As it is the season for race car pictures [Archive]

_Nathan_

01-04-2009, 11:18 PM

My CSL is getting there...

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/P1010509.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/P1010518.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/P1010519.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/P1010524.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/P1010526.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/P1010534.jpg

More pics in a few weeks when it is finished :thumbs:

bryce

01-04-2009, 11:24 PM

You've brutalised it!! Gonna be sooo fun though!

You 'Cuppin' it? Who's do the work?

dave1

01-04-2009, 11:25 PM

i was there yesterday very trick especially the 318i badge faf:hahaha:

_Nathan_

01-04-2009, 11:27 PM

Not being built for cup, building it for endurance racing. Going take it for some fun for a few months then back again for new fuel tank, dry break refuelling, pit to car radio then doing a few rounds this year before hopefully finding the funds for a full season next year.

Simpsons doing the work.

glendog74

01-04-2009, 11:30 PM

i was there yesterday very trick especially the 318i badge faf:hahaha:

What did you get done at Simpson's mate?

Love the 318i badge too Nathan :hahaha:

_Nathan_

01-04-2009, 11:32 PM

316i I'll have you know. Been on there for years, since a GT3 owner told me it was a souped up 316 at a trackday about 3.5-4 years ago in fact.

bryce

01-04-2009, 11:32 PM

Sweet.

Endurance where?

_Nathan_

01-04-2009, 11:33 PM

www.britcar24hr.co.uk

bryce

01-04-2009, 11:33 PM

316i I'll have you know. Been on there for years, since a GT3 owner told me it was a souped up 316 at a trackday about 3.5-4 years ago in fact.

and what was his? A souped up Boxter? :gayfight:

dave1

01-04-2009, 11:49 PM

[quote=glendog74;19555]What did you get done at Simpson's mate?

should have been geo but turned into more as usual, good job though
good bunch there:thumbs:

glendog74

01-04-2009, 11:52 PM

[quote=glendog74;19555]What did you get done at Simpson's mate?

should have been geo but turned into more as usual, good job though
good bunch there:thumbs:

Well...? Do tell! They certainly are a good bunch there :thumbs:

dave1

01-04-2009, 11:58 PM

column and swivel joint u/s then a track rod end steers like agood un now mind,no go faster bits im afraid i have had to wind it in:bigcry:

Bealo

02-04-2009, 02:47 AM

Looking good Nathan.

:thumbs: :thumbs:

houlbt

02-04-2009, 08:58 AM

Lovely mate... to give them there due Simpsons do very pretty prep work.

theodoros

02-04-2009, 11:53 AM

I love the driver's seat!

When do you think you will be racing it Nathan?

_Nathan_

02-04-2009, 12:19 PM

I love the driver's seat!

When do you think you will be racing it Nathan?

Have paid deposits on a couple of rounds much, much later in the year. I need to spend a few months learning to drive first!

DazBlackCSL

02-04-2009, 12:20 PM

Have paid deposits on a couple of rounds much, much later in the year. I need to spend a few months learning to drive first!

You and me both :whistle::hahaha:

david

02-04-2009, 01:32 PM

I like that roll cage, where did you get that done? Amount for sutch a beast?

Damm, I love your car....:thumbs:

_Nathan_

02-04-2009, 02:09 PM

Cage is a http://www.customcages.co.uk one with some extra bars added for the rear subframe mounting and some extra gussetting.

www.simpsonmotorsport.com are building the car - no idea on individual breakdown of labour for just the cage though, sorry.

Mark CSL

02-04-2009, 02:31 PM

Nathan_ (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/member.php?u=190)
Thats looking good :thumbs:

Sorry i mean shit just like DAZs :hahaha::hahaha:

Get the finished pix up :thumbs:

englebert

04-04-2009, 09:59 PM

Britcar production or big boys?

_Nathan_

04-04-2009, 10:15 PM

Andyk

05-04-2009, 08:32 AM

Production mate - don't have an unlimited budget :bigcry:

Saw your dad was out last week but not you - you planning on getting out this year?

Went down and got new bumper and splitter on last week :thumbs:

Very nice...looks mean...lets hope the others think the same and move out of your way...:thumbs:

shimmy

05-04-2009, 08:51 AM

nathan

car looks sweet from that view but i must admit last time i saw her she had daisy's growing out of the footwell!!:bigcry:

_Nathan_

05-04-2009, 10:14 AM

???

It hadn't been cleaned for over a year when I took it down there and there were some dandelions in the front from an off track excursion, some grass on the inside from where I span across a freshly cut bit with the window open but no daisys that I knew off!

Since then it has been resprayed on the inside and the even cleaned the outside!

englebert

05-04-2009, 04:22 PM

Production mate - don't have an unlimited budget :bigcry:

Saw your dad was out last week but not you - you planning on getting out this year?

Went down and got new bumper and splitter on last week :thumbs:

Cool... see you on track then!

I had to be in Edinburgh last weekend, but will be doing the rest of the rounds. Can't wait for the Spa night race :thumbs:

_Nathan_

05-04-2009, 05:58 PM

Looking forward to that one next year, both of us have novice crosses still mate so no Spa for us until we've done enough races to get a Nat A.

Aim is 2 races this year then hopefully full season next. Will come and try to find you and say hello in the paddock, if you see a couple of blokes looking lost in a grey and green CSL come and say hello.

bryce

05-04-2009, 07:28 PM

Sweet. You gonna use the second intake for anything?

_Nathan_

05-04-2009, 07:50 PM

Brake cooling or PAS cooler at some point I'd have thought.

Andyk

05-04-2009, 07:55 PM

Ah, yours is the car at Simpsons I saw a few weeks ago....never noticed the 2 air in takes. Was it yours that wa son toyo's?

_Nathan_

05-04-2009, 08:13 PM

That bumper was only put on on Friday - yeah using R888 for road tyres at the moment.

Andyk

06-04-2009, 03:57 AM

How do you get on with the 888. I like them but there has been mixed reactions to them and Simpsons told me that they don't last.

_Nathan_

06-04-2009, 08:46 AM

Great on the road utterly shite on track, they go off really quickly as the rears just overheat.

As a road tyre they are great though, better in water than cups and don't require anywhere near as much warming up.

englebert

06-04-2009, 11:46 AM

Were you at Brands at the testing day a couple of weeks back then Nathan? I saw one parked near the first garage...

_Nathan_

06-04-2009, 12:05 PM

Curly

06-04-2009, 03:33 PM

nathan the cars looking sooooo cool:drool::thumbs:

englebert

06-04-2009, 03:57 PM

Nah - my car isn't finished yet - was at Silverstone for the race with the BPM Clio guys to see how it was run from the pits.

Might have been Guy Spurr's CSL? Was his blue e46 WTCC car testing at the time?

Do you use a radio? I think it looks really useful but have had other advice saying a pit board is plenty good enough?

Yes i think it was Guy's in that case then!

Ah, BPM Clio boys... i speak to Marcus(?) over on Cliosport.

Yes we have a radio, pit board's can be ok but it's not the same, especially if you are in the heat of battle! Took us a whole season just to get the radio working well though...

If you can afford it i would go for one, the more you can focus just on yourself, the more relaxed you'll be and the better you'll drive.

_Nathan_

11-08-2009, 08:53 AM

Almost finished, might even SORN it at some point and cash in the tax disk, doesn't look right on it now:thumbs:

SMD

11-08-2009, 08:56 AM

Looks great mate!

csl_mba

11-08-2009, 09:47 AM

A little understated though isnt Nathan :hahaha:

Looks the danglies mate :thumbs::thumbs: :drool:

glendog74

11-08-2009, 10:00 AM

Love the front bumper & lip splitter :thumbs:

windy

11-08-2009, 10:44 AM

I've been looking for that bumper Nathan. Where's it from?

_Nathan_

11-08-2009, 10:57 AM

Simpsons made it.

shimmy

11-08-2009, 02:32 PM

nathan

car didnt look like that at Simpsons yesterday;)

_Nathan_

11-08-2009, 02:53 PM

That is my fault :P

englebert

11-08-2009, 03:41 PM

Love the bumper/splitter arrangement Nathan, looks really aggressive.

See you at Snett! Our new camber mod needs fine tuning...

http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/GH98951.jpg

http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/PJC_3201W.jpg

_Nathan_

11-08-2009, 03:50 PM

lol, go easy on us when you lap us, I am bricking it!

Andyk

11-08-2009, 05:42 PM

englebert

12-08-2009, 10:21 AM

I think its me who has to worry about M3s :bigcry:

6C8mk_C_HsA

whopwop

12-08-2009, 11:20 AM

Fu(k me, fair play for having the balls to put the boot back down after that !! :thumbs:

Mark CSL

12-08-2009, 02:07 PM

i hope you had words after him using you as a bit armco :hahaha:

Andyk

12-08-2009, 08:10 PM

And thats why I'm not a racer as I will have to give him a thump..

_Nathan_

12-08-2009, 08:28 PM

I think its me who has to worry about M3s :bigcry:

6C8mk_C_HsA

Mr Gent driving?

englebert

12-08-2009, 09:24 PM

Yep!

_Nathan_

12-08-2009, 09:55 PM

Not calmed down since causing that pile up at silverstone then :bigcry:

_Nathan_

02-09-2009, 10:41 PM

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RSMP/F.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/PJC_3793W.jpg

englebert

03-09-2009, 12:38 PM

Very nice Naith... i really like the colour scheme. Won't stay that pristine for long though :blalalala:

Curly

04-09-2009, 10:41 AM

the car looks brill nathan how did you get on in the race?

pinkpanther008

04-09-2009, 01:10 PM

Congratulations Nathan, car looks great whens the next round?

What spec is the car, are the Britcar regs tight?

Notice the wider 18's on the front, waht are they wrapped in and do they squeeze over AP'sor Alcon's?

Lovin the paint job!

Good luck with the rest of the season, i fully intend to catch a round or two, dept of war and finance permitting?!!

PP.

nick///M3

05-09-2009, 10:45 AM

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv226/RSMP/F.jpg

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn304/MannyLPS/PJC_3793W.jpg

that is BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!
congrats on your beast....:drool:

_Nathan_

02-04-2010, 06:08 PM

Few changes, still need to cut out the battery box to make room for the full width diffuser, new wing ready to go on, splitter missing in pics too, and maybe a full flat floor too. Now have gearbox & PAS coolers as well as diff and massive engine oil cooler, few other bits done to make it better for endurance stuff, reducing drive shaft failures etc.

Now down to 1250-1255kg allowing for the extra bits that need to be added back on and still have the heater matrix in for demisting on rainy days :gayfight:

Will have lots more stickers too soon, will post up again when it is finished...

Phatgixer

02-04-2010, 06:17 PM

Car looks great, Nathan. Now stop fiddling with it and get out there and mix it!

I'm in for Snett with Bennett alongside :)

_Nathan_

02-04-2010, 06:23 PM

Fiddling will be stopped as soon as these last bits are done, promise!

Budget for racing is another matter, have 2 deposits down at the moment, going to try and do more.

DazBlackCSL

02-04-2010, 06:29 PM

Car looking sweet Nathan ... I so wish I still had my race car :bigcry:

AlexGTT

02-04-2010, 06:47 PM

Looking nice Nathan.:thumbs:Loved the side exit exhausts. Always good to see developments on yours as I pop into Ant's every two weeks or so for a chat and cuppa. Is that a wrap on the car now?:smokin:

AlexGTT

02-04-2010, 06:48 PM

Car looking sweet Nathan ... I so wish I still had my race car :bigcry:

Mmmmmm, shame mate. :banghead: What goes around Daz...............:whistle:;)

_Nathan_

02-04-2010, 06:49 PM

Painted it - cheaper and easier to patch up than wrapping!

Why did you get rid then Daz? Should've kept it even if no racing plans :)

DazBlackCSL

02-04-2010, 06:54 PM

Painted it - cheaper and easier to patch up than wrapping!

Why did you get rid then Daz? Should've kept it even if no racing plans :)

Hmmm :whistle: long story that one :hahaha:

DazBlackCSL

02-04-2010, 06:58 PM

Mmmmmm, shame mate. :banghead: What goes around Daz...............:whistle:;)

Was my little story board car, 4 weddings / home for a eve when I fell out with the missus, and wardrobe for months when I got chucked out, then my race car.. :hahaha: can tell some stories that car !!

AlexGTT

02-04-2010, 07:06 PM

Was my little story board car, 4 weddings / home for a eve when I fell out with the missus, and wardrobe for months when I got chucked out, then my race car.. :hahaha: can tell some stories that car !!

Part of life's rich tapestry mate.;)

glendog74

02-04-2010, 10:56 PM

Car looks good Nathan - like Alex , i too enjoy seeing it evolve each time i'm at Simpson!

Love the side exit exhaust. :thumbs:

glendog74

02-04-2010, 11:01 PM

Car looking sweet Nathan ... I so wish I still had my race car :bigcry:

Mmmmmm, shame mate. :banghead: What goes around Daz...............:whistle:;)

Very true Alex - very true... :whistle:

Why did you get rid then Daz? Should've kept it even if no racing plans :)

Hmmm :whistle: long story that one :hahaha:

:banghead: :smt009 :whistle:

_Nathan_

03-04-2010, 08:48 PM

Sounds like a tale for the pub then...

glendog74

03-04-2010, 10:08 PM

Sounds like a tale for the pub then...

Das Rite - Cha'mone!

Hazy

04-04-2010, 03:31 AM

Very true Alex - very true... :whistle:

:banghead: :smt009 :whistle:

alot of whistling going on there.....:hahaha:

I couldnt understand Daz bailing after just one season either? Perhaps he heard me and Radders were coming and thoight "fook that" :thumbs:

DazBlackCSL

04-04-2010, 09:31 AM

alot of whistling going on there.....:hahaha:

I couldnt understand Daz bailing after just one season either? Perhaps he heard me and Radders were coming and thoight "fook that" :thumbs:

run out of cash and car ... will return some time in the future ;)

alexk

04-04-2010, 10:00 AM

Very nice Nathan !

What are the wheels by the way ?

_Nathan_

04-04-2010, 10:22 AM

Team Dynamics 1.3 - wrong offset though, currently running 18x10 et15 all round but that turns out to be a little too aggressive at the front! going to use 18x10 ET25 all round I think.

alexk

04-04-2010, 10:39 AM

Team Dynamics 1.3 - wrong offset though, currently running 18x10 et15 all round but that turns out to be a little too aggressive at the front! going to use 18x10 ET25 all round I think.

They look very nice in white (because with black wheels, you can't really see the wheel, unless you are half a meter away).
Do you have any closer pics ?

So I guess you put 265/35/18 all around ?

_Nathan_

04-04-2010, 02:03 PM

I will get some better pics when the correct offset ones arrive. Running 250/640r18 all round but may see if a 260 will fit, I suspect not.

shane@mbtech

05-04-2010, 01:17 PM

Mmmmmm, shame mate. :banghead: What goes around Daz...............:whistle:;)

HMMMM and sometimes quicker than people think:whistle:;)

DuncanR

06-05-2010, 05:28 PM

going to use 18x10 ET25 all round I think.

Hey ! ... I have a set of them for sale !!! lol :whistle:

_Nathan_

06-05-2010, 05:44 PM

I thought you'd already taken a deposit on them ;)

DuncanR

06-05-2010, 06:11 PM

Hey ! ... I have a set of them for sale !!! lol :whistle:

SOLD !:hahaha:

_Nathan_

15-07-2010, 06:16 PM

DazBlackCSL

15-07-2010, 06:25 PM

Not quite finished, few more stickers to go on, diffuser is done but no pics of that yet, saw it on the car before and it is big!

Very pleased with the work, lots of little engineering details :thumbs:

Nice Nath ;)

http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-023.GIF (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)

cantfind1

15-07-2010, 06:32 PM

Ah so that was your car I saw the other day getting the stickers put on next door! I was admiring your doorcards as Julian has just made me some and will be fitting them, as well as all the other stuff that's wrong with it!!

Very nice motor!

glendog74

15-07-2010, 06:55 PM

Very nice Nath - i always pore over your car when i'm up at Simpson.

BTW, who's 'Doogle'? :hahaha:

danaldo

15-07-2010, 07:19 PM

Car looks great, when is the first race?

shimmy

15-07-2010, 07:32 PM

Nathan

Red wheels look great in the flesh but I'd White wrap the bonnet and boot I think

I have to say however I did fall in love with the Ginetta G50 that Ant was repairing. I think that is my goal for 2012.

DuncanR

15-07-2010, 07:43 PM

mY COMPANY COLOURS THOSE nATHAN !1 BOLLOX CAPS ...THOUGHT I HAD GOT OVER THAT !

glendog74

15-07-2010, 07:48 PM

Red wheels look great in the flesh

Ahem... :whistle:

have to say however I did fall in love with the Ginetta G50 that Ant was repairing. I think that is my goal for 2012.

Me too - i saw it 2 weeks ago - liking them a lot :thumbs:

_Nathan_

15-07-2010, 07:54 PM

Cheers guys.

Did think about painting the bonnet and boot when the reat of the car was sprayed but decided not to as can always do it in the future, quite like the black now the stickers are on, and the diffuser should tie in nicely too.

G50s are mega competitive, Carl Breeze is quick, quick, quick! What are the costs? Unless you are talking about running a G50 in something else? Lovely cars, agreed.

_Nathan_

15-07-2010, 08:15 PM

PS Shim - ordered another 5 of the red wheels now I know it fits ok! Was tempted to order some white ones too and run red on the front and white on the back...

shimmy

15-07-2010, 08:30 PM

Was tempted to order some white ones too and run red on the front and white on the back...

exactly what i thought too but then if you want to rotate you gonna be mega self contious with your colours mixed up! :gayfight:

shimmy

15-07-2010, 08:37 PM

G50s are mega competitive, Carl Breeze is quick, quick, quick! What are the costs? Unless you are talking about running a G50 in something else? Lovely cars, agreed.

julian says it was £25k second hand, and id probably share it and run endurance and some double headers to keep costs down

G50 ran 1m 12s in 2009 at Snetterton, thats faster than CSL Cup and up there in GT Cup

_Nathan_

15-07-2010, 09:00 PM

Bargain then, thought you were on about running in g50s on toca package!

shimmy

15-07-2010, 09:04 PM

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/8696c0ff.jpg

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/shimmylasco/CSL/bf714ee8.jpg

Ford V6 i think

Dan

15-07-2010, 09:49 PM

The F40 and Triumph shell are still in then! :)

shimmy

15-07-2010, 10:18 PM

The F40 and Triumph shell are still in then! :)

Always an F40 being worked on :)

the Ascari is completed and looks absolutely wonderful

Dan

15-07-2010, 11:03 PM

Always an F40 being worked on :)

the Ascari is completed and looks absolutely wonderful

Wow! It was just on the brink of coming together and being ready for the bodyshell when I was there last! I'd love to see it built up! :smokin:

How was the Rallycross Fiesta with Evo engine and running gear!? :thumbs:

_Nathan_

02-03-2013, 09:27 PM

Blimey, long time since this was updated.

Now a bare shell again :bigcry:

Simpsons have just spent a couple of weeks on the chassis, adding extra bars to the cage and making it left hand drive with new floor area and pedal box mounting, seat a bit more central with transmission tunnel mods as well as cutting out unneeded weight and adding some extra strength in a few places. It also has air jack tubes in now too.

Need to paint interior and start putting it back together, got some nice stuff lined up to go in.

AP Racing now do pedal boxes for drive by wire applications, the tilton one I bought wasn't great for leg room so AP one incoming, heated screen going in too.

Dash, Drenth DG400 Sequential box (no gear lever, just paddles), membrane control panel, power distribution for rear of car

_Nathan_

02-03-2013, 09:29 PM

Front power distribution, ECU, GCU

Bealo

02-03-2013, 09:41 PM

Wow... Looking good Nathan. When do u hope to be back on track racing again?

_Nathan_

02-03-2013, 10:49 PM

Time and money allowing hope to do some stuff before he summer :thumbs:

chicken

03-03-2013, 01:26 PM

:drool:

s.mac

03-03-2013, 08:47 PM

Some nice equipment there :smokin:

_Nathan_

23-03-2013, 04:59 PM

Popped the dash in to see what it'll look like, I'm happy :thumbs:

Bit of work left to do on the shell yet before paint yet though.

CraigMillwardCroft

23-03-2013, 05:30 PM

Looks good cage looks well built too :-D

jibber_monkey

29-08-2013, 10:31 PM

AP Racing now do pedal boxes for drive by wire applications, the tilton one I bought wasn't great for leg room so AP one incoming, heated screen going in too.

Oooooo oooooo ooooooo (monkey noises)! Did you go for the AP drive by wire set up in the end? We're just about to start the build of our e46 M3 for the Kumho Championship and need a drive by wire solution as we're retaining the std ecu (mainly cos I've just sold my Motec M84). AP looks favourite as only other solution we've been able to source is OBP and the least said about that the better!

_Nathan_

29-08-2013, 10:40 PM

Yes but don't think sensor output range is the same as OEM.

M84 doesn't support drive by wire anyway, or Vanos so not the best choice for an S54 regardless.

Have seen implementations with the OEM pedal linked to the AP pedal and they work well if you are keeping the OEM ECU, difficulty is making sure you get full travel.

OEM ECU in a race car is a big compromise though IMO.

jibber_monkey

29-08-2013, 10:54 PM

Thanks for the super speedy response :-)

We're trying to keep things simple with std motor and ecu to get the car out for the last race of the season. depending on how we get on we'll consider management and engine options over the winter.

Given we're racing in the Kumho there doesn't appear to be much point chasing power, just need to map for torque and get the weight of the car right. Out of interest, is there anything specific that the std ecu doesn't like about racing? Heat related retardation, weird mapping issues etc?

_Nathan_

29-08-2013, 11:21 PM

Just a pain in the arse to get working once you start removing bits of loom / sensors and will go to limp mode if everything not perfect or mapped out. Are you keeping ABS?

Few people have moved to throttle cable to bypass the limp by forcing the throttle open :thumbs:, just have to leave the DBW motor in place as without the sensors it goes mental.

Avoid a well known BMW tuning outfit who claim they can make it work standalone but clearly don't have a clue based on the experience of a customer. Promised the world and after many delays delivered a car that wasn't usable.

jibber_monkey

29-08-2013, 11:47 PM

Hmmmmm looks like we may be in the market for an M800... Will drop you a PM tomorrow :-)

Definitely not going to keep the ABS.

_Nathan_

30-08-2013, 12:01 AM

I'm keeping ABS in mine with an M190, if you have a CSL/CS unit (or a unit with the CSL/CS software) I think it is worth keeping, you just need to run 2 brake pressures + yaw sensor and the 4 wheel speeds.

CSL register discount applies but no pressure, there is a guy in ireland who can get it working ok but it is still harder to use on a race weekend in terms of seeing what is going on / logging etc.