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shimmy
11-02-2010, 12:21 AM
Had a good day today
picked up my bargain 4.10 diff from BMSport
picked up a front rim from Gromit in superb condition (he has two rears in A1 condition needing a home)
picked up my SS race back box from David Ch.
And then to top it all after being told Costco wouldn't sell me 265/35/18 Cups as they are not OEM for the car , my local tyre guy said he'd do them for £800 a set.:supz:
off to Simpsons in the morning and Bath in the afternoon/evening so honk if you see me
anissut
11-02-2010, 12:23 AM
Had a good day today
picked up my bargain 4.10 diff from BMSport
picked up a front rim from Gromit in superb condition (he has two rears in A1 condition needing a home)
picked up my SS race back box from David Ch.
And then to top it all after being told Costco wouldn't sell me 265/35/18 Cups as they are not OEM for the car , my local tyre guy said he'd do them for £800 a set.:supz:
off to Simpsons in the morning and Bath in the afternoon/evening so honk if you see me
Nice one. You forgot something though..............your boys lost to Everton. :thumbs:
mattCSLnut
11-02-2010, 12:30 AM
Had a good day today
picked up my bargain 4.10 diff from BMSport
picked up a front rim from Gromit in superb condition (he has two rears in A1 condition needing a home)
picked up my SS race back box from David Ch.
And then to top it all after being told Costco wouldn't sell me 265/35/18 Cups as they are not OEM for the car , my local tyre guy said he'd do them for £800 a set.:supz:
off to Simpsons in the morning and Bath in the afternoon/evening so honk if you see me
So when does the Big Sale of 19" Cups start then ??? :whistle: U be careful out there ;) It's fooking cold and black ice everywhere
shimmy
11-02-2010, 12:33 AM
Nice one. You forgot something though..............your boys lost to Everton. :thumbs:
Yep but luckily the only real rivals could only manage draw
I'll just have to hope Portsmouth get liqudated next Wednesday and well go 4 points clear of ManUre
(also popped into see your mate for a trial :whistle:)
shimmy
11-02-2010, 12:34 AM
So when does the Big Sale of 19" Cups start then ??? :whistle: U be careful out there ;) It's fooking cold and black ice everywhere
Just building up the tension
WATCH THIS SPACE - YOULL HEAR ABOUT IT FIRST AT CSLREG
mattCSLnut
11-02-2010, 12:36 AM
Just building up the tension
WATCH THIS SPACE - YOULL HEAR ABOUT IT FIRST AT CSLREG
I'm on tender hooks m8 :hahaha:
shimmy
11-02-2010, 12:41 AM
I'm on tender hooks m8 :hahaha:
I'll get them paired and depth measured the next sunny day!
anissut
11-02-2010, 12:43 AM
(also popped into see your mate for a trial :whistle:)
How was it?
shimmy
11-02-2010, 12:45 AM
How was it?
Promised to say nought until I have properly trialed it and given him feedback first.:smokin:
DuncanR
11-02-2010, 01:09 AM
I'll get them paired and depth measured the next sunny day!
That job will take months the amount you have !!!:hahaha::hahaha::thumbs:
Johnnywb
11-02-2010, 09:18 AM
Driving up to Bath tomorrow, so will keep my eyes peeled for you if you're still going to be around!
I was looking last night for Cups brand new and best price I could find was mytyres.co.uk at £1150 a set!
Are Costco usually quite cheap aswell then Shim? I want some new/nearly new ones... ;)
mattCSLnut
11-02-2010, 10:18 AM
I'll get them paired and depth measured the next sunny day!
Can I come over and give U a hand ??? :whistle:
mattCSLnut
11-02-2010, 10:22 AM
I was looking last night for Cups brand new and best price I could find was mytyres.co.uk at £1150 a set!
Are Costco usually quite cheap aswell then Shim? I want some new/nearly new ones... ;)
Get in line ! No queue jumping :whistle:
Get in line ! No queue jumping :whistle:
Check my other posts, I've been asking for a while! :drool: :bigcry:
Mind you, at £800 a set I might get Shimmy to order two lots! :smokin:
mattCSLnut
11-02-2010, 10:45 AM
Check my other posts, I've been asking for a while! :drool: :bigcry:
Ahh, but you've not seem my sneaky pms :whistle:
Mind you, at £800 a set I might get Shimmy to order two lots! :smokin:
You'll have a job stretching these 18" £800/set Cups over your 19" rims :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
Ahh, but you've not seem my sneaky pms :whistle:
You'll have a job stretching these 18" £800/set Cups over your 19" rims :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:
Bollocks I missed that! :bigcry: :banghead: :hahaha:
How does my £1150 a set brand spankers from mytyres sound then, any good? :)
azrael
11-02-2010, 11:08 AM
Bollocks I missed that! :bigcry: :banghead: :hahaha:
How does my £1150 a set brand spankers from mytyres sound then, any good? :)
Sounds like a reasonable price
mattCSLnut
11-02-2010, 11:21 AM
Bollocks I missed that! :bigcry: :banghead: :hahaha:
How does my £1150 a set brand spankers from mytyres sound then, any good? :)
£1150 for a complete 19" CSL Cup size Michelins sounds like a competetive deal :thumbs:, especially if it includes UK delivery :whistle:
£1150 for a complete 19" CSL Cup size Michelins sounds like a competetive deal :thumbs:, especially if it includes UK delivery :whistle:
Yep, that includes VAT & Uk Delivery mate :thumbs:
shimmy
11-02-2010, 12:06 PM
I was looking last night for Cups brand new and best price I could find was mytyres.co.uk at £1150 a set!
Are Costco usually quite cheap aswell then Shim? I want some new/nearly new ones... ;)
Costco used to do member deals on 4 Michelins
they have changed now only to do mail out discounts 20% to some
members but they have to be Oem Tyres ( so 19 inch Cups on CSL should be ok?
I have a discount voucher but runs out Sunday so if anybody want to pop round and pick it up feel free.
With the voucher a set of 19 Cups at Costco will be around £900 fitted.
alexk
11-02-2010, 12:17 PM
Had a good day today
picked up my bargain 4.10 diff from BMSport
picked up a front rim from Gromit in superb condition (he has two rears in A1 condition needing a home)
picked up my SS race back box from David Ch.
And then to top it all after being told Costco wouldn't sell me 265/35/18 Cups as they are not OEM for the car , my local tyre guy said he'd do them for £800 a set.:supz:
off to Simpsons in the morning and Bath in the afternoon/evening so honk if you see me
:beer:
Very good :-)
Costco used to do member deals on 4 Michelins
they have changed now only to do mail out discounts 20% to some
members but they have to be Oem Tyres ( so 19 inch Cups on CSL should be ok?
I have a discount voucher but runs out Sunday so if anybody want to pop round and pick it up feel free.
With the voucher a set of 19 Cups at Costco will be around £900 fitted.
I've never used Costco, we don't have one in the area, how much for a set of 19'' Cups delivered to my door? I have a mate who is a superb tyre fitter! ;) :smokin:
$w!ft
11-02-2010, 09:21 PM
damn... I wouldnt mind a set of slightly used cups and im in bath! :p
shimmy
11-02-2010, 09:53 PM
damn... I wouldnt mind a set of slightly used cups and im in bath! :p
I'm back in March!
shane@mbtech
11-02-2010, 10:52 PM
Costco used to do member deals on 4 Michelins
they have changed now only to do mail out discounts 20% to some
members but they have to be Oem Tyres ( so 19 inch Cups on CSL should be ok?
I have a discount voucher but runs out Sunday so if anybody want to pop round and pick it up feel free.
With the voucher a set of 19 Cups at Costco will be around £900 fitted.
I ordered and paid at costco, then they said they could not supply me with the cups as they are not allowed, bunch of pricks. :banghead:
Ran round like a fucking tool as they would not take payment over the phone. Got a refund, was not impressed.
M5 Powered
12-02-2010, 12:10 AM
Lawsy,
Was that for 18's or the standard OEM 19's??
Best
M5 Powered.
shimmy
12-02-2010, 01:35 AM
I've had a great coule of days hooning around the west country.
Was at Simpsons today and saw a couple if members cars there. Got some stuff sorted ready for the car to go into BMW to get the rear subframe fixed and possibly a new clutch! (again)
got a boot full of of bits and a head full of ideas.
In the morning I'll be hanging out in Bath in the Bear from 8-11 so anybody nearby come in and say hi. Not off to work in Oxford until lunchtime and then backdown the M40/M25 before rush hour.
TANKSLAPPER
12-02-2010, 08:52 AM
Shimmy, you get about a bit, no wonder why you buy so many tyres,,,,,,,,
shimmy
12-02-2010, 09:59 AM
Shimmy, you get about a bit, no wonder why you buy so many tyres,,,,,,,,
I'm out drumming up some business whilst enjoying the car and seeing some old friends
more importantly I am away from the wife and kids for a few days rest (for them more than me probably)
I recommend it, makes me feel 10 years younger (a teenager):smokin:
DuncanR
12-02-2010, 11:33 AM
I recommend it, makes me feel 10 years younger (a teenager):smokin:
I woke up this morning and felt like a teenager.... couldnt find one !:hahaha:
I've had a great coule of days hooning around the west country.
Was at Simpsons today and saw a couple if members cars there. Got some stuff sorted ready for the car to go into BMW to get the rear subframe fixed and possibly a new clutch! (again)
I love driving out in the country, did about 80 miles seeing client's in mine on Tuesday this week! Went right through, Dorset, Wiltshire and then into Somerset and back again! :smokin:
I didn't know your car has suffered the subframe failure mate!? :banghead: :(
Curly
12-02-2010, 02:05 PM
I woke up this morning and felt like a teenager.... couldnt find one !:hahaha:
Dirty old git:whistle:
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 11:32 AM
Had a good day today
picked up my bargain 4.10 diff from BMSport
picked up a front rim from Gromit in superb condition (he has two rears in A1 condition needing a home)
picked up my SS race back box from David Ch.
And then to top it all after being told Costco wouldn't sell me 265/35/18 Cups as they are not OEM for the car , my local tyre guy said he'd do them for £800 a set.:supz:
off to Simpsons in the morning and Bath in the afternoon/evening so honk if you see me
Hi Shimmy.
I've just bought a set of 4 Genuine BMW M3 18" 9J rears from your mate Mike in Essex to use as my Track wheels. They've been refurbed not too long ago in dark Anthracite and look V. COOL :thumbs:
My question is, what tyre size should I be considering for these... standard size of road tyres is 255/40/18 but they're not available in Track Day tyres sizes so my choice is either 255/35/18 or 265/35/18 (like the ones you're planing to get) Have U checked if fitting 9J 18" with 265/35/18 tyres poses any issues at the front :whistle: ... rubbing on the front wing on full lock ??? or getting too close to the suspension strut maybe ??? I'm running standard brake callipers, standard rebuild suspension and no spacers.
shimmy
15-02-2010, 12:47 PM
Cups come in 265/35/18 like the ones i have ordered. You may find other sizes in Yokos, Toyo T888 and Dunloip Direzas to better wuit the 9J but 265 should be ok as it is within tollerance.
I am not sure of the offset on the rear 18 inch M3 rims but my guess is they are about et25.
I would have thought that you should be ok on the front. Should clear the dampers ok as rims is narrower than the CSL rim. Only slight chance that you may fould the arch liner and arch on the front but that will depend on actual offset and your suspension set up (esp camber)
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Cups come in 265/35/18 like the ones i have ordered. You may find other sizes in Yokos, Toyo T888 and Dunloip Direzas to better wuit the 9J but 265 should be ok as it is within tollerance.
I am not sure of the offset on the rear 18 inch M3 rims but my guess is they are about et25.
I would have thought that you should be ok on the front. Should clear the dampers ok as rims is narrower than the CSL rim. Only slight chance that you may fould the arch liner and arch on the front but that will depend on actual offset and your suspension set up (esp camber)
The off set of the BMW M3 18" 9J rears that I have is ET26 and the tyres I'm considering are: TOYO R888 265/35/18 @ £912 all in delivered (not fitted)... TOYO R1R 265/35/18 @ £ 868 all in delivered (not fitted)... or Dunlop DZ03G 265/35/18 @ £1100 (auch!) all in delivered (not fitted). Yokohama A048 in the same size are a whopping £1488 !!! not fitted . To be honest none of these deals are as good a deal that you have with your local tyre place of £800 for the same size set of Cups. Just to double check with U, is that £800 inc. VAT delivery & fitting for 4 X Michelin Pilot CUP 265/35/18 s ? Same tyres as recommended for the M3 CSL, just one wheel size smaller ?
BTW, I found a pix of someone on here who run this set up with Dunlop DZ02Gs in 265/35/18, although I see from the pix this CSL has aftermarket suspension and probably runs RACE cambers + the obvious AP racing anchors, which seem to clear the 18" 9J rears OK :thumbs:
shimmy
15-02-2010, 03:14 PM
The off set of the BMW M3 18" 9J rears that I have is ET26 and the tyres I'm considering are: TOYO R888 265/35/18 @ £912 all in delivered (not fitted)... TOYO R1R 265/35/18 @ £ 868 all in delivered (not fitted)... or Dunlop DZ03G 265/35/18 @ £1100 (auch!) all in delivered (not fitted). Yokohama A048 in the same size are a whopping £1488 !!! not fitted . To be honest none of these deals are as good a deal that you have with your local tyre place of £800 for the same size set of Cups. Just to double check with U, is that £800 inc. VAT delivery & fitting for 4 X Michelin Pilot CUP 265/35/18 s ? Same tyres as recommended for the M3 CSL, just one wheel size smaller ?
BTW, I found a pix of someone on here who run this set up with Dunlop DZ02Gs in 265/35/18, although I see from the pix this CSL has aftermarket suspension and probably runs RACE cambers + the obvious AP racing anchors, which seem to clear the 18" 9J rears OK :thumbs:
Matt
i cant get any more 18 inch deals i am afraid. tried today but they can only do a few every so often for me.
Nords and Curly ran the Dg02 and got good deal as the DG03 were coming out i think. I think they are a pretty good alternative to Cups. T888 are good but maybe lack a bit of longevity when they get off (they go off quicker with our heavy cars). Try Pirelli PZero Corsa Race System (they look like the DG02s (see below)
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/pirelli/pi_pzero_corsa_ci2_l.jpg
best thing to do is buy/borrow some old 18 inch 255 or 265 tyres and try them on your front and see if your suspension needs to be modded and by how much
Matt
i cant get any more 18 inch deals i am afraid. tried today but they can only do a few every so often for me.
T888 are good but maybe lack a bit of longevity when they get off (they go off quicker with our heavy cars). Try Pirelli PZero Corsa Race System (they look like the DG02s (see below)
I was going to say the exact same thing to Matt, just be careful with the Toyo R888's, they don't have a very long operating window if you like and do 'go off' quite quickly with heavier cars!
I've heard of people getting at best 2/3 laps out of them before they are past their best!! :banghead:
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 06:02 PM
Matt
i cant get any more 18 inch deals i am afraid. tried today but they can only do a few every so often for me.
Nords and Curly ran the Dg02 and got good deal as the DG03 were coming out i think. I think they are a pretty good alternative to Cups. T888 are good but maybe lack a bit of longevity when they get off (they go off quicker with our heavy cars). Try Pirelli PZero Corsa Race System (they look like the DG02s (see below)
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/pirelli/pi_pzero_corsa_ci2_l.jpg
best thing to do is buy/borrow some old 18 inch 255 or 265 tyres and try them on your front and see if your suspension needs to be modded and by how much
Shame about the 18" Cup deal being so Limited to once in the Blue moon Shim :whistle: I've always got on very well with Dunlops as a road tyre so I hope their TD tyres are even better, especially if I get a good deal on either the older DZ 02s or the replacement DZ03G. Yes I think it was NORDS who had those Dunlops in the pic I enclosed earlier. I've heard KUMOH V70 TD tyres are meant to be surprisingly good, despite happy shopper price tag of £181 all in, per each 265/35/18" :thumbs:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p1899
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 06:04 PM
I was going to say the exact same thing to Matt, just be careful with the Toyo R888's, they don't have a very long operating window if you like and do 'go off' quite quickly with heavier cars!
I've heard of people getting at best 2/3 laps out of them before they are past their best!! :banghead:
Hey Dan...
Are U speaking about the TOYO R888 being less then perfect, from personal experience m8 ? :whistle:
Hey Dan...
Are U speaking about the TOYO R888 being less then perfect, from personal experience m8 ? :whistle:
Near enough mate yes, I have very close personal friends who have extensive use of these tyres with heavier 4x4 car's and the tyre's don't tend to perform for long... :)
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 07:35 PM
Near enough mate yes, I have very close personal friends who have extensive use of these tyres with heavier 4x4 car's and the tyre's don't tend to perform for long... :)
Maybe it's his driving style :hahaha: ;) A good friend of mine has a Race prepared, only just road legal Porsche 928 GT, which is about the same weight as a CSL, on a set of 18" R888 and he swears by them. Over the last 12 months he's been to the Ring, number of times, done a few UK TDs including Bedford and the rears ( 295/30/18 ) are just starting to go :whistle:
karbonkid
15-02-2010, 08:01 PM
I saw these 18s on PH yesterday and was going to take them but had second thoughts. I run R888s (245/ 265) and are a great fast road/ track tyre IMO. Paid £600 a set. Heat up quick but do seem to go off quick too though, but then I do need to compare them to the Cups which I will be testing shortly in the new season.
glendog74
15-02-2010, 08:08 PM
It's pretty well documented both here and elsewhere that R888s aren't the ultimate track tyre for the M3 or CSL.
Michelin PSC are the most expensive but they are supposed to be the best and i go with majority opinion when it comes to choices like that for track days - i have certainly had good experience with PSC and justify the extra £££ over lesser tyres whether 19" or otherwise imho :whistle:
I also use Michelin PS2 as my road tyres for similar justification as they can also cope with some track abuse and are a safe bet when the track day is a wet one. :thumbs:
Tyres are one area that i want the best for my CSL... :smt055
Nords
15-02-2010, 08:28 PM
Shame about the 18" Cup deal being so Limited to once in the Blue moon Shim :whistle: I've always got on very well with Dunlops as a road tyre so I hope their TD tyres are even better, especially if I get a good deal on either the older DZ 02s or the replacement DZ03G. Yes I think it was NORDS who had those Dunlops in the pic I enclosed earlier. I've heard KUMOH V70 TD tyres are meant to be surprisingly good, despite happy shopper price tag of £181 all in, per each 265/35/18" :thumbs:
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p1899
It was indeed. Intrax suspension and APs alround meant that the DZ02 were excellent. Dropped the pressures to 25 psi so they rose to 33 psi hot giving no understeer and excellent stability under brakes (left them on least camber with the adj top mounts, so guessing -1.5 degrees?) They were rear M3 rims alround but Hazy has them now! Going with cups for the few trackdays I get to do!
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 09:50 PM
I saw these 18s on PH yesterday and was going to take them but had second thoughts. I run R888s (245/ 265) and are a great fast road/ track tyre IMO. Paid £600 a set. Heat up quick but do seem to go off quick too though, but then I do need to compare them to the Cups which I will be testing shortly in the new season.
Hey m8... which compound are U running ? medium/hard or hard ? and where did U get your R888 for £600 ??? Best price I got today, from Cam-skills who are meant to be the most competitive for TOYO tires, was over £900 :smt017
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 09:54 PM
It was indeed. Intrax suspension and APs alround meant that the DZ02 were excellent. Dropped the pressures to 25 psi so they rose to 33 psi hot giving no understeer and excellent stability under brakes (left them on least camber with the adj top mounts, so guessing -1.5 degrees?) They were rear M3 rims alround but Hazy has them now! Going with cups for the few trackdays I get to do!
Hey Nords... did U have any issues with the 9J 18" with 265/35 at the front ?
karbonkid
15-02-2010, 10:04 PM
Hey m8... which compound are U running ? medium/hard or hard ? and where did U get your R888 for £600 ??? Best price I got today, from Cam-skills who are meant to be the most competitive for TOYO tires, was over £900 :smt017
Camskill Medium comp £153 - 235/40/18, £158 - 265/35/18 total - £622 delivered. Got puncture on a 1x 235 so replaced with 2x new 245s. Taking into account brought March-April 09, prices have rocketed!
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 10:07 PM
Camskill Medium comp £153 - 235/40/18, £158 - 265/35/18 total - £622 delivered. Got puncture on a 1x 235 so replaced with 2x new 245s. Taking in account these were brought March- April 09 prices have rocketed!
These prices must have been a while ago ? Currently 265/35/18s are £224 inc VAT & delivery :whistle:
Nords
15-02-2010, 10:19 PM
Hey Nords... did U have any issues with the 9J 18" with 265/35 at the front ?
None at all, although only used on the track (the DZ02 are road legal) so no extremes of lock! I suspect you have to be careful where the balancing weights go...
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_triple_apex_1-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_coming_out.jpg
karbonkid
15-02-2010, 10:26 PM
None at all, although only used on the track (the DZ02 are road legal) so no extremes of lock! I suspect you have to be careful where the balancing weights go...
I take it you didn't run spacers on the front Nords, but did you run spacers on rear?
Nords
15-02-2010, 10:30 PM
Nope, std M3 18"s rears all round and bolted straight on using std bolts. No dramas with them and lowered Intrax...
Nords
15-02-2010, 10:38 PM
Does this one show it better?
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_taken_lotus.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_front_close.jpg
daniel
15-02-2010, 10:59 PM
Some more pics here
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=306467
glendog74
15-02-2010, 11:08 PM
Does this one show it better?
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_front_close.jpg
You've had some mileage out of those photos Kier - i see them all over the shop :hahaha:
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 11:16 PM
None at all, although only used on the track (the DZ02 are road legal) so no extremes of lock! I suspect you have to be careful where the balancing weights go...
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_triple_apex_1-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/CSL_coming_out.jpg
That's COOL m8 :thumbs: I'm only going to be using mine on the track too and the Standard 19 Cup wheels with GY F1 for wet track & road use :thumbs: Your SG CSL look fantastically PHAT with those black 18" M3 rears all round :supz: THANX for the pix bud
mattCSLnut
15-02-2010, 11:22 PM
You've had some mileage out of those photos Kier - i see them all over the shop :hahaha:
And why not... very COOL pix :supz: :supz: :supz:
Nords
15-02-2010, 11:22 PM
You've had some mileage out of those photos Kier - i see them all over the shop :hahaha:
Yep, if they are on photobucket, it's easy to drag them back up again. It's the only set of photographer shots I have bought after a car trackday...
shimmy
15-02-2010, 11:27 PM
Nords forgets to mention he has Intrax and adjustable camber plates :thumbs:
I have used the dunlop for the last 4+ years, they are fantastic. I have run them on BBS rims and for the last 3ish years OZ ultraleggra 18', 265 all round, (which look stunning in gunmetal against black car) Intrax and -3 deg all round suit the tyre and the car handling is superb.
As already mentioned Toyo's dont work. I tried really hard years ago to set the car up on these and it felt awful, I used 18' E46 M3 alloys with 235/265 combo, no bite on turn in at all, went off very quickly, they are good on light cars only.
For me, the only 2 tyres to use are cups and dunlops. The price of the new DZ03 is eye watering but i honestly believe it is a step ahead of the cup, it will also last longer, if you can afford/justify it, buy them.
There are deals to be had on 285 (not 265) DZ03's so if anyone is buying new 18' rims think about this, maybe 10' wide, I ran these and sold them to a forum member a few years back.
Other tyres to consider are the Avon ZZR, avaliable in 265 and also Kumho V70. A curve ball tyre is also the Federal SS595RS, may not appeal to tyre snobs but I have experinced this on a E36 track car and they work.....and last.
shimmy
16-02-2010, 10:47 AM
I have used the dunlop for the last 4+ years, they are fantastic. I have run them on BBS rims and for the last 3ish years OZ ultraleggra 18', 265 all round, (which look stunning in gunmetal against black car) Intrax and -3 deg all round suit the tyre and the car handling is superb.
As already mentioned Toyo's dont work. I tried really hard years ago to set the car up on these and it felt awful, I used 18' E46 M3 alloys with 235/265 combo, no bite on turn in at all, went off very quickly, they are good on light cars only.
For me, the only 2 tyres to use are cups and dunlops. The price of the new DZ03 is eye watering but i honestly believe it is a step ahead of the cup, it will also last longer, if you can afford/justify it, buy them.
There are deals to be had on 285 (not 265) DZ03's so if anyone is buying new 18' rims think about this, maybe 10' wide, I ran these and sold them to a forum member a few years back.
Other tyres to consider are the Avon ZZR, avaliable in 265 and also Kumho V70. A curve ball tyre is also the Federal SS595RS, may not appeal to tyre snobs but I have experinced this on a E36 track car and they work.....and last.
cheers Nick, i will take a look at these when my tyre mountain has gone!
glendog74
16-02-2010, 10:53 AM
Do they make Dunlop DZ03 in standard CSL 19" sizes? Off to have a look...
shimmy
16-02-2010, 11:00 AM
Camskill seem to do a range on 265/35/18 to fit my new rims when they come!
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p0
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 11:13 AM
I have used the dunlop for the last 4+ years, they are fantastic. I have run them on BBS rims and for the last 3ish years OZ ultraleggra 18', 265 all round, (which look stunning in gunmetal against black car) Intrax and -3 deg all round suit the tyre and the car handling is superb.
As already mentioned Toyo's dont work. I tried really hard years ago to set the car up on these and it felt awful, I used 18' E46 M3 alloys with 235/265 combo, no bite on turn in at all, went off very quickly, they are good on light cars only.
For me, the only 2 tyres to use are cups and dunlops. The price of the new DZ03 is eye watering but i honestly believe it is a step ahead of the cup, it will also last longer, if you can afford/justify it, buy them.
There are deals to be had on 285 (not 265) DZ03's so if anyone is buying new 18' rims think about this, maybe 10' wide, I ran these and sold them to a forum member a few years back.
Other tyres to consider are the Avon ZZR, avaliable in 265 and also Kumho V70. A curve ball tyre is also the Federal SS595RS, may not appeal to tyre snobs but I have experinced this on a E36 track car and they work.....and last.
I really would like to get the Dunlop DZ03Gs but the best deal I've found so far is £275 all in delivered each (£1100 :smt107 for a set) Incidentally this is the third time I've heard someone recommending the Kumho V70... http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p1899
... and it's the second time I've heard a recommendation for the "Happy Shopper" Federal SS 595 RS which are on a SPECIAL @ camskills at the moment, £ 582.12 for a full set of four, all inc. & delivered ...
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p10782
Decisions, decisions :smt017
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 11:19 AM
Camskill seem to do a range on 265/35/18 to fit my new rims when they come!
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p0
Just incase you're wondering about the TOYO & Yokohama prices for the 265/35/18 , I've made the enquiry yesterday and they are as follow:
Yokohama A048 £ 327 each
TOYO R888 £ 228 each
TOYO R1R £ 217 each ... this is a NEW addition to TOYO range and it's a half way house between T1R and R888
shimmy
16-02-2010, 11:21 AM
Just incase you're wondering about the TOYO & Yokohama prices for the 265/35/18 , I've made the enquiry yesterday and they are as follow:
Yokohama A048 £ 327 each
TOYO R888 £ 228 each
TOYO R1R £ 217 each ... this is a NEW addition to TOYO range and it's a half way house between T1R and R888
so my cups at £800 is looking a good buy! :beer:
i will have to persuade them to keep ordering!
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 11:23 AM
Do they make Dunlop DZ03 in standard CSL 19" sizes? Off to have a look...
It seems not... http://www.mrtyremotorsport.co.uk/product.asp?id=10 :whistle:
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 11:29 AM
so my cups at £800 is looking a good buy! :beer:
i will have to persuade them to keep ordering!
Yeap... like I said yesterday "Fan-bloody-tastic" deal on those 18" Cups ...
Look what mytyres.co.uk want for them... http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=11243630.110.12608&typ=R-102412&ranzahl=4&Breite=265&Herst=Michelin&Quer=35&Felge=18&Speed=W&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=110
If U can extend that deal for me, right now, I have £800 burning a large hole in my pocket :thumbs: It would be nice to get this sorted before the Bedford TD on 22nd :whistle:
shimmy
16-02-2010, 11:56 AM
Yeap... like I said yesterday "Fan-bloody-tastic" deal on those 18" Cups ...
Look what mytyres.co.uk want for them... http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=11243630.110.12608&typ=R-102412&ranzahl=4&Breite=265&Herst=Michelin&Quer=35&Felge=18&Speed=W&weiter=0&kategorie=6&Ang_pro_Seite=15&Transport=P&dsco=110
If U can extend that deal for me, right now, I have £800 burning a large hole in my pocket :thumbs: It would be nice to get this sorted before the Bedford TD on 22nd :whistle:
as i told a few others my supplier does me a personal favour and paniced when i told him i want a few more sets. He wont even supply me with my second set until next month so sorry guys!:blalalala:
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 12:10 PM
as i told a few others my supplier does me a personal favour and paniced when i told him i want a few more sets. He wont even supply me with my second set until next month so sorry guys!:blalalala:
Is he in the business of selling tyres :hahaha: ? He must be making a loss, letting U have them for £800 . A friend of mine who works for KwikFit said it costs them nearly a £1000 to get these 18" CUPs in stock, before any profit :smt017
shimmy
16-02-2010, 12:15 PM
Is he in the business of selling tyres :hahaha: ? He must be making a loss, letting U have them for £800 . A friend of mine who works for KwikFit said it costs them nearly a £1000 to get these 18" CUPs in stock, before any profit :smt017
If Costco can discount a set of 4 by 20-25% work it out for yourself!
dont believe all your friends tell you!
(especially if they drop some £1 coins on the floor):thumbs:
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 12:18 PM
If Costco can discount a set of 4 by 20-25% work it out for yourself!
dont believe all your friends tell you!
(especially if they drop some £1 coins on the floor):thumbs:
Not your kind of "Special" friends Shimmy :gayfight:
shimmy
16-02-2010, 12:22 PM
Not your kind of "Special" friends Shimmy :gayfight:
My 'special' friends are friends for life - OR ELSE!:thumbs:
If anyone is interested to help them decide on tyres I will be at ring end of May.
I will be running back to back dunlops on my 18's and then cups on 19's 265 all round.
Nick.
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 12:35 PM
If anyone is interested to help them decide on tyres I will be at ring end of May.
I will be running back to back dunlops on my 18's and then cups on 19's 265 all round.
Nick.
THANX for the offer Nick but I can't wait that long. I need tyre solutions by Friday for Bedford Autodrome TD on the 22nd Feb ;)
glendog74
16-02-2010, 12:35 PM
If anyone is interested to help them decide on tyres I will be at ring end of May.
I will be running back to back dunlops on my 18's and then cups on 19's 265 all round.
Nick.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts :smokin:
glendog74
16-02-2010, 12:37 PM
THANX for the offer Nick but I can't wait that long. I need tyre solutions by Friday for Bedford Autodrome TD on the 22nd Feb ;)
I wouldn't be too worried if you don't source Cups by then mate - it will only be cold and wet no doubt... :hahaha:
mattCSLnut
16-02-2010, 12:40 PM
I wouldn't be too worried if you don't source Cups by then mate - it will only be cold and wet no doubt... :hahaha:
I guess your right... maybe I should be looking for some winter tyres instead :hahaha:
glendog74
16-02-2010, 12:40 PM
I did a fair bit of research into sourcing Michelin PS Cup tyres last year before the track season started and it seems that Michelin keep a very tight rein on their suppliers and control any discounts given - which are at best minimal to say the least... :banghead:
DuncanR
16-02-2010, 12:46 PM
I need tyre solutions by Friday for Bedford Autodrome TD on the 22nd Feb ;)
I have my solution and its the PS2's that are already on the motor !
Check the weather guys !! ;)
DuncanR
16-02-2010, 12:50 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility of 1 set of 4 tyres NOT necessarily being being the best option? Given that you have a drive axle and a steering axle, is it not beyond the realms of possibility that you could run 2 different types which provide the best solution ?... just a thought from someone who hasnt done a lot of this !:)
shimmy
16-02-2010, 01:05 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility of 1 set of 4 tyres NOT necessarily being being the best option? Given that you have a drive axle and a steering axle, is it not beyond the realms of possibility that you could run 2 different types which provide the best solution ?... just a thought from someone who hasnt done a lot of this !:)
no reason why you cant do that, but imagine the hassle of trialing and getting it right or wrong!!
my best choice for front and back would be;
Front Michelin Cup
Rear Michelin Cup
:thumbs:
DuncanR
16-02-2010, 01:57 PM
imagine the hassle of trialing and getting it right or wrong!!
Shimmy, i think you misunderstood me there mate..... i did mean that the SAME tyre type would be on the SAME axle !! :hahaha:;)
shane@mbtech
16-02-2010, 11:53 PM
I was running yoko a048 last year, got 1 day left in them, then Im on to my dz03, I will give a direct comparison between the 2.
I want to try a set of cups to see what the fuss is about, see whether placebo effect rules or if they are actually good.
The a048 were good, didnt go off for a long time, I felt they lacked a tiny bit of initial turn in bite, although that could be A) my driving B) my geo/susp set up C) the tyres. D) combination of all/some
Ill run the a048 back to back with the dz03g then hopefully ill run a set of cups back to back with the dz03g. See if there is a noticeable difference.
I have tried the 888 on my evo, my business partner ran the a048 at the time, the a048 were far better.
888 only good for 3 laps of oulton park then go off very quickly, tried to compensate with different pressures, different damper settings, different roll bar settings, all to no avail. 3 laps then off.
As for the other toyo inbetween 888 and t1r, well it will be shit. Probably last as long as you do in bed, Mattcsl (2 stroke engine springs to mind):hahaha::hahaha:;)
Stick with dzo3g/a048/ps cup/slicks or road tyres for pussy days, My a048 were fine for a very very wet oulton park. :thumbs:
shane@mbtech
16-02-2010, 11:55 PM
Shimmy, i think you misunderstood me there mate..... i did mean that the SAME tyre type would be on the SAME axle !! :hahaha:;)
I get you duncan , ie ps cup front and dunlop dz03 rears,
It could work yes, who knows.
I might try it this season, got to buy another set of wheels anyway. :thumbs:
shimmy
16-02-2010, 11:57 PM
I want to try a set of cups to see what the fuss is about, see whether placebo effect rules or if they are actually good.
:thumbs:
easy swap after my rims arrive and if we are at the same track!:thumbs:
shane@mbtech
16-02-2010, 11:59 PM
easy swap after my rims arrive and if we are at the same track!:thumbs:
Sounds like a plan, if we do meet at the track, you can try the dz03 then, :thumbs:
shimmy
17-02-2010, 12:01 AM
Sounds like a plan, if we do meet at the track, you can try the dz03 then, :thumbs:
:wanker:
oh alright then! :thumbs::beer:
DuncanR
17-02-2010, 11:41 AM
I really must find out if my set of BBS 18" X 10J's with Cups will fit on the front .... i suspect a gentle rubbing would be the result :wanker: !!
phat///M3
17-02-2010, 02:31 PM
I really must find out if my set of BBS 18" X 10J's with Cups will fit on the front .... i suspect a gentle rubbing would be the result :wanker: !!
Sure they will fit fine mate.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m255/MX5_Dorifto/camber.jpg
mattCSLnut
17-02-2010, 08:23 PM
LOVE :smt055 the camber on that :thumbs: Looks like another Top Gear creation
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m255/MX5_Dorifto/camber.jpg[/QUOTE]
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Fasteddie
17-02-2010, 08:37 PM
lmao :)
Bounce
18-02-2010, 12:51 AM
LOVE :smt055 the camber on that :thumbs: Looks like another Top Gear creation
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m255/MX5_Dorifto/camber.jpg
t[/quote]Is that a milltek exhaust then.:smokin:
mattCSLnut
18-02-2010, 12:53 AM
:hahaha: Must be the NEW MK3 "Super Boom" :whistle:
tIs that a milltek exhaust then.:smokin:[/QUOTE]
shimmy
18-02-2010, 01:31 AM
you have all ruined my loverly thread!
:bigcry:
phat///M3
18-02-2010, 09:41 AM
you have all ruined my loverly thread!
:bigcry:
I blame it on Duncan :thumbs:
mattCSLnut
18-02-2010, 11:04 AM
I blame it on Duncan :thumbs:
We're all guilty to some extent :whistle:
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