Help at Spa/Ring 2010

[shimmy]

just thought as we have a LOAD of cars going to this we could make sure we have some spares and support identified so that not everybody has to bring the whole garage with them (ROB) and that some of the guys not used to trips can have some peace of mind

I will have as usual;

Shimmy
1. jack
2. toolbox ful of bits for changing rims and pads
3. spare AP front and rear pads
4. spare oil
5. jerry cans maybe
6. performance box (if soembody whats it for the RIng!) or to borrow at Spa for a session
7. gaffer tape and cable ties ;)
8. hand moisturiser (Rob again!)
9. probabaly a spare rim with tyre.
10. old coipacks
11. SMG salmon relay


Alexk
1. Jack + tools
2. BMW GT1 diagnostic (in case we have an engine light etc, we can fix it :thumbs:)
3. Chocolate from Switzerland
4. Performance friction race pads (front ones) for AP racing calipers
5. 2 litres of Castrol TWS oil
6. 1 litre of Castrol SRF brake fluid
8. spare fuel filter

DuncanR
1. Video Vbox Lite with 2 cams, easy to set up, bring your own 4gb SD card.
2. Laptop to download data/video from the above if ppl fill their card up !!
3. Spare front pads for AP callipers

[TANKSLAPPER]

Thanks Shimmy, that means I won't have to take mine now ! lol

That's what mates are for..........

[mattCSLnut]

if anybody wants to take any spare Cups for emergency then they can borow a couple of mine if thye have room![/QUOTE]


Can I "borrow" 4 Cups Shimmy ? Make it two fronts and two rears, Pleeeeeez :hahaha: ;)

[shimmy]

Can I "borrow" 4 Cups Shimmy ? Make it two fronts and two rears, Pleeeeeez :hahaha: ;)

if i do change to 18 inch Cups then ill have about 5 sets to sell before May!:smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

if i do change to 18 inch Cups then ill have about 5 sets to sell before May!:smokin:

Keep me in mind... unless I go down the 18" route as well :whistle:

[s.mac]

if i do change to 18 inch Cups

why would you ?

i thought about from a cost point of view but didnt see much of a saving in the tyres :smt085

[Dan]

if i do change to 18 inch Cups then ill have about 5 sets to sell before May!:smokin:

SHOTGUN a good set! :bigcry: :smokin:

Good thread thanks Shim, what's a performance box though? :)

[mattCSLnut]

why would you ?

i thought about from a cost point of view but didnt see much of a saving in the tyres :smt085
Seems there is a considerable £££ difference between 18" rubber and 19" rubber. Genuine M3 18' can be had for peanuts and 18" R888 for around £600 as oppose to £1200 ish for 19" R888. Cups about the same in 19" CSL sizes.

[DuncanR]

what's a performance box though? :)
Something i wish the first wife had !!:hahaha::hahaha:

Datalogger Dan,shimmy hides it between his legs up under the dash !!!
Im thinking of getting one too.

[Bounce]

just thought as we have a LOAD of cars going to this we could make sure we have some spares and support identified so that not everybody has to bring the whole garage with them (ROB) and that some of the guys not used to trips can have some peace of mind

I will have as usual;

1. jack
2. toolbox ful of bits for changing rims and pads
3. spare AP front and rear pads
4. spare oil
5. jerry cans maybe
6. performance box (if soembody whats it for the RIng!) or to borrow at Spa for a session
7. gaffer tape and cable ties ;)
8. hand moisturiser (Rob again!)

probabaly a spare rim with tyre.

if anybody wants to take any spare Cups for emergency then they can borow a couple of mine if thye have room!Have you got some spare underpants[not used] you could bring Shim,this being my first ring trip,as i only have the one pair.:smokin:

[s.mac]

Seems there is a considerable £££ difference between 18" rubber and 19" rubber. Genuine M3 18' can be had for peanuts and 18" R888 for around £600 as oppose to £1200 ish for 19" R888. Cups about the same in 19" CSL sizes.

R888 aren't meant to be that good on a CSL, so little difference between the 18 / 19 cups

[mattCSLnut]

R888 aren't meant to be that good on a CSL, so little difference between the 18 / 19 cups


I'm willing to experiment and find out for myself ;) They can't be completely useless. I've experienced "Flatout's" Z4M Coupe (with 18" R888s) that beged to differ :whistle: and a m8 of mine runs a Porker 928 GT (the Manual one) Race car with a set of 18" R888, with great success.

[alexk]

Guys, let's not feck up the nice thread.
Mods, can you please seperate the posts with the tires etc and leave the pertinent ones here ?

I will have with me :
1. Jack + tools
2. BMW GT1 diagnostic (in case we have an engine light etc, we can fix it :thumbs:)
3. Chocolate from Switzerland
4. Performance friction race pads (front ones) for AP racing calipers (I got them on the side... so no worries)
5. 2 litres of Castrol TWS oil
6. 1 litre of Castrol SRF brake fluid
8. spare fuel filter

I am the Swiss CSL, easy to spot (also the fastest one, in theee woooorlddddd)

[shimmy]

Have you got some spare underpants[not used] you could bring Shim,this being my first ring trip,as i only have the one pair.:smokin:

Yep but they might not fit you:blalalala:

[shimmy]

Guys, let's not feck up the nice thread.
Mods, can you please seperate the posts with the tires etc and leave the pertinent ones here ?




it's ok I'll update my first post with everybodies shit!

Who's bringing the hookers!?

[TANKSLAPPER]

it's ok I'll update my first post with everybodies shit!

Who's bringing the hookers!?


Don't worry they are already there ! ! !

[Bounce]

Don't worry they are already there ! ! !Are they cheaper than a lap of the ring.:whistle::whistle::whistle:

[anissut]

if i do change to 18 inch Cups then ill have about 5 sets to sell before May!:smokin:

I might take a set mate if you sell them. Special discount for being on so many forums together? :gayfight:

[glendog74]

Baggsy a set of Cups Shim! :thumbs:

Dazza may be able to help with the hookers? :smt047

[shimmy]

I might take a set mate if you sell them. Special discount for being on so many forums together? :gayfight:

you do know these Cups are 'Shimmy's Cups' and hence sell for a premium WELL OVER list price - i mean think of the lap times you can quote your tyres have done at various circuits :thumbs:

and dont mention forums to my wife if you ever meet her Anis!

[shimmy]

why would you ?

i thought about from a cost point of view but didnt see much of a saving in the tyres :smt085

Seems there is a considerable £££ difference between 18" rubber and 19" rubber. Genuine M3 18' can be had for peanuts and 18" R888 for around £600 as oppose to £1200 ish for 19" R888. Cups about the same in 19" CSL sizes.

well my original thought was that as i have a stack of 19 inch Cups i might as well get new lighter stiffer 19 inch rims. But the more i look and looking at some recommendations like Thorney on the 18 inch Rays i reckon i can get the rims about £400 cheaper, 1kg per corner lighter and stiffer on 18 inch rims over 19 inch rims and the Cup tyres (dont forget they will be 265 all round) are adding up to about £100+ cheaper a set. so currently if they are availabel in time i will be going 18 inch - but nothing for certain:smokin:


R888 aren't meant to be that good on a CSL, so little difference between the 18 / 19 cups

correct:thumbs:


I'm willing to experiment and find out for myself ;) They can't be completely useless. I've experienced "Flatout's" Z4M Coupe (with 18" R888s) that beged to differ :whistle: and a m8 of mine runs a Porker 928 GT (the Manual one) Race car with a set of 18" R888, with great success.

I have seen R888 on road M3s and GT3s and the main difeences seem to be that;

1.R888 are better in the standing wet stuff
2.R888 are only very slightly cheaper now
3. R888 do overheat quicker on road cars
4. Cups are generally slightly better and grippier in dry conditions

Item 3 is important. R888 on a heavy car like the M3/CSL at over 1400kg + driver seem to go off (overheat) after say 3-4 hot laps whereas Cups take a few laps more. Overheating means your grip goes away and the tyres loose lifespan. Now this can be managed but 3-4 laps isnt very many!

R888 seem to work much better on slightly lighter cars, not sure how heavy the Z4M is but race cars tend to be circa 1100Kg max

[glendog74]

R888 are also a rather noisy road tyre.

[DuncanR]

Who's bringing the hookers!?

I will check, but I dont think my Auntie and sisters can do that week-end !!:thumbs:

[DuncanR]

if you ever meet her Anis!

Spelling mistake Shim ??:hahaha:

[mattCSLnut]

well my original thought was that as i have a stack of 19 inch Cups i might as well get new lighter stiffer 19 inch rims. But the more i look and looking at some recommendations like Thorney on the 18 inch Rays i reckon i can get the rims about £400 cheaper, 1kg per corner lighter and stiffer on 18 inch rims over 19 inch rims and the Cup tyres (dont forget they will be 265 all round) are adding up to about £100+ cheaper a set. so currently if they are availabel in time i will be going 18 inch - but nothing for certain:smokin:




correct:thumbs:




I have seen R888 on road M3s and GT3s and the main difeences seem to be that;

1.R888 are better in the standing wet stuff
2.R888 are only very slightly cheaper now
3. R888 do overheat quicker on road cars
4. Cups are generally slightly better and grippier in dry conditions

Item 3 is important. R888 on a heavy car like the M3/CSL at over 1400kg + driver seem to go off (overheat) after say 3-4 hot laps whereas Cups take a few laps more. Overheating means your grip goes away and the tyres loose lifespan. Now this can be managed but 3-4 laps isnt very many!

R888 seem to work much better on slightly lighter cars, not sure how heavy the Z4M is but race cars tend to be circa 1100Kg max

All interesting stuff Shimmy , received with THANX however calling a CSL "Heavy" sounds a touch mad (remember it's a 4 seater ) + Z4M s are a bit heavier (1495 kg unladen, against CSLs 1460 kg) for a base , no speck car, however most Z4M have Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth, electric this & that which tips them well over the 1500 kg, with ease. That's "Heavy" for a 2 seater, no disrespect to the Z4M owners, or their car which I happen to like.

[glendog74]

For track work purposes, most modern 'M's are considered heavy; CSL included. They all work their tyres (and indeed brakes) hard in standard form.

[DuncanR]

I will be bringing my GoPro Motorsports Hero Wide 5MP Camera with me, the small waterproof one, so not much sound quality im afraid. If anyone wants to record a lap ..discretely !!:whistle: they can borrow it, would suggest that you take a PAX with you, get through barrier first, feign injury over to the side just past the cones and then plonk it on the dash/screen, and take it off again after the gantry somewhere :thumbs:
As i have no rear seats in mine, I have a bit of space spare for tyres/wheels, I have cups on the set of BBS wheels i have, size 265 35 18
wheels are BBS type RG773H 10J X 18 with 25 mm offset. They fit on the rear of mine with a 10mm spacer fine, anyone know if they will fit on the front though? from what I have seen on here it may be doubtful, and Im not convinced about doing it due to the increased loading etc. If i take 2 of the BBS rims with cups, they can be spares for my rear, or perhaps anyone elses with 10mm spacers, WONDER WHAT RUNNING WITH cUPS ON REAR AND ps2'S ON FRONT WILL BE LIKE !bollox caps again, thought i had got over that ! sorry. Alternatively, I could swap my 4 x PS2's on 19" CSL rims for new Cups,and take a chance on it being wet, and take 2 x 18" BBS rims with Cups, and a couple of 19" PS2's.....the question is, will I look uncool running 2 x 18" BBS rims on the rear with 2 x CSL rims on the front ??...... bollocks I forgot what I was going to say now !!:bigcry:

[anissut]

Spelling mistake Shim ??:hahaha:

:hahaha:, not bad at all.

[TANKSLAPPER]

Duncan, your nuts ! ! :smt055

[DuncanR]

Duncan, your nuts ! ! :smt055

What about 'em ??? my nuts that is??

[glendog74]

Duncan, your nuts ! ! :smt055

Special? :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

All interesting stuff Shimmy , received with THANX however calling a CSL "Heavy" sounds a touch mad (remember it's a 4 seater ) + Z4M s are a bit heavier (1495 kg unladen, against CSLs 1460 kg) for a base , no speck car, however most Z4M have Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth, electric this & that which tips them well over the 1500 kg, with ease. That's "Heavy" for a 2 seater, no disrespect to the Z4M owners, or their car which I happen to like.


If the z4m was good after 3 laps on the 888 then you were driving it like pussies.

888 are ok but go off after 3 ish hard laps, very quickly.

They may be ok i my m3 now its lighter than a csl.

Ill have to try them.

[mattCSLnut]

For track work purposes, most modern 'M's are considered heavy; CSL included. They all work their tyres (and indeed brakes) hard in standard form.

"Health & Safety" is to blame for that I guess :bigcry:. Over the years all cars have grown in size and inevitably put on weight however they have also increased in power :thumbs: . I know it would be NICE to have a 1000 kg CSL like the original E30 m3 but with the "safety in mind" way the E46 is constructed, it's going to be hard work to achieve that for a "Fast Road/Track" M3 CSL. The current M3 convertible or the M6/M5 are heavy so in relative terms the M3 CSL should be though of as a medium light weight :beer:

[TANKSLAPPER]

my m3 now its lighter than a csl.



Don't forget your beer belly.....:blalalala:

[DuncanR]

Don't forget your beer belly.....:blalalala:

I will bring one of those with me, you are all welcome to keep it in good nick and topped up !!!:hahaha::hahaha::thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

Don't forget your beer belly.....:blalalala:

Yeh weighing a small 108kg myself makes all my weight saving worthless.

I think I need to chop my other arm off and steer with my dick, :birdman:, to give me some value for money.

NO beer gut for me, although I could do with trimming up, I eat like a bear over the winter:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[shimmy]

All interesting stuff Shimmy , received with THANX however calling a CSL "Heavy" sounds a touch mad (remember it's a 4 seater ) + Z4M s are a bit heavier (1495 kg unladen, against CSLs 1460 kg) for a base , no speck car, however most Z4M have Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth, electric this & that which tips them well over the 1500 kg, with ease. That's "Heavy" for a 2 seater, no disrespect to the Z4M owners, or their car which I happen to like.

CSL is definitely in the HEAVY range, :thumbs:

[mattCSLnut]

CSL is definitely in the HEAVY range, :thumbs:
So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ? :whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ? :whistle:

Cruise liner

[AlexGTT]

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ? :whistle:

Super heavy weights. :whistle:

[glendog74]

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ? :whistle:

Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks & the not quite as heavy British Bulldog? :clown:

[Curly]

well my original thought was that as i have a stack of 19 inch Cups i might as well get new lighter stiffer 19 inch rims. But the more i look and looking at some recommendations like Thorney on the 18 inch Rays i reckon i can get the rims about £400 cheaper, 1kg per corner lighter and stiffer on 18 inch rims over 19 inch rims and the Cup tyres (dont forget they will be 265 all round) are adding up to about £100+ cheaper a set. so currently if they are availabel in time i will be going 18 inch - but nothing for ce




correct:thumbs:




I have seen R888 on road M3s and GT3s and the main difeences seem to be that;

1.R888 are better in the standing wet stuff
2.R888 are only very slightly cheaper now
3. R888 do overheat quicker on road cars
4. Cups are generally slightly better and grippier in dry conditions

Item 3 is important. R888 on a heavy car like the M3/CSL at over 1400kg + driver seem to go off (overheat) after say 3-4 hot laps whereas Cups take a few laps more. Overheating means your grip goes away and the tyres loose lifespan. Now this can be managed but 3-4 laps isnt very many!

R888 seem to work much better on slightly lighter cars, not sure how heavy the Z4M is but race cars tend to be circa 1100Kg max

might just keep the runflats on now:whistle:

[shimmy]

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ? :whistle:#

believe me it is heavy for track work - too heavy really

the rest are just blubber buckets:smokin:

[shimmy]

might just keep the runflats on now:whistle:

always nice to have the excuse handy!

[Curly]

Got the ten finger glove for that;)

[alexk]

Anyone else "helping" ?

:thumbs:

[DazBlackCSL]

Baggsy a set of Cups Shim! :thumbs:

Dazza may be able to help with the hookers? :smt047
:whistle::whistle:

[DuncanR]

Anyone else "helping" ?

:thumbs:
Good shout Alex, getting back to the real meaning of the thread I will also bring the following which anyone on here can borrow :-

1. Video Vbox Lite with 2 cams, easy to set up, bring your own min 4gb SD card if you fancy it.
2. Laptop to download data/video from the above if ppl fill their card up !! Can burn/email info on return to UK.
3. Spare front pads for PF discs when I can sort out the part numbers which im sure will be on here somewhere.

[Yanto]

I'll have some spare (used but lively) standard brakes (F&R) when I eventually get these Pagids fitted !

[DazBlackCSL]

Good shout Alex, getting back to the real meaning of the thread

So no need for me to bring them :whistle:

[DuncanR]

So no need for me to bring them :whistle:

Get real Daz !! that serious im not !! :supz:

[northernjim]

I;ll be bringing some axle stands, and a jack along with assorted basic tools If anyone needs to use them:beer:


Good shout Alex, getting back to the real meaning of the thread I will also bring the following which anyone on here can borrow :-

1. Video Vbox Lite with 2 cams, easy to set up, bring your own min 4gb SD card if you fancy it.
2. Laptop to download data/video from the above if ppl fill their card up !! Can burn/email info on return to UK.
3. Spare front pads for PF discs when I can sort out the part numbers which im sure will be on here somewhere.


Duncan I'd love to borrow your vbox gadget for a session:smt055:smt055

will an 8Gb mini SD card work too?:smokin:

[DuncanR]

Duncan I'd love to borrow your vbox gadget for a session:smt055:smt055

will an 8Gb mini SD card work too?:smokin:
No probs Jim, just suggested 4gb as a minimum mate, bring as big as you like its your petrol !! :hahaha:

[northernjim]

No probs Jim, just suggested 4gb as a minimum mate, bring as big as you like its your petrol !! :hahaha:


:smokin: :beer:


right I am off to find out what a vbox lite is :clown: :hahaha:

[shimmy]

right I am off to find out what a vbox lite is :clown: :hahaha:


VBOx lite is something like this!

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/black-dildo.jpg

[AlexGTT]

VBOx lite is something like this!

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/black-dildo.jpg

Is that the tool you're bringing Shim! Glad I'm not sharing a room.:whistle:

[northernjim]

VBOx lite is something like this!

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/black-dildo.jpg

are you trying to pull the wool over my northern eyes?

that just looks like a fancy gear knob to me:whistle:

[Dan]

I'll have some spare (used but lively) standard brakes (F&R) when I eventually get these Pagids fitted !

Yep me too mate :thumbs:

I;ll be bringing some axle stands, and a jack along with assorted basic tools If anyone needs to use them:beer:


I always take a decent tool kit, jack and a torque wrench, anyone is welcome to borrow and bits they need :)

[Bounce]

Ive got fook all,so ill bring the sandwiches.;)

[shimmy]

Ive got fook all,so ill bring the sandwiches.;)

after lunch (only lunch available trackside) last year was 52 Euros your sandwiches could be the biggest help around:bigcry:


seriously though it might be a good thing to try to get the Tiergarten to do us a Monday packed lunch:thumbs:

[Bounce]

after lunch (only lunch available trackside) last year was 52 Euros your sandwiches could be the biggest help around:bigcry:


seriously though it might be a good thing to try to get the Tiergarten to do us a Monday packed lunch:thumbs:Can we get a big blanket and lay it out on the grass.:gayfight:

[shimmy]

Can we get a big blanket and lay it out on the grass.:gayfight:


fecking west country queen :thumbs::beer:

[shane@mbtech]

after lunch (only lunch available trackside) last year was 52 Euros your sandwiches could be the biggest help around:bigcry:


seriously though it might be a good thing to try to get the Tiergarten to do us a Monday packed lunch:thumbs:


Cold Heinz tomatoe soup out the tin will do me;)

52 euro:whistle: for lunch, Fook me who cooks it, Gordon Ramsay

[shimmy]

ive got some old coilpacks spare so ill bring them just in case :thumbs:

[DuncanR]

Put me down for a torque wrench as well Shim..... no ... Im not bringing one..I will need one !!!:thumbs:...just kidding, im bringing mine if ppl are into doing the wheel studs up proper like !

[shimmy]

bringing mine if ppl are into doing the wheel studs up proper like !


some do and some just like to live dangerously:smokin:

[azrael]

I like to after I found BMW had forgotten to do one wheel up whilst at a track day. Bolts could be turned by hand

[alexk]

Alexk
1. Jack + tools
2. BMW GT1 diagnostic (in case we have an engine light etc, we can fix it :thumbs:)
3. Chocolate from Switzerland
4. Performance friction race pads (front ones) for AP racing calipers
5. 2 litres of Castrol TWS oil
6. 1 litre of Castrol SRF brake fluid
8. spare fuel filter


shimmy, remove my stuff from this list as I won't attend the event.

thanks

[mole]

shimmy, remove my stuff from this list as I won't attend the event.

thanks

No longer coming alex?

[shimmy]

shimmy, remove my stuff from this list as I won't attend the event.

thanks


:smt022why?

[DazBlackCSL]

after lunch (only lunch available trackside) last year was 52 Euros your sandwiches could be the biggest help around:bigcry:


seriously though it might be a good thing to try to get the Tiergarten to do us a Monday packed lunch:thumbs:

I reckon they will sort that for us, we can have a word with the italian dude who runs the pistenklaus, top guy and im sure for not many €€ they will do a full set of sarnies for us all, I will speak to him saturday eve and arrange it :thumbs:

Either that or pass some €€ Jochen's way, and im sure maria will do the honours :whistle:

Jochen PM coming your way :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

:smt022why?


You called his wife a porn star with big tits:whistle:


Fuck that may have been the other alex:banghead::banghead:
too many alex's:hahaha:

[Bounce]

You called his wife a porn star with big tits:whistle::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:,its your fault Shim.:whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

You called his wife a porn star with big tits:whistle:


Fuck that may have been the other alex:banghead::banghead:
too many alex's:hahaha:

I must of missed that thread http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0059.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-indifferent-smileys.php)

[TMAQ]

You called his wife a porn star with big tits:whistle:


is that a bad thing ;):whistle:

[TMAQ]

I must of missed that thread http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0059.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-indifferent-smileys.php)

think thats the thread you started Daz :hahaha:

[DazBlackCSL]

think thats the thread you stated Daz :hahaha:

Oh that one :hahaha:

Ok heading back now :whistle:

Missed that, and alex has cancelled, now !!

[AlexGTT]

You called his wife a porn star with big tits:whistle:


Fuck that may have been the other alex:banghead::banghead:
too many alex's:hahaha:

So that's what my wife was on about! She mentioned something about a few "movies" she was in a while ago! She said nothing special, just arty flicks. :whistle::hahaha:

[shimmy]

! She said nothing special, just arty flicks. :whistle::hahaha:


Not arty, just dirty :thumbs: