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The front bumper of my CSL had some really badly applied Armourfend that was creased at the edges, which had sacrificed itself against some stonechips, sometimes tearing at the same time. The exposed paint gaps were still peppered with stone chips, including the paint area just ahead of the front wheel arches.
I'm bit of a stickler when it comes to having the car looking its best, so I had the Armourfend removed and found that the paint underneath was also badly stonechipped from the previous-previous owner before the Armourfend had been fitted. :(
So instead of dabbling with the stonechip repair kit :clown:, I've decided to have the front bumper resprayed and the area just ahead of the front wheel arches also done to get rid of the irritating stone chips. Am also getting the front splitters re-lacquered, so hopefully the front end will look sparkly new again. :)
Pics to follow once I get her back, hopefully later this week!
Radders
22-06-2009, 02:53 PM
The front bumper of my CSL had some really badly applied Armourfend that was creased at the edges, which had sacrificed itself against some stonechips, sometimes tearing at the same time. The exposed paint gaps were still peppered with stone chips, including the paint area just ahead of the front wheel arches.
I'm bit of a stickler when it comes to having the car looking its best, so I had the Armourfend removed and found that the paint underneath was also badly stonechipped from the previous-previous owner before the Armourfend had been fitted. :(
So instead of dabbling with the stonechip repair kit :clown:, I've decided to have the front bumper resprayed and the area just ahead of the front wheel arches also done to get rid of the irritating stone chips. Am also getting the front splitters re-lacquered, so hopefully the front end will look sparkly new again. :)
Pics to follow once I get her back, hopefully later this week!
personally leave it be if you drive the car, i had my bumper and splitters done for the same reason but no more than 10 miles down the road it was chipped again.
:banghead:
E46ACS
22-06-2009, 04:17 PM
I'm planning on getting my front bumper painted, but will get it Venture Shield'd or similar before it leaves the paint shop!!!
glendog74
22-06-2009, 04:36 PM
I wouldn't bother if you plan on tracking the car regularly or doing high road mileages.
Even when it is painted and fitted with protection film, the film will only begin to look shite after a while, which defeats the object IMHO.
I went the route of getting the car professionally detailed which rids the car of some of the lighter marks and scratches.
Unfortunately the CSL front end just attracts chips and damage. :banghead:
shimmy
22-06-2009, 04:40 PM
mines got more chips that paint so i will be leaving it until i sell it! :thumbs:
BUT i have a plan for the winter if i keep her next year :whistle:
shimmy
22-06-2009, 04:41 PM
The front bumper of my CSL had some really badly applied Armourfend that was creased at the edges, which had sacrificed itself against some stonechips, sometimes tearing at the same time. The exposed paint gaps were still peppered with stone chips, including the paint area just ahead of the front wheel arches.
I'm bit of a stickler when it comes to having the car looking its best, so I had the Armourfend removed and found that the paint underneath was also badly stonechipped from the previous-previous owner before the Armourfend had been fitted. :(
So instead of dabbling with the stonechip repair kit :clown:, I've decided to have the front bumper resprayed and the area just ahead of the front wheel arches also done to get rid of the irritating stone chips. Am also getting the front splitters re-lacquered, so hopefully the front end will look sparkly new again. :)
Pics to follow once I get her back, hopefully later this week!
Ade, let me know the details of who and how much if it turns out to be a good job! :supz:
Radders
22-06-2009, 04:44 PM
I wouldn't bother if you plan on tracking the car regularly or doing high road mileages.
Even when it is painted and fitted with protection film, the film will only begin to look shite after a while, which defeats the object IMHO.
I went the route of getting the car professionally detailed which rids the car of some of the lighter marks and scratches.
Unfortunately the CSL front end just attracts chips and damage. :banghead:
totally agree on the protection film, had it on the ferrari and ended up ripping it off. looked just as bad with it on!
shimmy
22-06-2009, 04:45 PM
totally agree on the protection film, had it on the ferrari and ended up ripping it off. looked just as bad with it on!
you guys must be using the wrong film and applier i think :whistle:
Radders
22-06-2009, 04:48 PM
you guys must be using the wrong film and applier i think :whistle:
everyone has a different experience with this stuff and perhaps it is just black cars that suffer the most?
I wouldn't bother if you plan on tracking the car regularly or doing high road mileages.
Even when it is painted and fitted with protection film, the film will only begin to look shite after a while, which defeats the object IMHO.
I went the route of getting the car professionally detailed which rids the car of some of the lighter marks and scratches.
Unfortunately the CSL front end just attracts chips and damage. :banghead:
Yeah, I'm not doing a lot of mileage, but I hate seeing my P&J with bad acne and the white basecoat puss pushing through - especially rolling into the summer when she sees more daylight! Mind you, a front end (not bonnet) paintjob is just a couple hundred quid, so it's almost worth getting it done each year to as new again rather than 1500+ for the film.
Ade, let me know the details of who and how much if it turns out to be a good job! :supz:
Will do Shim. It's a bodyshop I've known well as he has prepped and restored vintage 911s to concours standard for the past 20+ years and he has his own oven. Should get it back in a couple of days, will let you know how it goes! :thumbs:
shimmy
22-06-2009, 05:34 PM
everyone has a different experience with this stuff and perhaps it is just black cars that suffer the most?
ahhhhh black, forgot you had the 340 bhp version!!:thumbs:
(does that mean you get less stone chips)!!!!
glendog74
22-06-2009, 05:56 PM
mines got more chips that paint so i will be leaving it until i sell it! :thumbs:
BUT i have a plan for the winter if i keep her next year :whistle:
Hmmm - interesting... :whistle:
shimmy
22-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Hmmm - interesting... :whistle:
not that interesting tbh!
XPorker
22-06-2009, 06:14 PM
Mine's in the paintshop at the moment, both the front bumper and the leading edges of the front wings are being painted, also having new splitters and headlamp lenses fitted at the same time too :thumbs:
The bonnet's being being mopped and I'll touch the chips in myself.
All four wheels are being refurbed (plus new centre caps and M badges) and two new rear tyres fitted too. It's shaping up to be an expensive month . . . .
So who's recognised as being the best for Paintshield/Ventureshield type products ?
shimmy
22-06-2009, 06:36 PM
Mine's in the paintshop at the moment, both the front bumper and the leading edges of the front wings are being painted, also having new splitters and headlamp lenses fitted at the same time too :thumbs:
The bonnet's being being mopped and I'll touch the chips in myself.
All four wheels are being refurbed (plus new centre caps and M badges) and two new rear tyres fitted too. It's shaping up to be an expensive month . . . . ?
ouch!
So who's recognised as being the best for Paintshield/Ventureshield type products ?
AMI, speak to Nick
bryce
22-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Ive yet to be impressed by venturesheild or the like, Im too fussy :banghead:
I got my bumper resprayed end of last year and it still looks minted. Body shop told me they could not re-laquer the splitters so Id be interested to see/hear how you get on Ade :thumbs:
I got my bumper resprayed end of last year and it still looks minted. Body shop told me they could not re-laquer the splitters so Id be interested to see/hear how you get on Ade :thumbs:
He had a look at them up close, and he said 'no problem'. He's painted and lacquered bits of CF for me before so I know relacquering CF is possible. Hopefully these shouldn't give him trouble!
Jay55
22-06-2009, 09:58 PM
with most film its down to the installer!!!!!!
if you get a cowboy you get a shit job, ventureshield has some good installers and they have some shite ones...its all about finding a reputable installer.
film has come a long way over the years, its was once known to go yellow, edges folding etc etc etc but the biggest factor is getting a good installer and IMO Tom and his team at Paintshield do a fantastic job
Yeah, I'm not doing a lot of mileage, but I hate seeing my P&J with bad acne and the white basecoat puss pushing through - especially rolling into the summer when she sees more daylight! Mind you, a front end (not bonnet) paintjob is just a couple hundred quid, so it's almost worth getting it done each year to as new again rather than 1500+ for the film.
Will do Shim. It's a bodyshop I've known well as he has prepped and restored vintage 911s to concours standard for the past 20+ years and he has his own oven. Should get it back in a couple of days, will let you know how it goes! :thumbs:
Not a proper job, should cost you a lot more but chips will occur again!
Paintshield - Tom is the man.
Not a proper job, should cost you a lot more
:hahaha:
Really? Don't critique the work without seeing it and basing it on cost without knowing who's doing the job ;)
:gayfight:
shimmy
22-06-2009, 10:37 PM
:hahaha:
Really? Don't critique the work without seeing it and basing it on cost without knowing who's doing the job ;)
:gayfight:
knickers?:beer:
glendog74
22-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Just cling-film the car - cheap as chips and you could renew it every week if you so wish to keep it fresh looking :hahaha: :clown:
knickers?:beer:
nope, but he'll get the ventureshield job. Actually, thinking of it, I would gladly have given him the paint to do as well:thumbs:
Jay55
22-06-2009, 10:41 PM
:clown:Just cling-film the car - cheap as chips and you could renew it every week if you so wish to keep it fresh looking :hahaha: :clown:
:hahaha: there's always one clown
Well, I got the car back today just before some epic thunderstorms(!), and she looks gorgeous :smt055
He even managed to emulate the exact same factory paint finish orange peel on the rest of the car! :hahaha:
He relacquered the carbon splitters using proper 2-pack lacquer, but he said it needed to have a flexible additive added so that it does not crack at the first sign of flex or stone impact. He commented that the tolerance on the splitters is very tight, and it's not surprising that 3rd party/non-OEM splitters are not always a good fit. I'm very happy with the results - they really do look as good as they would brand new.
He said it's a simple job to do, and he would be able to do them quite easily for others if there was interest. His process is to simply strip them back, relacquer, and 'bake' in his oven. He cannot repair cracked CF, and he said there may be very slight, almost imperceptible dimples where a stone may have penetrated back to the raw CF. The cost is about £125, so not the cheapest, but the finish is really excellent and he uses the correct lacquers etc.
Photos tomorrow when it's not raining! :)
Did a quick wipe down, and here are the results!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/adrienong/P1060765.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/adrienong/P1060762.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/adrienong/P1060760.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/adrienong/P1060759.jpg
glendog74
28-06-2009, 01:28 PM
Looking good :thumbs:
karbonkid
28-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Looks a clean Job. Did you get the parts under the headlight and lower bonnet done? Nice work. Just waiting for my splitters to turn up tomorrow from a final top coat and oven session.
DazBlackCSL
28-06-2009, 04:51 PM
Think mine would last days looking like that !!:hahaha:
Looks tidy tho;)
Looks a clean Job. Did you get the parts under the headlight and lower bonnet done?
Nope, I decided to leave those bits covered with the Armourfend as those parts were untouched and the film was applied cleanly. :)
bryce
28-06-2009, 07:11 PM
Looking good Ade, loving the shiny splitters. LH is a poor fit though, Id have a fiddle with it.
Looking good Ade, loving the shiny splitters. LH is a poor fit though, Id have a fiddle with it.
Yep, spotted that after the photo! A quick adjustment of the screw underneath, and all good again :thumbs:
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