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karbonkid
25-01-2010, 10:24 AM
Im aware of the Cup+ being designed for the more wet conditions, but whats the visual differences between the Cup/ Cup NO/ Cup+?
shimmy
25-01-2010, 11:24 AM
there are two types of Michelin Cup tyre which have two different patterns and. rumoured. compounds;
Michelin Cup and Michelin Cup+
You can easily see the difference in the tyre pattern below(Cup left, Cup+ right). The Cup has a dual band thread and compaund where the outer is there for dry traction and the inner for wet traction. You can see the Cup+ has more grooves and therefore less rubber surface than a comparative Cup tyre. Also the extra grooves give more tyre movement and hence less heat and more lateral wear but better wet grip.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/CupandCupcomparison.jpg
I have not seen it confirmed but the Cup+ is rumoured to have not as grippy rubber compounds (more akin to PS2).
The N0 or N1 prefixes just show they are Porsche Homologated tyres and ok for use on funny cars with big weights at the back! Strange thing is that michelin dont seem to add the + to the tyre when they list the N0 and N1 tyres even though they are Cup+ pattern, look at the stickers on the Cup pictures above, both just say Cup!
http://www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk/en/car-4x4-van/tyre-sizes/20070312100263.html
karbonkid
25-01-2010, 11:46 AM
10 out of 10 Shimmeister! :thumbs: Worth buying a set of 'going cheap' 235/35/19 Cups NO?
shimmy
25-01-2010, 12:03 PM
10 out of 10 Shimmeister! :thumbs: Worth buying a set of 'going cheap' 235/35/19 Cups NO?
I don't use Cup+ as they are a compromise but whether they are Cup or Cup+ if they are a bargain go for it.
alexk
25-01-2010, 05:48 PM
cup+ are gay tires :gayfight:
thank you please
PS : I am only joking
Highmast
25-01-2010, 06:34 PM
l'll give you impression after run both set cup and cup+, i'll run in mars with cup at dijon (a killertrack for your left outside tyre) and i have found a second set cup+ to try, maybe on my car for spa when first will be dead...
lucky, i will use :gayfight:tyres during a meeting with a lot of:gayfight:...:blalalala:
For cup, michelin explain you can re-cut them for wet conditions. hence, i'm not sure cup+ is specially design for wet or similar but sure design for porsche, a car with less weight on the front...
i don't know exactly how the result will be on my CSL, but one thing is that it's easier to find few used tyres. more, porsche wear out flat not only on the outside like our bmw.
s.mac
25-01-2010, 06:34 PM
I gave kwik fit a call today to see if cups were part of their, buy all 4 and get 25% off
they weren't :whistle:
shimmy
25-01-2010, 07:16 PM
I gave kwik fit a call today to see if cups were part of their, buy all 4 and get 25% off
they weren't :whistle:
i may be selling a load of mine soon if i back track and get 18 inch rims
s.mac
25-01-2010, 07:40 PM
i may be selling a load of mine soon if i back track and get 18 inch rims
Ive got a set in the garage that are about 2.5mm but wasn't sure if they would do a full ring / spa weekend
I don't care if they are bald when finished as long as they get me home...
if kiwk fit were doing 25% off it would have been worth it
as they weren't I bought a set of AST sportline 2 suspension :whistle:
Mark CSL
25-01-2010, 10:55 PM
I have tracked both types of cups and the cup+ is more like a PS2 it was a good second slower round knockhill than a Cup also you could feel more grip with the Cup :thumbs:
s.mac
26-01-2010, 03:51 PM
Mark do you think mine will last a full weekend ? 1/2 worn
shimmy
26-01-2010, 04:10 PM
Mark do you think mine will last a full weekend ? 1/2 worn
OF COURSE THEY WILL - just have to watch out for heavy rain on the way home! :thumbs:
TANKSLAPPER
26-01-2010, 04:58 PM
Shimmy normally limps home anyway LOL
shimmy
26-01-2010, 06:04 PM
Shimmy normally limps home anyway LOL
:bigcry:
Nords
26-01-2010, 11:15 PM
i may be selling a load of mine soon if i back track and get 18 inch rims
Give us a shout, I could do with a couple of rears!
shimmy
26-01-2010, 11:34 PM
Give us a shout, I could do with a couple of rears!
havent got Gt3RS sizes :hahaha:
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