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shane@mbtech
04-07-2009, 12:19 AM
Just wondering what mode you all use on track?

Is the general theme to just switch it completely off or do you keep it in M track mode?

I must admit even on the road i have it completely off ( merc amg v8 kompressor back ground) so im partial to a bit of sideways action;).
But i am yet to sample it on the track( roll on oulton park 1st august)/

Are they quicker in m track or traction completely off, i know i think it will be quicker with traction off completely.

Also what gear mode do you guys use on track?

Many thanks

Lawsy:beer:

glendog74
04-07-2009, 12:56 AM
I'm a fan of M-track usually and find it is good in damp & wet conditions too. I occasionally turn it all off if it's nice and dry. :thumbs:

M-track - 'S5'
DSC Off - 'S6'

I once did a lap at Spa having forgotten to switch to M-track. I realised what i had done half way round as i was 'fighting' the car into every corner and it was reigning me back every few seconds! :banghead: :hahaha:

On road i drive in M-track too only leaving DSC fully on if its pissing it down or if i am behaving myself... :whistle:

Bealo
04-07-2009, 08:47 AM
I agree with Glendog I usually use M-track on track as i find it helps smooth my driving out, if i can do a smooth fast lap without it coming on i'm happy plus i like the thought that it is there to help me out if needs be. I know i need to get a bigger set of balls and switch it off but i'm working up to that lol :thumbs:

On a wet track i usually leave the traction fully on.

On the road it is left on unless i'm having a play then i use M-track.

Mark CSL
04-07-2009, 09:05 AM
It will always be up to the driver as every one has a differant driving style and speed i always run with it fully off on track S6 :thumbs:

Unless it is pissing it down then it is M on :hahaha:

On the road i run S3 and traction ON for a smooth gear change :whistle: ( Getting Old )

shimmy
04-07-2009, 10:14 AM
i normally run M track in the wet or damp conditions and then all off in the afternoons if dry

just trying to cut down the risk of a prang!

SpineOnABap
04-07-2009, 10:58 AM
If someone will only run DSC ON or M-Track ON in wet conditions, why run DSC OFF in dry conditions?
What do they gain from DSC being OFF in dry - is it purely eliminating the TC that can kick in between gear-shifts in a straight line, or is it something else?

Not aimed at any one person, just a general discussion...

kbird
04-07-2009, 11:01 AM
DSC off and S6 the best settings in the dry without question. With DSC or M Track on its like driving half the car. In the wet, on Cups get the lot on!!

Jaw_F430
04-07-2009, 05:32 PM
I ran M mode when I went to Bedford and it was quite good:thumbs:

rstoughy
05-07-2009, 11:31 PM
On track i run with everything off whether it's wet or dry.

Tried M-track in the wet at croft and went a little quick into a corner, back end stepped out so jabbed the throttle to catch it but there was nothing there. Ended up spinning so went back to basics and had a ball for the rest of the day :thumbs:

spanner
06-07-2009, 12:31 PM
All the bad aids switched off & s5 - unless I am going for a lap time then s6.

Forced S50
06-07-2009, 05:38 PM
Personally all off wet or dry and S6, traction control is best done with your right hoof

shimmy
06-07-2009, 06:21 PM
If someone will only run DSC ON or M-Track ON in wet conditions, why run DSC OFF in dry conditions?
What do they gain from DSC being OFF in dry - is it purely eliminating the TC that can kick in between gear-shifts in a straight line, or is it something else?

Not aimed at any one person, just a general discussion...

trying to prevent me CRASHING!!!!!!!:birdman:

SpineOnABap
06-07-2009, 08:05 PM
trying to prevent me CRASHING!!!!!!!:birdman:

Ok, but if you crash in the rain with DSC OFF it'll possibly be much less of an incident than if you crash in the dry with DSC OFF - that was my point when asking the question. In the dry speeds are much higher, the transition between grip and loss of grip (and vice-versa) is more sudden and violent, and generally it's a lot more tricky! So if someone is happy they can deal with that situation in the dry they should be completely confident in the wet, no?

karbonkid
06-07-2009, 08:43 PM
I was going to post the same topic up. Now answers my question too. :thumbs:

I questioned myself last weekend on a t/day what traction mode to run in and does the S6 make it a faster change.

Is S6 a quicker change than S5 or is it the same but is the mode you have to set to enable you to do launch control?

I have tried both in comparison and cant see a difference in speed. S6 being the renowned 0.08s Gear change?

shimmy
06-07-2009, 08:52 PM
Ok, but if you crash in the rain with DSC OFF it'll possibly be much less of an incident than if you crash in the dry with DSC OFF - that was my point when asking the question. In the dry speeds are much higher, the transition between grip and loss of grip (and vice-versa) is more sudden and violent, and generally it's a lot more tricky! So if someone is happy they can deal with that situation in the dry they should be completely confident in the wet, no?

E

I know what your saying but the factor that rain introduces is unpredictability. Loss of grip even if at slower speeds can happen at various what may seem different situations. Running on Cups you can get one minute good grip on wet track with hot tyres then next corner no grip with some standing water. Then like at Sillystone the track with just a little rain can become a skid pan with all the race rubber down or even with the risk of hitting some apex or exit paint!!!

On a dry track I can build up during the day my knowledge of the track, my suspension settings and tyre pressure and speeds. The consequence of a big off does increase but it becomes less of a lottery and more under my control, well at least in my mind.

bromers
06-07-2009, 10:13 PM
IMVHO I think the car feels quicker with DSC off - even when using the M Track mode you can feel it cutting in without it lighting up the dash board. Saying that I generally use M track mode but when you want to do a bit of drifting then DSC off obviously.

shimmy
06-07-2009, 10:23 PM
IMVHO I think the car feels quicker with DSC off - even when using the M Track mode you can feel it cutting in without it lighting up the dash board. Saying that I generally use M track mode but when you want to do a bit of drifting then DSC off obviously.

without a doubt the car will be quicker with DSC off. I reckon on most UK tracks on a dry day you will gain up to half a sec or more.

Nords
06-07-2009, 11:24 PM
Turn DSC off and then try full bore S5 changes and swap to S6 immediately and repeat. S6 is definitely faster....

englebert
07-07-2009, 10:51 PM
I turn it all off, its pointless in my view, just kills the brakes. I always wonder why people treat wet conditions with such caution? Breakaway is slower to progress, giving more warning and you're going slower in the first place.

The CSL is a viceless car, its the nature of a front engined RWD... M-Track is a gimmick IMO.