some of you have or are about to purchase new ones, and fit / re-fit looking at this thread now..

So main issue after having new rear rubbers on was the rear supersprint box was pulled up higher, probably down to the fact that the mounts were worn when it was first fitted, as not something that we all do when replacing the system.

Best / easiest way to get this dropped down just enough, is to remove all and re attach with some washers for spacing it lower on the underside, it now looks as it should.

On playing around yesterday also noted that my mid section mounts (the ones on the actual exhaust) has snapped on one side see pic, so had to spot weld this back together, and all sorted now, so just might be worth checking a few bits and bobs when doing the whole system ;)

Good update Daz :thumbs: ... I did my mid section mounts few days ago and noticed the flanges on the mid exhaust were bent upwards :smt017 therefore the mid section was hanging lower then it should be and banging on the rear suspension, especially when driving on bumpy roads. (mainly THANX to going through the Karussell 55 times :whistle: few weeks ago) Now having fitted the new mid mounts (as per pic) and re bending the flanges to a fully horizontal position, has put a stop to all that banging. :beer:

[glendog74]

Good work fellas - this makes my upcoming job simpler :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Good work fellas - this makes my upcoming job simpler :thumbs:


Siiimpools :beer:

[glendog74]

Not even sound same!

[DazBlackCSL]

fooking homotron :whistle:

[mole]

Some more photo solutions of exhaust solutions :thumbs:

Flat gasket x2 18307830674
Hex Bolt M8X30-ZNS x6 07119901170
Hex nut M8 x6 11621744323
Gasket ring x1 18111723379
GASKET RING ASBESTO-FREE x1 18101405737
SQUARE NUT M8 x4 11621741172
Hex Bolt M8X50 x4 07119904533
Hex Bolt M8X45 x3 07119912506
Collar nut M8 x3 07119927022
Hex nut M8 x 6 11621711954
Rubber mounting x 2 18207832991
FLANGE x 1 18111719417

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12i69h&outx=600&quality=70

:whistle:

[shimmy]

now ive sorted my exhaust and the rear rattle i had i am moving onto the other bits

1. new BMW wheel hub centres
2. new front plate
3. mudflappy bits

gotm these today for both sides as old ones were split - ONLY £9 in total from tne dealer!!! :thumbs:

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/trim.jpg

[shimmy]

Rich

whats the bigger rubber one on the right?

Some more photo solutions of exhaust solutions :thumbs:

Flat gasket x2 18307830674
Hex Bolt M8X30-ZNS x6 07119901170
Hex nut M8 x6 11621744323
Gasket ring x1 18111723379
GASKET RING ASBESTO-FREE x1 18101405737
SQUARE NUT M8 x4 11621741172
Hex Bolt M8X50 x4 07119904533
Hex Bolt M8X45 x3 07119912506
Collar nut M8 x3 07119927022
Hex nut M8 x 6 11621711954
Rubber mounting x 2 18207832991
FLANGE x 1 18111719417

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12i69h&outx=600&quality=70

:whistle:

[mole]

Rich

whats the bigger rubber one on the right?

Those 3 rubbers at the top are all the same and for the backbox dude :smokin:

Looks like we're all up to some DIY solutions at the moment :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Those 3 rubbers at the top are all the same and for the backbox dude :smokin:

Looks like we're all up to some DIY solutions at the moment :hahaha:

Aaahhhhhh

just pictured upside down!!

[mole]

Aaahhhhhh

just pictured upside down!!

http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12xri1&outx=500&quality=70

My exhaust solution going on today :thumbs:All new rubbers, bolts, nuts, gaskets, rings, flange etc etc in the process.

It sounds AWESOME :thumbs::thumbs:

[glendog74]

Looks like we've all been doing some exhaust lovin' lately! :smt055

I swapped out the OEM centre pipe for a SS unresonated centre section today. I thought it would be a 2 hour job but it ended up taking somewhat longer...! The six bolts that attach the centre section to the cats are a real pain to get to and then i struggled for a while to remove the 3 x 16mm bolts that hold the cross member in place. You need to remove this to give space to remove the pipe.

Once off i noticed that the OEM section was noticeably heavier than the SS as expected. I swapped the heat shield and mounting bracket over before fitting the SS. Fitting was a little quicker than removal although one small problem was that i noticed rather too late that the SS flanges are thinner than the OEM ones and consequently overtightened the bolts slightly... Once all back on i did a leak check and all seemed ok apart from a minor condensation weep from one of the flange unions at the back box end.

First impressions on a short test drive revealed that it is indeed noisier - particularly under hard acceleration. It makes the CSL 'rasp' sound even angrier but is not really much noisier at slower speeds :thumbs:

[mole]

Looks like we've all been doing some exhaust lovin' lately! :smt055

I swapped out the OEM centre pipe for a SS unresonated centre section today. I thought it would be a 2 hour job but it ended up taking somewhat longer...! The six bolts that attach the centre section to the cats are a real pain to get to and then i struggled for a while to remove the 3 x 16mm bolts that hold the cross member in place. You need to remove this to give space to remove the pipe.

Once off i noticed that the OEM section was noticeably heavier than the SS as expected. I swapped the heat shield and mounting bracket over before fitting the SS. Fitting was a little quicker than removal although one small problem was that i noticed rather too late that the SS flanges are thinner than the OEM ones and consequently overtightened the bolts slightly... Once all back on i did a leak check and all seemed ok apart from a minor condensation weep from one of the flange unions at the back box end.

First impressions on a short test drive revealed that it is indeed noisier - particularly under hard acceleration. It makes the CSL 'rasp' sound even angrier but is not really much noisier at slower speeds :thumbs:

I like that :thumbs:Those 6 bolts you struggled with that bolt centre to cats - I did too :bigcry: My nuts had rusted to nearly nothing. Decided to take cats off and then remove all other sections off car. Turned out to be MUCH easier. Bolted cats to "new" centre section then refitted. Then fitted backbox. Took much longer than expected, about 6 hours, but done now :thumbs:SOLUTIONS :hahaha:

[glendog74]

Took much longer than expected, about 6 hours, but done now :thumbs:SOLUTIONS :hahaha:

Snap - 6 hours here too! :banghead: :hahaha:

[Mark CSL]

I like that :thumbs:Those 6 bolts you struggled with that bolt centre to cats - I did too :bigcry: My nuts had rusted to nearly nothing. :hahaha:
My nuts had rusted to nearly nothing. you dont hear that every day :hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[mole]

Snap - 6 hours here too! :banghead: :hahaha:

Always takes longer than you expect, especially when cars are this old and things corrode etc :banghead:

Didn't get a pic of the finished article :bigcry:but here are some pics along the way.

Whole exhaust off the car inc. cats.
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12xvo5&outx=400&quality=70

Old flanges on backbox/centre
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12xvoc&outx=400&quality=70

New centre mounted to cats, with new nuts, bolts and gaskets
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12xvof&outx=400&quality=70

New rubbers on the centre (one of the old ones had actually split, so good job I got new ones)
http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=12xvo8&outx=400&quality=70

[shimmy]

Good update Daz :thumbs: ... I did my mid section mounts few days ago and noticed the flanges on the mid exhaust were bent upwards :smt017 therefore the mid section was hanging lower then it should be and banging on the rear suspension, especially when driving on bumpy roads. (mainly THANX to going through the Karussell 55 times :whistle: few weeks ago) Now having fitted the new mid mounts (as per pic) and re bending the flanges to a fully horizontal position, has put a stop to all that banging. :beer:

after getting a rattle located at BMSport today i need to replace the mid mounts and check the brackets are level to pull the exhaust up (and then as Daz said maybe space the rear down a bit as long as it dont make the middle worse)

Can the middle mounts be done without removing the mid section exhaust - how difficult?????:smokin:

[mole]

after getting a rattle located at BMSport today i need to replace the mid mounts and check the brackets are level to pull the exhaust up (and then as Daz said maybe space the rear down a bit as long as it dont make the middle worse)

Can the middle mounts be done without removing the mid section exhaust - how difficult?????:smokin:

I reckon it's probably doable but don't quote me on that! Wait and see what mattCSLnut comes back with :hahaha:

You need to remove the 4 bolts on each of the metal sections that go over the mid section (9 in pic below), one has 2 more nuts which hold the rubber mounts. Once these are off you should be able (if you can get to the 2 nuts on top) remove the old rubbers from the exhaust itself and replace with new ones then put the metal plates back on.... hope that makes sense.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/a/p/188.png

Did you get anything else done at BMSport?

[shimmy]

yep,so hard bit will be getting a spanner on the top nuts and then again tightenng them up!

[mole]

yep,so hard bit will be getting a spanner on the top nuts and then again tightenng them up!

Yes! Thinking about it more, it has to be a socket as a spanner won't get in the channel of the bracket...hmmmmm

[mattCSLnut]

yep,so hard bit will be getting a spanner on the top nuts and then again tightenng them up!

I did mine on a friends ramp... 13 mm ratchet spanner is the tool that you'll need to use :thumbs: on the top nuts (not enough room for anthing else) The driver side was easy but for the passenger side I pushed the whole exhaust over by wedging a block of wood against the chassis. Also remember to remove both metal plates that are bolted to the chassis. This'll give you enough room to ratchet the spanner back and forth... douse no need to remove the whole exhaust system just to change the middle mounts :beer: Having access to a proper ramp did come in very handy :whistle:

[mole]

I did mine on a friends ramp...

Your spoilt :blalalala:

There you go Shim, it's doable mate :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

Your spoilt :blalalala:

There you go Shim, it's doable mate :thumbs:

Why complicate life ?!?! :whistle: