Spec to Sell?

[kbird]

I may sell my CSL to fund a Race Car for next year likely to be a 330i as I can't run over 3000cc in the Championship I'm looking at. My question is, is it best to sell the car with Intrax and AP's fitted (the AP kit is uprated from the 'standard' AP kit) or put back to standard and sell/keep the parts for the Race Car or sell as is with the standard parts in a box? Thanks

[s.mac]

I would say it depends on if you can be arsed to put back to standard.

The parts won't or I don't think will fit a 330i

You may get a bit more for the car with APs on.
The suspension I think I would take off, a potential buyer would probably prefer standard suspension, especially if they have done their homework and seen the problems that can occur fitting coilovers to an E46 M3 / CSL
I'm sure a track nut would take them off your hands pretty quickly.

[shimmy]

i would get it as close to OEM as you can and sell parts seperately.

AP kit i would maybe leave on but clearly price accordingly with uplift of sold WITH.

Def get a/m suspension, exhaust, top mounts, seats, off as you are likely to attract more buyers and make more money back BUT more hassle for you. (only relevant if you have the stock parts of course)

[_Nathan_]

What series? :)

[kbird]

What series? :)

Castle Combe Saloon Car Championship

[Thorney]

Put to standard and sell parts for sure

[kbird]

Thanks all, standard it is!

[glendog74]

I say don't sell the CSL Kevin... :whistle:

[_Nathan_]

I say race the CSL :thumbs:

[Andyk]

Def turn back standard as parts are worth more separate.

[kbird]

Still thinking about selling to fund this years racing, what do you think the Intrax and brakes are worth if I take them off?

Also if I sell and left on the Intrax/APs and didn't repaint the stone chipped bumper, what do think its worth?

Its done 51000 miles FSH with recent Inspection II by Simpson Motorsport. Options are, Xenos, a/c, BMW CD/radio, Tracker. Wheels just fully refurbed by Lepson Swindon, Good Cups, Sapphire Black. Very good condition other than the stone chipped bumper. Never re mapped, standard exhaust.

What do you think for a quickish sale? I'm not greedy!!

Thanks

[anissut]

Around 25k?

What intrax do you have on it?

[kbird]

1K2's

[mattCSLnut]

Still thinking about selling to fund this years racing, what do you think the Intrax and brakes are worth if I take them off?

Also if I sell and left on the Intrax/APs and didn't repaint the stone chipped bumper, what do think its worth?

Its done 51000 miles FSH with recent Inspection II by Simpson Motorsport. Options are, Xenos, a/c, BMW CD/radio, Tracker. Wheels just fully refurbed by Lepson Swindon, Good Cups, Sapphire Black. Very good condition other than the stone chipped bumper. Never re mapped, standard exhaust.

What do you think for a quickish sale? I'm not greedy!!

Thanks

IMHO, for a quick sale of your SB CSL as it is (with the TD toys) £23 995 will see it go quickly, but then again Jan/Feb are usually a bad time of the year to be selling cars (though great time to buy one :thumbs:) Then again CSL is no ordinary car so may not be affected by the usuall winter gloom.
Give it a go and U never know your luck. ATB

[M5 Powered]

Standard is your best option when selling these.

You automatically eliminate buyers by leaving the track toys on, mainly because, it gives the impression the car has had a hard life (even if you only did a few per year).

Furthermore, people don't want the perceived hassle of trying to insure a modified car, even though in reality, a good insurance firm won't be too bothered.

Best

Jonathan

[shimmy]

Standard is your best option when selling these.

You automatically eliminate buyers by leaving the track toys on, mainly because, it gives the impression the car has had a hard life (even if you only did a few per year).

Furthermore, people don't want the perceived hassle of trying to insure a modified car, even though in reality, a good insurance firm won't be too bothered.

Best

Jonathan

agree

i think youll get very little difference in price for standard against modified car (depending upon how many people are looking granted)

i personally would sell car as standard maybe with APS on only and sell the rest separately

Intrax worth i reckon around £1200-1500 if in decent condition - you may wish to get it refurbed

[mattCSLnut]

Standard is your best option when selling these.

You automatically eliminate buyers by leaving the track toys on, mainly because, it gives the impression the car has had a hard life (even if you only did a few per year).

Furthermore, people don't want the perceived hassle of trying to insure a modified car, even though in reality, a good insurance firm won't be too bothered.

Best

Jonathan
I hear what you're saying but that would apply more, to lesser cars then the CSL. At the end of the day U only need one person to buy the car... the RIGHT person :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

agree

i think youll get very little difference in price for standard against modified car (depending upon how many people are looking granted)

i personally would sell car as standard maybe with APS on only and sell the rest separately

Intrax worth i reckon around £1200-1500 if in decent condition - you may wish to get it refurbed
Unless U can do the spanner work yourself, it's additional cost removing all the TD toys which will have to come from somewhere. Are U "gays" :gayfight: saying that you would turn this CSL down if it was sold with both the Intrax & APs for £24 000 ?!?!. As long as the CSL has Full BMW Service History and some BMW Warranty, I see these as a selling point, especially on a CSL :thumbs:

[glendog74]

If TD toys were left on, personally it would be a big plus point for me knowing what my indended use for the car would be if i was looking to buy Kevin's car.

However, you automatically rule out a big percentage of potential buyers by leaving the TD toys on the car as most buyers are looking for a clean, unmolested example - preferably with low miles. That's exactly what i was looking for when hunting for my CSL - now look at what my car has become 2 years on - with £££'s spent on it turning it into a more track focussed car since then!

I take Matt's point about the CSL being a specialist car sought after by 'enthusiast' buyers, but you will always get the casual buyer who probably doesn't know too much about CSLs come along and fancy buying one. I only wanted a nice 20k standard M3 when looking - and i ended up buying a 32k CSL instead!

I would only leave the APs on if anything, but if you have the time then it's probably best to return to OEM standard.

Ultimately, i still say don't sell Kevin! You can get a nice early E46 330 for just 5k or less these days :whistle:

Rob :beer:

[Dan]

However, you automatically rule out a big percentage of potential buyers by leaving the TD toys on the car as most buyers are looking for a clean, unmolested example - preferably with low miles.
Rob :beer:
I have to agree with this, as most people know having bought mine quite recently this is EXACTLY what I specified for myself when purchasing a CSL!

I've always bought slightly modded cars and personally wanted to see how good a standard one was, in this case a CSL, then upgrade at a later date and feel the benefit for myself rather than just accept that 'that's how it is' so to speak :)

I've dropped you a PM kbird, if you take off the AP's and the price is right I might be interested and get the ball rolling for you :)

[shimmy]

kbird

if youve got a SS exhaust you can write your own cheque!!!!!!!!!!

[s.mac]

if you take off the AP's and the price is right I might be interested and get the ball rolling for you :)

I wouldnt buy a 2nd hand set of APs unless they are serviced by AP 1st and given the all clear ;)

John @ Questmead had a full set of red APs front and rear that were on a car (M3) for no time at all. I'm sure they would be up for a deal if they still have them ;)

[shimmy]

I wouldnt buy a 2nd hand set of APs unless they are serviced by AP 1st and given the all clear ;)

John @ Questmead had a full set of red APs front and rear that were on a car (M3) for no time at all. I'm sure they would be up for a deal if they still have them ;)

if you know the history they should be ok but obviously priced according to age and condition

servicing them is pretty straight forward and most specialists can do it - not just AP

[mattCSLnut]

I have to agree with this, as most people know having bought mine quite recently this is EXACTLY what I specified for myself when purchasing a CSL!

I've always bought slightly modded cars and personally wanted to see how good a standard one was, in this case a CSL, then upgrade at a later date and feel the benefit for myself rather than just accept that 'that's how it is' so to speak :)

I've dropped you a PM kbird, if you take off the AP's and the price is right I might be interested and get the ball rolling for you :)


Majority of M3 CSLs out there FOR SALE are in Standard trim so there is plenty of choice. There are very few moded M3 CSL FOR SALE so it's not all bad. I think DunkanR & I are both living proof that there are "Enthusiasts" :thumbs: out there wanting to buy modified CSLs :drool: some slightly more than others :whistle:

[DuncanR]

I think DunkanR & I are both living proof that there are "Enthusiasts" :thumbs: out there wanting to buy modified CSLs :drool: some slightly more than others :whistle:

What ??? dont they all come like mine then ?????:whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

What ??? dont they all come like mine then ?????:whistle:
Yeah... Sorry Duncan :hahaha: of course they do :whistle:

[Paul Eggleton]

If i was buying one now i would go for the modified version!

[NZ_M3]

Whatever you do, just don't advertise one price for the car with the 'extras' and another price without - you'll simply get buyers wanting you to do the 'extras' at the no frills pricing.

But my vote is to turn the car back to stock standard - larger market I believe for a stock standard car than one with slight modifications (also, however unjustified, people will tend to attribute 'tracked extensively' with race suspension and big brake kits - i.e. thrashed).

[kbird]

A few photos taken today for your interest, should I sell it?

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[danp]

I'd never recommend someone sells a CSL unless they really have to!

Nice pad, is that yours also?

[kbird]

Home Sweet Home!

[mattCSLnut]

Very sweet ride (despite second choice colour ;) )... DON'T !!! sell it, unless U absolutely, positivelly have to (beens on toast, if necessary) IMHO I predict that in six months time, the CSL prices will rise, and keep on rising, E30 Evo Sport style. :whistle:

[DuncanR]

should I sell it?

No mate, raffle it on here to your mates !!:hahaha:;)

The forum is riddled with posts on how people have sold their CSL and wanted it back within the week !!! Think long and hard ! Use the force !;)

[kbird]

Very sweet ride (despite second choice colour ;) )... DON'T !!! sell it, unless U absolutely, positivelly have to (beens on toast, if necessary) IMHO I predict that in six months time, the CSL prices will rise, and keep on rising, E30 Evo Sport style. :whistle:

Like this? Shouldn't have sold it! and it was the right colour!!

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[mattCSLnut]

Like this? Shouldn't have sold it! and it was the right colour!!

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Yes !!! just like that :thumbs: Don't make the same mistake twice ;) You'll miss the CSL more then the Evo Sport

[mattCSLnut]

Speaking of E30 M3 Evo Sports ... it's not often one walks into their BMW Main Dealer to find a 20 year old M3 siting inside and available FOR SALE :shock:, but it's exactly what I found last week @ Murketts Huntington when I collected my M3 CSL, after some warranty work. It's a one owner car (not to be confused with one previous owner car) The chap who's selling this one, purchased it NEW. It's an immaculate :drool: fully loaded, as in full black leather, Premium BMW sound system, A/C, Car phone, etc, etc ... Full BMW service History with just 80 000 ish genuine miles on the clock. It's a museum piece in my eye but stunning example never the less... asking price of £35 000 !!! That's serious CSL money and I know which one I would buy but this does demonstrate what RARE BMW M cars end up fetching, provided they have been cherished from day one. :thumbs: I predict it's where CSL will end up too. :beer:

[DuncanR]

mmmm reminds me, I must get my seats , and internal trim, oh , and suspension back off Tom Schirmer !!:hahaha:

[NZ_M3]

That EVO Sports :smt055:smt055:smt055:smt055

Although for the money I'd buy another CSL :thumbs::supz:

[mattCSLnut]

That EVO Sports :smt055:smt055:smt055:smt055

Although for the money I'd buy another CSL :thumbs::supz:


Same here... another CSL... maybe even a Black one :hahaha: to have one of each colour :thumbs: but that Evo Sport :smt055 it's spotless and ripe for a serious M-collector