A CSL and after that?

[Advevo]

I have my csl i am real happy with it. It s a dream car to drive on the limit. But this car does have some age under its belt. And to put it again full year on track i think the csl might get a little tired. Clutch slurr it already has etc etc.

I am running with the idea to get me secondhand 997 GT3 next because bmw does have nothing to offer. I rather have a new CSL.

Option GTS is there but price is overdone. I think if you spend that kind of money a 3.8 GT3 RS would be a better choice.

How are you guys thinking about a next car. What route are the most guys going.

I have had an e90 M3 and it s a heavy and to far off a fun car like a csl or gt3 is. So i am real curious about youre choices after the csl.

[Hazy]

weapons grade CS on crack cocaine next :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[nrb]

I have my csl i am real happy with it. It s a dream car to drive on the limit. But this car does have some age under its belt. And to put it again full year on track i think the csl might get a little tired. Clutch slurr it already has etc etc.

I am running with the idea to get me secondhand 997 GT3 next because bmw does have nothing to offer. I rather have a new CSL.

Option GTS is there but price is overdone. I think if you spend that kind of money a 3.8 GT3 RS would be a better choice.

How are you guys thinking about a next car. What route are the most guys going.

I have had an e90 M3 and it s a heavy and to far off a fun car like a csl or gt3 is. So i am real curious about youre choices after the csl.


This was exactly my thinking in the summer of 2008, first ring trip of the year and mind made up white 997 GT3 Clubsport with matt black wheels please....then the recession.

I would also like to think a GTS would be on the radar but i would not pay anymore than i did originally for my CSL in early 2004, i cant justify/afford that amount on a car that is only used on track. As much as i love M cars though I honestly believe people will still modify a GTS to "make up" the difference to a GT3, therfore do i want fork out another 10k plus on top of the likely 60k plus for a used one?? err no.

My 2 year plan is keep the CSL for track (just spent a fortune on it so i know its solid), swap the 5 series for a 335d touring (work/dog) and get the girlfriend a new car OR let her get a new car and I get an RS6 avant :smokin:

[shimmy]

With me it tends to be that I buy any car that I crave. Luckily I don't crave too many :)

don't really crave Pork.......

But I have had a little hankering fir a DBS recently

[Advevo]

It s nice to see eveyone choices.

[Curly]

A bit the same as nrb always fancied a GT3 after the csl but they still don't do it in a pdk hopefully one day;)

[Thorney]

GTR or R8.

BMW have very little on the radar that justifies a move up and away from either a CSL or an E92 M3 imo.

[thegingerninja]

So long as the CSL is kept well serviced and any worn parts replaced - it should keep going for a long long time. There is nothing on the market that offers the same performance to cost ratio IMO. I drove mine at weekend for the first time since it went into winter storage in September - reminded me why I kept it, what brilliant car! Makes my RS4 feel a bit sluggish to be honest.

[mole]

GTR or R8.

BMW have very little on the radar that justifies a move up and away from either a CSL or an E92 M3 imo.

Fancy a GTR myself at the moment :smokin:

[danr55]

GTR for me too I think. Although I really like GT3s etc..

[DazBlackCSL]

as nrb gonna keep he CSL and use her a full on track weapon, always want and need to deal with the itch that is GT3 not rs, at sometime in the future, GT3 you could live with day to day, white with black wheels please in 997 flavour.

Tried to get the missus into a RR but no go, so 1 series coupe M sport currently as second car in white, black wheels coming, currently on KW's with 10mm spacers and carbon roof soon ish ! lol

[Dan]

GTR or R8.

BMW have very little on the radar that justifies a move up and away from either a CSL or an E92 M3 imo.

Couldn't agree more actually, have loved the R8 since I saw the first concept, would definately need to have the V10 though as it would bug me having a V8 knowing there is a better one about! :hahaha:

GTR's are amazing and I nearly put a deposit on a Charcoal Grey one a year or two ago when they were stupid money, I'm so glad I didn't as it would have been like another bloody mortgage!

I quite like Noble's but would keep that as a toy due to reliability issues, all that leaves is a F1 355 which I've wanted since I was a child or maybe a 996 Turbo (maybe even a GT2 if money allowed) :thumbs:

[Curly]

the problem with the GTR if you have a light bump in one especially the front bumper it will cost mega money to fix and if you pass anybody on the road or track they will just say its the car not the driver :smokin:

[glendog74]

I was thinking to try a SB CSL, although i'm not sure that i could handle the extra speed! :bigcry:

[DazBlackCSL]

I was thinking to try a SB CSL, although i'm not sure that i could handle the extra speed! :bigcry:


HOMO :smt047

True would be a step up tho :whistle:

[phat///M3]

HOMO :smt047

True would be a step up tho :whistle:

:thumbs:

[MichCSL]

Just for pure hardcorefun on track i think you must buy a Lotus Exige Cup 260. Insain peformance for low price.

[mole]

the problem with the GTR if you have a light bump in one especially the front bumper it will cost mega money to fix and if you pass anybody on the road or track they will just say its the car not the driver :smokin:

More than a CSL bumper???!!

[DazBlackCSL]

Think a GTR is a bit like dating a lap dancer, great idea at the time, awesome when you've got the horn, but far to complicated and temperamental to live with day to day, and cost you a fortune in the long run :whistle:

[AlexGTT]

Think a GTR is a bit like dating a lap dancer, great idea at the time, awesome when you've got the horn, but far to complicated and temperamental to live with day to day, and cost you a fortune in the long run :whistle:

Still wouldn't mind giving the lap dancer thing a go though......:whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

Still wouldn't mind giving the lap dancer thing a go though......:whistle:

True you would ! :hahaha:

[fergusgo]

Been debating the question "where do I go next" for a while now.
My thoughts would be:

1) 997 GT3
2) GT-R
3) 996 GT3

However have never driven any - just had a few passenger laps in the 997 GT3 with PCCBs round the ring and it was stunning. (Would think that the RS's would be a little too hardcore for the road.)

Cost also must be a factor with the 997 GT3 being 20k more than the others. On a value for money basis surely the GT-R wins hands down????

Someone on here must have 1st hand experience of all/most of the above? If so how do the GT3s compare with the GT-R?

[nrb]

I love GTR's but would only use one as a daily drive with moderate ring use, never a full on track weapon. Ive heard some alarming tales on how much these things cost if you are doing lots of track days

[Hazy]

as nrb gonna keep he CSL and use her a full on track weapon, always want and need to deal with the itch that is GT3 not rs, at sometime in the future, GT3 you could live with day to day, white with black wheels please in 997 flavour.



my mates car, club sport spec too :smt055 nicest Beetle I have ever driven:whistle:

[glendog74]

my mates car, club sport spec too :smt055 nicest Beetle I have ever driven:whistle:

Liking that Beetle :smt055

[kpkpkp]

Fancy a GTR myself at the moment :smokin:

They are a real odd car too own. Too fast for UK roads, to easy to drive quick on a track (I did a track day with someone who I know is streets ahead of me as a driver) yet he in his F430 could not touch me in the GTR and I had only had the car 8 weeks by then. I laughed but it felt like I cheated, then got a nice Nissan flavoured bill for my post track day service and inspection.

Kp

[kpkpkp]

the problem with the GTR if you have a light bump in one especially the front bumper it will cost mega money to fix and if you pass anybody on the road or track they will just say its the car not the driver :smokin:

It is the car and not the driver - if you are brave you are fast.

Kp

[shane@mbtech]

GTR.......... big big running costs if uk car, if jap import then little better, as you can service yourself and no need for silly nissan pre/post checks. Tyres are silly money too. Would be awesome, but they are too detached, I felt this way in my evo.

GT3, etc..... im a one armed gimp, thats them out the window:banghead:(id love one though as curly says if only in PDK:smokin:)

I would love a superleggera(radders you lucky fucker:birdman:), bit out my range at the minute, although I nearly bought a gallardo 3 years ago. Just a normal one mind.

Its a hard choice for me being gearbox limited. I probably wont even bother getting something else when the csl goes, I'll have the M3 track slag, and bought the mrs a new merc ML sport. Use the astravan for work. Go out on my yfz450 quad on occasional green lane blasting, so no time for other cars. The CSL gets very limited use as it is.

[shotokan]

I'd go 996 GT3 (mk2) and give it some Manthey treatment...did the K400 on my Mk1 and it was an EPIC car

as you say no paddles tho...lol

CSL handles better (more precise, better balance) but the GT3 with Manthey is a MADMAN...(got me banned few years back...lol)

Don't even bother with the 996 Turbo...just sold mine after 9months. Very fast but very boring car IMO.

Haven't driven a 997 GT3 (am sure they are fantastic) but there was something wild about the tuned 996...

GTR doesn't really 'do it' for me somehow...very rapid but didn't feel 'special' somehow. For me it's not ALL about speed. Probably me being a bit fussy & opinionated though...

[Trawler]

They are a real odd car too own. Too fast for UK roads, to easy to drive quick on a track (I did a track day with someone who I know is streets ahead of me as a driver) yet he in his F430 could not touch me in the GTR and I had only had the car 8 weeks by then. I laughed but it felt like I cheated, then got a nice Nissan flavoured bill for my post track day service and inspection.

Kp

Just out of interest how much do Nissan charge for a post track rip off? How are the other running costs?

Nobody interested in an atom, radical, etc?

[Yanto]

my mates car, club sport spec too :smt055 nicest Beetle I have ever driven:whistle:

Hazy - your CS looks fookin ace mate :notworthy:

[kpkpkp]

Just out of interest how much do Nissan charge for a post track rip off? How are the other running costs?

Nobody interested in an atom, radical, etc?

Track day inspection is £345 then if your diffs have got too hot it doubles and brings your next service forward- they have relaxed it a bit now but I know someone who did 2 track days and ended up with a 3K bill.

1 track day and 8000 miles and my discs needed replacing.

Kp

[Thorney]

Screw that for a game of soldiers:bigcry:

[DazBlackCSL]

my mates car, club sport spec too :smt055 nicest beetle i have ever driven:whistle:


oh shit .. Shit shit ...

im now in love again, last time was in latvia last weekend !

[danr55]

Track day inspection is £345 then if your diffs have got too hot it doubles and brings your next service forward- they have relaxed it a bit now but I know someone who did 2 track days and ended up with a 3K bill.

1 track day and 8000 miles and my discs needed replacing.

Kp

Really? I might need to rethink this! Does an on-board computer point you to a dealer after a track day too?:banghead:

[AlexGTT]

997 GT3, club sport. White, Cobalt Blue or Riviera Blue. Thank you please!:drool:

[glendog74]

997 GT3, club sport. White, Cobalt Blue or Riviera Blue. Thank you please!:drool:

Me too (maybe even Tango Orange) Thank you please! :drool:

[$w!ft]

What is the clubsport package?

And why would you prefer that over a GT3 RS? I've driven a 997 gt3 rs before and I see no problem in using one to drive daily if the weather is nice and the roads are smooth.

[DazBlackCSL]

What is the clubsport package?

And why would you prefer that over a GT3 RS? I've driven a 997 gt3 rs before and I see no problem in using one to drive daily if the weather is nice and the roads are smooth.


Think thats the problem :hahaha: " if the weather is nice and the roads are smooth"

Clubsport Package is available ob the GT3, gives you the bucket seats etc etc, cage if im correct, and poss fire ext ..

[Hazy]

What is the clubsport package?

And why would you prefer that over a GT3 RS? I've driven a 997 gt3 rs before and I see no problem in using one to drive daily if the weather is nice and the roads are smooth.

clubsport is basically roll cage and carbon buckets as per the RS.

I think the GT3 CS makes the RS a little pointless, especially given the extra cost.

Lawsy..... get yer arse in a Strad mate, you know it makes sense....:supz:

[$w!ft]

I dont mean any offense, but I must say the roads in England are not ideal for owning nice cars such as the CSL and up. Very badly maintained, always wet, full of stonechips and bad quality cement.

Switzerland is nirvana compared to this. Everything is spotless!

[DazBlackCSL]

I dont mean any offense, but I must say the roads in England are not ideal for owning nice cars such as the CSL and up. Very badly maintained, always wet, full of stonechips and bad quality cement.

Switzerland is nirvana compared to this. Everything is spotless!


Dont we know it, and we all pay a fookin fortune for the privilege to drive on such shite roads :banghead: :smt075

Which is why it makes me smile everytime I massively abuse the speed limit... in erm the drive thru :whistle:

[glendog74]

Belgium's roads are even worse though! :hahaha:

[bromers]

Yeah the CS is a good route to go ....

But I just couldn't let the CSL go .... well for the time being anyway.

[bromers]

I heard £12k for a new GTR front bumper, built in airbags or something.

[shimmy]

£28k for GTR gearbox :thumbs:

[Bounce]

£28k for GTR gearbox :thumbs:No thanks, ill stick with the CSL.:whistle:

[Hazy]

I dont mean any offense, but I must say the roads in England are not ideal for owning nice cars such as the CSL and up. Very badly maintained, always wet, full of stonechips and bad quality cement.

Switzerland is nirvana compared to this. Everything is spotless!

yeah and the cops hate fast bikes and fast cars. On the run into Italy they pulled us up and read us the riot act, even though, by their own admittance, we had done nothing wrong.

[Hazy]

Switzerland is nirvana compared to this. Everything is spotless!
Now THIS is Nirvana....:thumbs: Stelvio + Glossglockner + supercars =:smt055

[$w!ft]

That's what I'm talking about!!!

I get similar roads very close to my house over there, just on the drive up to the mountains. Makes the whole driving experience so much better :thumbs:

Dont think I have so many on hand
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/Papermate_/April09011.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/Papermate_/April09029.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/Papermate_/April09031.jpg


Anyway as a Step up to the CSL for me it would be;

Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
Porsche 997 GT3 RS/CS
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera (different price league though):smt055
1970's Porsche RSR?
Pics:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/Papermate_/MacchinedepocaPadova150.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/Papermate_/MacchinedepocaPadova151.jpg

Ford GT?
Wiesmann MF5?
Aston Martin V8 Vantage (looks upgrade, not performance though)


Here's the ones I drove :supz:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/Papermate_/PaulRicard006.jpg
:blalalala: