View Full Version : Inspection 2- Main dealer or specialist??!!
reesy_csl
11-02-2010, 01:00 PM
Guys,
Interested to know how much impact on resale you think there is in using a specialist for the service as opposed to the main dealer. Just been quoted £1200 from main dealer for inspection 2, from a specialist £450.
What do you all reckon?
Cheers,
James
phat///M3
11-02-2010, 01:29 PM
Guess it all depends on which specialist, if they are well known then it shouldnt matter too much.
thegingerninja
11-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Insp 2 is the valve tappet clearance check, amongst other things (I think?) The clearances are checked and then re-shimmed if required. It is a real pain of a job to do properly - the engine has to be cold, and I mean overnight parked up on the ramp cold. If it is driven from the car park to the ramp in less than 30 seconds, it will be too hot to check the clearances. I did hear a horror story where some idiot (at the dealers) who didn't know what they were doing managed to balls up the clearances - the car was fine when it left the workshop, but the owner noticed a mis-fire develop the next day, it got worse and worse until it popped the head gasket and burnt out a valve seat. Needed a new engine - which took a lot of convincing, but luckily the guy who owned it is an engineer so they couldn't pull the wool over his eyes. Imagine if an owner had no idea how an engine worked, they'd be screwed......Dealer response:" The car was test driven after the service and was fine when you collected the car sir, this new fault has developed since"
In summary, do your homework - ask to speak to the actual mechanic who is physically going to do the service and ask him very nicely that he takes extra special care of your pride and joy, it is not a 118d! If you don't feel confident that they can do it correctly - spend your money elsewhere.
I called in at a "Well known independant CSL specialist" for a dyno run and fuelling set up on my Golf race car. Got chatting with one of the mechanics who was fitting a new vanos unit to a CSL, when I asked him- "So how do these Vanos units work, and what is the potential problem with them?" He replied, "Haven't got the faintest idea, I only started here last week and I've never done one before - but I'm sure I'll work it out" I've never been back since.
shane@mbtech
11-02-2010, 01:43 PM
Guys,
Interested to know how much impact on resale you think there is in using a specialist for the service as opposed to the main dealer. Just been quoted £1200 from main dealer for inspection 2, from a specialist £450.
What do you all reckon?
Cheers,
James
AL tuning?
Yanto
11-02-2010, 01:46 PM
Guys,
Interested to know how much impact on resale you think there is in using a specialist for the service as opposed to the main dealer. Just been quoted £1200 from main dealer for inspection 2, from a specialist £450.
What do you all reckon?
Cheers,
James
As said, depends on:
1. Which specialist ?
2. Do you have a warranty (if you do, am sure it has to be dealer....)
reesy_csl
11-02-2010, 01:53 PM
I got that quote from ncb autokraft who are a Midlands based company who alot of the guys on M car forum have recommended. Its a difficult decision because its a substantial difference, but it looks like for £600 odd, id be better off just going main dealer. I do have a warranty as well with BMW so I guess maybe I have to!
AL tuning?
They have my mates M3 Cab in next week for a few bits so will see how they get on... :)
Bounce
11-02-2010, 05:36 PM
I got that quote from ncb autokraft who are a Midlands based company who alot of the guys on M car forum have recommended. Its a difficult decision because its a substantial difference, but it looks like for £600 odd, id be better off just going main dealer. I do have a warranty as well with BMW so I guess maybe I have to!Yes mate you do have to if youve got bmw warranty.;)
M5 Powered
11-02-2010, 07:58 PM
Hi Reesy-csl
You are probably better taking it to NCB AutoKraft NOT the local stealer in Solihull / Birmingham. They are probably one the best independents in the Midlands, especially for engines.
I know because AutoKraft haved look after my M5 for over 9 years (also has to have valve clearances done) and they do it properly, unlike the dealers!
who try to do it on the SAME day :moan:
As for sticking to BMW for the service, I think the rules are 'in accordance with BMW' not has to be by BMW.
Tell him Jonathan sent you!! :beer:
weedavey
11-02-2010, 08:59 PM
Hi Reesy-csl
You are probably better taking it to NCB AutoKraft NOT the local stealer in Solihull / Birmingham. They are probably one the best independents in the Midlands, especially for engines.
I know because AutoKraft haved look after my M5 for over 9 years (also has to have valve clearances done) and they do it properly, unlike the dealers!
who try to do it on the SAME day :moan:
As for sticking to BMW for the service, I think the rules are 'in accordance with BMW' not has to be by BMW.
Tell him Jonathan sent you!! :beer:
I was told on the phone that history has to be in accordance with bmw guidelines and at authorised bmw dealer.
Taking it to dealers also keeps warranty an option for buyers at resale.
Give Murketts a call and post back, they have a good rep on here and it would be interesting to know what they charge as my ins II is up and coming this year.
Bounce
11-02-2010, 10:04 PM
Hi Reesy-csl
You are probably better taking it to NCB AutoKraft NOT the local stealer in Solihull / Birmingham. They are probably one the best independents in the Midlands, especially for engines.
I know because AutoKraft haved look after my M5 for over 9 years (also has to have valve clearances done) and they do it properly, unlike the dealers!
who try to do it on the SAME day :moan:
As for sticking to BMW for the service, I think the rules are 'in accordance with BMW' not has to be by BMW.
Tell him Jonathan sent you!! :beer:This is wrong,with the bmw extended warranty you have to use a bmw main dealer for your servicing,what you are refering to is the bmw 3 year warranty when the car is new.;)
M5 Powered
11-02-2010, 11:26 PM
Arhhh, yes. Sorry all. Got my terms and conditions book mixed up.
Indeed, you do have to visit the stealers with the extended version.
So for the CSL, servicing is the stealer. Warranty repair the stealer, consumables like brakes, clutch and any interim oil etc.. your helpful independent
:thumbs:
Simplez....
SpineOnABap
12-02-2010, 12:01 PM
Insp 2 is the valve tappet clearance check, amongst other things (I think?) The clearances are checked and then re-shimmed if required. It is a real pain of a job to do properly - the engine has to be cold, and I mean overnight parked up on the ramp cold.
The valve clearances are done in both the Inspection services, it's the spark plugs (and a filter or two) that are extra in the Insp 2.
weedavey
12-02-2010, 06:26 PM
The valve clearances are done in both the Inspection services, it's the spark plugs (and a filter or two) that are extra in the Insp 2.
And diff oil too, isn't it?
SpineOnABap
12-02-2010, 08:42 PM
And diff oil too, isn't it?
Possibly, it's in the service handbook if anyone wants to check.
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