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Andyk
19-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Just read this in EVO....Not good.

New legislation on tyre labelling and accompanying minimum standards to be introduced simultaneously in Nov 2012 will effectively end the production of road legal trackday tyres. Tyres likely to be axed include Dunlop Direzza, Toyo 888, Mich Pilot Sport Cup and AvonACB10 and others.

The aim of the new reg is both raise all-round performance standards and to give buyers a greater understanding of the performance and enviromental impact of each particular tyre before purchase. All road legal tyres will have to display rating figs and rolling resistance, external noise and wet grip and will the min rating system and min levels have yet to be set it is unlikely that the track biased tyres will be able to pass on all counts.

Tyre manufactures are currently lobbying the European Parliament but it will be very difficult for them to make a successful argument for tyres that allow drivers to corner faster in the dry but offer significantly lower level of performance the moment the surface becomes damp.

:bigcry:

Jeff
19-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Not the end of the world. Wheel manufacturers will love it - track wheels will become popular........

SpineOnABap
20-06-2009, 07:58 AM
but it will be very difficult for them to make a successful argument for tyres that allow drivers to corner faster in the dry but offer significantly lower level of performance the moment the surface becomes damp.

so Cups will be ok then as they offer very good damp performance :thumbs:

Mark CSL
20-06-2009, 09:37 AM
very good damp performance :thumbs:

That is the same as my wife :hahaha:

SpineOnABap
20-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Filth! :hahaha:

bryce
20-06-2009, 12:14 PM
haha Mark, quality :hahaha:

The Cup+ are already heading the right route anyway. They'll sort summit out :thumbs:

AlexGTT
20-06-2009, 01:18 PM
Read this as well last night. Bugger them all, I'll still use cups for as long as I can get them :birdman:. Nany state b*ll*cks! Once again the choice for us all is reduced to accommodate the lowest common denomiator. Can we not all think and make decisions for ourselves and take the responsibility.:banghead:

shimmy
20-06-2009, 04:15 PM
I agree in principal but you have to agree that poor wet performance of it all goes wrong can affect more than just the user!

Anyway just buy a load before they outlaw them as they will be marked DOT rated and legal until they wear out!

Andyk
20-06-2009, 09:15 PM
That is the same as my wife :hahaha:


You must be doing something wrong Mark as mines wet rather than damp...:whistle::hahaha:

glendog74
20-06-2009, 09:45 PM
You must be doing something wrong Mark as mines wet rather than damp...:whistle::hahaha:

Lol - nice one Andy! :hahaha:

azrael
21-06-2009, 11:59 AM
I'm not sure the additional info on the tyre will help the general public

1. They have no clue what any of it means anyway
2. They are unlikely to be buying these tyres for their cars anyway

As for the rest of us, we know the limitations and they come with warnings as to the effect of cold/wet/aquaplaning.

Good job the CSL has so much room in it, not sure what the Pork boys will have to do? Trailer/support vehicle

azrael
21-06-2009, 12:01 PM
I agree in principal but you have to agree that poor wet performance of it all goes wrong can affect more than just the user!

Definately agree with this statement.

glendog74
21-06-2009, 12:17 PM
Good job the CSL has so much room in it, not sure what the Pork boys will have to do? Trailer/support vehicle

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/DSC03192.jpg

http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/glendog74/P1000179.jpg

:thumbs:

Andyk
21-06-2009, 12:30 PM
:hahaha:...Can not believe they fit in the back.....:thumbs:

glendog74
21-06-2009, 12:34 PM
:hahaha:...Can not believe they fit in the back.....:thumbs:

I now lie them flat so that they don't roll into the back of my seat under braking! There is a knack to getting them in flat, however! I stack 3 on top of each other then fit the last one in before moving the top one onto that! :whistle:

Paul Eggleton
21-06-2009, 12:47 PM
It will be interesting to see how this pans out, especially around MOT time. The Cup was designed for the car. I can't seem them outlawing the OEM tyre......

Bealo
21-06-2009, 03:37 PM
I now lie them flat so that they don't roll into the back of my seat under braking! There is a knack to getting them in flat, however! I stack 3 on top of each other then fit the last one in before moving the top one onto that! :whistle:

:thumbs:put an instructional video in the Technical section lol... :thumbs:

azrael
21-06-2009, 03:44 PM
Its a pity the aren't brackets to fit a bar to stop them rolling forwards :)

shane@mbtech
21-06-2009, 07:29 PM
Its a pity the aren't brackets to fit a bar to stop them rolling forwards :)


just slide the both the drivers and passnger seats back to the wheels to secure them, unless you are vertically challenged it should lock them fine

glendog74
21-06-2009, 09:07 PM
just slide the both the drivers and passnger seats back to the wheels to secure them, unless you are vertically challenged it should lock them fine

I'm vertically challenged... :hahaha:

shane@mbtech
21-06-2009, 11:04 PM
I'm vertically challenged... :hahaha:


ha, ok:hahaha:

I should be ok, just waiting for my track tyres and wheels, need to order a set of wheel bags now :thumbs: