CSL concept engine cover [Archive]

alexk

20-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Hi guys,

The CSL concept car had this amazing engine cover.
Do you think we could find it, order it etc ?
Maybe a group buy + a letter to BMW AG.
If we want 50 of them, I guess they could make us 50 of these.

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Thoughts ?

glendog74

21-10-2009, 12:00 AM

:drool: :drool: :drool:

AlexGTT

21-10-2009, 12:50 AM

:drool: :drool: :drool:
+1 :thumbs:

alexk

21-10-2009, 07:00 AM

Who else would be willing to pay for one of this ?
Once we have a list of people, I can contact BMW.

Thank you please :thumbs:

The Gorilla

21-10-2009, 10:59 AM

Hi,

Interesting thats its a one piece Airbox.

More power, so now you know how BMW
were able to state 360 BHP for a Stock CSL.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

jonv

21-10-2009, 01:48 PM

Looks great.

I would be interested.

mattCSLnut

21-10-2009, 05:52 PM

7.77

21-10-2009, 06:17 PM

+ 1:smt055

mole

21-10-2009, 07:27 PM

Looks very nice. A shame they never went in to production with it... i'm in two minds as to whether I would want one though... I like the standard look :hahaha: but it is damn sexy - more CF is never a bad thing :thumbs:

alexk

21-10-2009, 07:40 PM

Guys, I think if we are more than 30 and determined, they could do it :)

phat///M3

21-10-2009, 08:46 PM

Guys, I think if we are more than 30 and determined, they could do it :)

You think they would? Do you know someone on the inside?

alexk

21-10-2009, 09:00 PM

You think they would? Do you know someone on the inside?

Well, I do have some relationship with BMW.

I think BMW AG knows that cars like the M3 CSL bring money to the dealers (they are tracked, they need parts oftenly, they need service oftenly etc etc).
Provided that there is a business proposal (even small like 50 carbon engine covers), it is possible that they would want to satisfy these 'special' customers that paid so much money for this car; also pay a lot of money to maintain it.
End of the day, a car like the M3 CSL is a moving advertisement for BMW AG.

mattCSLnut

21-10-2009, 09:32 PM

Yeah ... I think they (BMW AG) should pay us for driving our CSLs about :hahaha: Especially if driven HARD around the Ring :supz: Financial RING Solution, Thank You PLEEEZ :whistle:

karbonkid

21-10-2009, 09:32 PM

Hmm.. V. interesting, never seen a close up pic of the Concept E/bay. Looks like a familiar door plate embedded in it!

Interest below:

1. AlexK
2. AlexGTT
3. Jonv
4. 7.77
5. Karbonk
6...

Lee13

21-10-2009, 10:10 PM

Interested also, the one piece airbox interests me more

NZ_M3

22-10-2009, 09:32 AM

I remember seeing one of these for sale on ebay.de a VERY long time ago ... the guy even had a set of prototype CSL bucket seats in half leather/M Alcantara pattern and belt guides.

I am skeptical if you really can get BMW AG to manufacture these - why not contact a decent aftermarket carbon fiber manufacturer and see if they'll do a special run??

shimmy

22-10-2009, 09:55 AM

can we order some Carlos Fandango wheels whilst we are at it!

you boys need to get back to MLR :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

.

flow

22-10-2009, 12:06 PM

It is not the same but is a CF engine cover .

http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-M3-E46-CSL-Z4-M-E85-VENTILDECKEL-CARBON-HAUBE-CHROM_W0QQitemZ290359319725QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAuto teile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item439ac39cad

phat///M3

22-10-2009, 12:58 PM

can we order some Carlos Fandango wheels whilst we are at it!

Arent they only suitable for 335d's though?

1cosmicboy

23-10-2009, 05:12 PM

i,ll have one please

DazBlackCSL

24-10-2009, 09:12 AM

Yeah ... I think they (BMW AG) should pay us for driving our CSLs about :hahaha: Especially if driven HARD around the Ring :supz: Financial RING Solution, Thank You PLEEEZ :whistle:

lol :hahaha:

alexk

25-10-2009, 09:44 AM

Updated Interest below:

1. AlexK
2. AlexGTT
3. Jonv
4. 7.77
5. Karbonk
6. Lee13
7. 1cosmicboy
8. glendog74 (??)
9. ...

DazBlackCSL

25-10-2009, 10:29 AM

Updated Interest below:

1. AlexK
2. AlexGTT
3. Jonv
4. 7.77
5. Karbonk
6. Lee13
7. 1cosmicboy
8. glendog74 (??)
9. ...

Oh Go on then ....!! Lol

L1ARR

26-10-2009, 10:38 AM

I would be interested and keen to know a price :thumbs:

$w!ft

26-10-2009, 07:08 PM

I'd be interested! Oh btw Alex im in the Geneva/Gstaad area quite often, let me know if youre ever around there! Ive only seen 1 CSL in Switzerland so far I think.

shane@mbtech

26-10-2009, 09:33 PM

Updated Interest below:

1. AlexK
2. AlexGTT
3. Jonv
4. 7.77
5. Karbonk
6. Lee13
7. 1cosmicboy
8. glendog74 (??)
9. ...

Does this come with free neon underlights:whistle:

alexk

26-10-2009, 09:41 PM

Does this come with free neon underlights:whistle:

Yes, don't you know that neon lights add 20hp on the wheels, between 7800 and 8100 rpm ? :blalalala:

shane@mbtech

26-10-2009, 09:53 PM

Yes, don't you know that neon lights add 20hp on the wheels, between 7800 and 8100 rpm ? :blalalala:

Im playing, it does look cool, but most on here its pointless as only their mechanics will ever see it:whistle:

mattCSLnut

27-10-2009, 12:28 AM

Does this come with free neon underlights:whistle:
Will we also get the 100 BHP fluffy dice for the rear view mirror :blalalala:

alexk

02-01-2014, 07:26 AM

Resurrecting this thread...

The OEM engine cover is quite heavy.
I am preparing something. I will update you soon :)

http://www.clubcsl.com/CSL/blog/DSC_0041.jpg

Csl spurs

05-01-2014, 06:43 PM

I would love one.

Neil M

05-01-2014, 07:57 PM

There is probable a good reason why BMW didn't produce the rocker cover as per the prototype, more fixings than cost implications, does CF become brittle when subjected to heat? Is it oil resistant?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-e46-M3-CSL-Carbon-Fibre-Engine-Cover-/331098483188?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d1701e9f4
an example of the potential fixings issue - overtightened at a service?

However there are plenty of manufacturers currently offering S54 engine/rocker covers eg. German based CF specialists:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Engine-Cover-BMW-E46-M3-CSL-Carbon-Cam-Cover-/261300595304?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cd6baaa68

and closer to home CA Technologies:
http://www.ca-int.co.uk/products-Y2FyX21ha2U9Ym13JmNhcl90eXBlPWU0Nm0mY2F0X2lkPTQ0.h tml :thumbs:
(http://www.ca-int.co.uk/products-Y2FyX21ha2U9Ym13JmNhcl90eXBlPWU0Nm0mY2F0X2lkPTQ0.h tml)

alexk

05-01-2014, 08:04 PM

What do you mean with oil resistant Neil ?

Also, the 320si features a full CF rocker cover (what is normally plastic on normal BMW engines or aluminium in the S54 engine).

The reason why they didn't put one is down to cost.
In the case of the 320si, they wanted to homologate it for the racing engine, so cost was not a problem.
http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/320si_e90_engine_front.jpg

Here the one from the Mclaren F1 GTR Longtail engine.
Carbon engine covers, carbon coil packs etc.

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/55801456+w1280+h853+q100+re0+cr1+ar0+st0/ex-GTC-Gulf-Team-Davidoff-1997-McLaren-F1-GTR-Longtail-FIA-GT-Endurance-Racing-Coupe-left-engine-compartment-1.jpg

The problem with the already offered carbon rocker covers is that quality is bad and the weight savings are minimal.
The one I want to make should be less than 400g, otherwise it's pointless to replace the original one (that's my personal opinion of course).

_Nathan_

06-01-2014, 11:45 AM

trackm3

06-01-2014, 12:11 PM

How much oil do you think it comes in to contact with anyway Neil?

Saving 600 grams on a lardy road car is pointless anyway. If you want to save weight just take the original one off for trackdays but anyone claiming they can notice the difference of just that saving is on such a heavy engine is deluded.

This is why Nathan is asking !
Carbon's Epoxy Resin has to be cured to the temperature it will reach in use otherwise the resin will return to its previous form ! messy, also it will change colour over time hence you see lots of Carbon engine components going a goldish colour.

alexk

06-01-2014, 12:56 PM

How much oil do you think it comes in to contact with anyway Neil?

Saving 600 grams on a lardy road car is pointless anyway. If you want to save weight just take the original one off for trackdays but anyone claiming they can notice the difference of just that saving is on such a heavy engine is deluded.

Nathan, maybe we want to have a nice engine cover (like the csl concept car) and at the same time remove some weight.
I personally never saw the point of putting carbon bits without a weight saving.
So for me personally reducing the weight of this component and making it nicer is something I like.
I dont follow the deluded comment that you made :wink:

Edit: deluded are people claiming 420bhp on tuned non BMW MS S54 engines

_Nathan_

06-01-2014, 01:34 PM

If you want deluded power figures someone showed me a graph of an s54 with cams and vanos delete claiming 473bhp at the crank ;)

I don't see the point in just covering stuff with carbon either, but equally I don't see the point in making your engine bay look pretty, guess if you want to impress BMW assist it is ok ;)

Anyway, I was just commenting on the fact that 500g (not enough savings according to you) or 600g (enough) makes no difference when you have a bloody great lump of pig iron underneath it.

alexk

06-01-2014, 03:10 PM

Well thats the first step Nathan / save half a kilo.
Second is to have a P60 engine :smt055

The Gorilla

06-01-2014, 03:47 PM

Hi,

Quote- If you want deluded power figures someone showed me a graph of an s54 with cams and vanos delete claiming 473bhp at the crank''

Deluded, on Drugs more like.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

shane@mbtech

06-01-2014, 04:55 PM

Hi,

Quote- If you want deluded power figures someone showed me a graph of an s54 with cams and vanos delete claiming 473bhp at the crank''

Deluded, on Drugs more like.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

Driving a 130bhp car on drugs would feel like 473bhp. Maybe they did the power graph on an etch a sketch on a horse tranquilliser high.

_Nathan_

06-01-2014, 06:16 PM

My favourite part was the claimed 340lb/ft of Torque :banghead:

Mike R

06-01-2014, 07:12 PM

My favourite part was the claimed 340lb/ft of Torque :banghead:

Was it supercharged as well LOL?

alexk

06-01-2014, 07:16 PM

lol ! was it stroked to 5.0lt ?

_Nathan_

06-01-2014, 07:27 PM

All I can say is that there are some mappers around with really shit dynos and engine builders who genuinely believe it is even more scary.

cslsuperfan

06-01-2014, 07:39 PM

Driving a 130bhp car on drugs would feel like 473bhp. Maybe they did the power graph on an etch a sketch on a horse tranquilliser high.

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

0-60Motorsports

06-01-2014, 07:54 PM

I'm in depending on price.

Would love if Evolve or another good CF manufacturer would make one of these to flow with the OEM CSL Intake CF Weave.

mattCSLnut

07-01-2014, 12:00 AM

Driving a 130bhp car on drugs would feel like 473bhp. Maybe they did the power graph on an etch a sketch on a horse tranquilliser high.

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: