What Front Camber Do You Use On Track.

[Bealo]

As the title says.

I currently run -2.5 and i'm tempted to try -3.0....

Any thoughts on this guys +/- :thumbs:

[alexk]

Hm, I am on a modest -1.45

[glendog74]

-2.5 on my old Turner top mounts with OEM suspension. Worked well.

I now have -2.0 on my KW Clubsports as the car sits lower and this should work ok :thumbs:

-3.0 may be a tad aggressive and wear the inner edges of the tyres? Depends on your driving style of course...

[shane@mbtech]

-2.5 on my old Turner top mounts with OEM suspension. Worked well.

I now have -2.0 on my KW Clubsports as the car sits lower and this should work ok :thumbs:

-3.0 may be a tad aggressive and wear the inner edges of the tyres? Depends on your driving style of course...

I have 3 on mine front and 2 rear, get it dialled in. Mine is set up sweet and feels good on road and better on track

[shimmy]

I have 3 on mine front and 2 rear, get it dialled in. Mine is set up sweet and feels good on road and better on track

used to have -2/-3 adjusted on top mounts which was great biut gave a little inner wear

so changed to -1.5/-2.5 which is better for road but sometimes .like at Donny, not quite enough to keep me happy:beer:

[shane@mbtech]

Don't do that many miles on road to worry about tyre wear and I'm only on falkens which are a bargain so if they get chewed up up I'll buy some more

[shimmy]

Don't do that many miles on road to worry about tyre wear and I'm only on falkens which are a bargain so if they get chewed up up I'll buy some more

my car tends to keep its cups on all year except winter months so too much camber can cost £1k:bigcry:

[shane@mbtech]

my car tends to keep its cups on all year except winter months so too much camber can cost £1k:bigcry:

That's why I run 18s for track on a048s and my 19s with falkens. Works out cheaper IMO. The falkens cost me £440

[AlexGTT]

-2 road and -3 track apart from Ring where -2.5 works well. I reckon I've saved several sets of Cups since I started using -3 on most tracks and get almost perfect even wear.

[Bealo]

I think i'm going to try it.

And as Lawsy says front Falkens aren't that pricey :thumbs:

[shimmy]

I think i'm going to try it.

And as Lawsy says front Falkens aren't that pricey :thumbs:

or any good!:hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

my car tends to keep its cups on all year except winter months so too much camber can cost £1k:bigcry:

or any good!:hahaha:

I took a very cheap gamble on them, and tbh they are fine so far. I don't drive like a twat on the road. I save that for the a048 on track!
They are definitely worth a try, they seem better than the conti that were on the rear.

[Bealo]

I took a very cheap gamble on them, and tbh they are fine so far. I don't drive like a twat on the road. I save that for the a048 on track!
They are definitely worth a try, they seem better than the conti that were on the rear.

Don't listen to him Lawsy, he's just TRYING to be witty :thumbs:

I really rate the Falkens and think they are great VFM

[Mark CSL]

Don't listen to him Lawsy, he's just TRYING to be witty :thumbs:

I really rate the Falkens and think they are great VFM

Yes the Falken 452s are a great tyre i had them on at the ring :thumbs:
and the Daz and the boys were inpresed .

[glendog74]

Cheapskates :clown:

[shimmy]

Don't listen to him Lawsy, he's just TRYING to be witty :thumbs:




trying? :hahaha:

[Bealo]

Cheapskates :clown:

Some of us aren't as loaded as you young man :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Some of us aren't as loaded as you young man :thumbs:

I'm pretty sure you earn as much as me 'off-shore boy'! And i have a family now too ;) :hahaha:

[Bealo]

I'm pretty sure you earn as much as me 'off-shore boy'! And i have a family now too ;) :hahaha:


Boy eh????? :hahaha: :thumbs:

Haven't been called one of those for a few years....

[shane@mbtech]

I can afford them. The a048 are nearly as much as the cups but IMO better. The falkens are cheap cheerful and do me for the road fine they are very underated tyre. I also think 18s feel far better than 19s. Both on the road and track and tbh I reckon you guys would be faster on 18s on track. The 18s for track use are better!
I reckon this cup thing has got you hooked.

And before you all say BMW designed it with them on as they are the best for the csl, what about the brakes/suspension which most of you track guys change anyway.

[shimmy]

:blalalala:cups smell better

[shane@mbtech]

:blalalala:cups smell better

But the falken taste better

[AlexGTT]

I've found, with my standard suspension, that there is no substitute for Cups this side of slicks and I've tried just about everything. Main problem is other tyres just over heat way too easy, a problem I never get with Cups when everything is set just so with the geo, pressures, etc. For the track at least.

If I did much road mileage I'm sure I'd also stick some Falkens on on my spare set but right now both sets of wheels have Cups.:thumbs:

[Nords]

I can afford them. The a048 are nearly as much as the cups but IMO better. The falkens are cheap cheerful and do me for the road fine they are very underated tyre. I also think 18s feel far better than 19s. Both on the road and track and tbh I reckon you guys would be faster on 18s on track. The 18s for track use are better!
I reckon this cup thing has got you hooked.

And before you all say BMW designed it with them on as they are the best for the csl, what about the brakes/suspension which most of you track guys change anyway.

So what we need is someone selling 4x 18" rear M3 rims to take slicks or 18" tracktyres in the market place?

Hold on!!!!!!

:whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

I've found, with my standard suspension, that there is no substitute for Cups this side of slicks and I've tried just about everything. Main problem is other tyres just over heat way too easy, a problem I never get with Cups when everything is set just so with the geo, pressures, etc. For the track at least.

If I did much road mileage I'm sure I'd also stick some Falkens on on my spare set but right now both sets of wheels have Cups.:thumbs:

Try a set of a048 mediumhard on 18s and check your times. I reckon you would be surprised.

[nick///M3]

So what we need is someone selling 4x 18" rear M3 rims to take slicks or 18" tracktyres in the market place?

Hold on!!!!!!

:whistle:

i am going to use the following...

2 X 9,5x18 et 33 front
2 X 9,5x18 et 22 back
265/35/18 on all corners

or ( but probably the above...)

2 X 10x18 et 35 front
2 X 10x18 et 22 back
275/35/18 on all corners

-3.0 front / -2.2 rear camber ( adjustable suspension...)

and i will see what the outcome is....

but the "boys" in the other side of the Atlantic who track their cars a lot, are using the above tire specs...

and i dont know if it has any relevance in "our" cars but bmw is using in E46 s54
E46 gtr s62
Z4M coupe
E92 alms
27/65-18 front & 28/71-18 rear in 11inch wheels...( that is almost like an 275/40/18 tire)

[shimmy]

What type/make of tyres?

I think this would be a good idea overall for track but I would be tempted to stay on the 9.5 and not go to the 10 as I think at the front you might just struggle on some of the faster tracks with tramlining. I suppose you could then real the camber in but....


Looking at the ET, could you get 4 similar rims and use a pair of spacers so you can rotate tyres. If I coul rotate tyres front to back I would double their life (fronts wearing out inside and outside edges and rears on the main tread.)

i am going to use the following...

2 X 9,5x18 et 33 front
2 X 9,5x18 et 22 back
265/35/18 on all corners

or ( but probably the above...)

2 X 10x18 et 35 front
2 X 10x18 et 22 back
275/35/18 on all corners

-3.0 front / -2.2 rear camber ( adjustable suspension...)

and i will see what the outcome is....

but the "boys" in the other side of the Atlantic who track their cars a lot, are using the above tire specs...

and i dont know if it has any relevance in "our" cars but bmw is using in E46 s54
E46 gtr s62
Z4M coupe
E92 alms
27/65-18 front & 28/71-18 rear in 11inch wheels...( that is almost like an 275/40/18 tire)

[philj]

Would you be able to run 265/35/18 all round on standard suspension?

[nick///M3]

What type/make of tyres?

I think this would be a good idea overall for track but I would be tempted to stay on the 9.5 and not go to the 10 as I think at the front you might just struggle on some of the faster tracks with tramlining. I suppose you could then real the camber in but....


Looking at the ET, could you get 4 similar rims and use a pair of spacers so you can rotate tyres. If I coul rotate tyres front to back I would double their life (fronts wearing out inside and outside edges and rears on the main tread.)


i think to i might end up with the 9,5 all round....
although guys in the other side of the ocean use the 10inch with no problems and they have some looooooong straights on their tracks....

is about the same running front backs and the opposite than changing a set of new fronts every other time...

as for tires probably A048 yoko's or 888 toyo's or if i can find the nitto NT01 some where in europe...wich ever comes cheaper.....:beer:

[shane@mbtech]

i think to i might end up with the 9,5 all round....
although guys in the other side of the ocean use the 10inch with no problems and they have some looooooong straights on their tracks....

is about the same running front backs and the opposite than changing a set of new fronts every other time...

as for tires probably A048 yoko's or 888 toyo's or if i can find the nitto NT01 some where in europe...wich ever comes cheaper.....:beer:


Dont waste your time with the 888, go off too quickly compared to the a048

[nick///M3]

Dont waste your time with the 888, go off too quickly compared to the a048

the problem here in grecce we dont have easy acces to the yoko's....
so the 888's are the easiest way to go and through some people i know here probably the cheapest...tracking the car in greece is not like the uk or germany...we are so so so back that is just for playing.....nothing serious....:banghead: