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Gazza
23-01-2020, 12:38 AM
Yet again the SMG gets slagged off, surely these are just copycat reviews.




https://youtu.be/I2g2mTKgX5E

monkeycsl
23-01-2020, 11:49 AM
I'm sure the owners of csl's that used to hunt down gt3rs at the ring used to moan about the crappy SMG:whistle:

CraigMillwardCroft
23-01-2020, 06:52 PM
I was always use to prefer gears, but got use to the CSL and love it, do not need to move hands from steering wheel when driving hard on track days, never lock up back wheels like I did on my RS500 manual box. :thumbs:

Brendanmck
24-01-2020, 10:02 PM
At this stage the majority of YouTube reviews featuring the m3 csl are all full of mis information shoddy research and you guessed it lets all find fault with the smg gearbox and how perfect the car would be if it was manual (funny my memories of my previous e46 manual gearbox were it wasn’t all that great either) there’s endless comparisons with modern dual clutch gearbox’s which don’t get me wrong I think are fantastic but a little soulless. Car companies are now programming these dual clutch gearboxes to shift harsher just to give there cars some character. Exactly what the csl has in abundance is character. Most if not all YouTube reviewers don’t own the csl they are reviewing and probably don’t get to spend long with the cars witch isn’t long enough to learn the characteristics of the smg gearbox it has so many different personalities some infuriating but some intoxicating as we know. They praise the csl for all of it’s obvious attributes but maybe if they can get to know these cars a little bit better and stop comparing them to modern super fast shifting dual clutch cars then we will get a review of what the csl is and not what some on YouTube want it to be.

shimmy
25-01-2020, 07:39 PM
I think the Smg was never great day to day and made worse by lengthy lazy road use. But driven hard and high rev changes and it soon went back to its best

alexk
26-01-2020, 06:14 AM
I am a bit indifferent about these reviews.
I personally love the CSL and the SMG :thumbs:

CraigMillwardCroft
26-01-2020, 04:47 PM
At this stage the majority of YouTube reviews featuring the m3 csl are all full of mis information shoddy research and you guessed it lets all find fault with the smg gearbox and how perfect the car would be if it was manual (funny my memories of my previous e46 manual gearbox were it wasn’t all that great either) there’s endless comparisons with modern dual clutch gearbox’s which don’t get me wrong I think are fantastic but a little soulless. Car companies are now programming these dual clutch gearboxes to shift harsher just to give there cars some character. Exactly what the csl has in abundance is character. Most if not all YouTube reviewers don’t own the csl they are reviewing and probably don’t get to spend long with the cars witch isn’t long enough to learn the characteristics of the smg gearbox it has so many different personalities some infuriating but some intoxicating as we know. They praise the csl for all of it’s obvious attributes but maybe if they can get to know these cars a little bit better and stop comparing them to modern super fast shifting dual clutch cars then we will get a review of what the csl is and not what some on YouTube want it to be.
Well said :thumbs:

CraigMillwardCroft
26-01-2020, 04:47 PM
I am a bit indifferent about these reviews.
I personally love the CSL and the SMG :thumbs:

:thumbs:

911-32
30-01-2020, 02:10 PM
At this stage the majority of YouTube reviews featuring the m3 csl are all full of mis information shoddy research and you guessed it lets all find fault with the smg gearbox and how perfect the car would be if it was manual (funny my memories of my previous e46 manual gearbox were it wasn’t all that great either) there’s endless comparisons with modern dual clutch gearbox’s which don’t get me wrong I think are fantastic but a little soulless. Car companies are now programming these dual clutch gearboxes to shift harsher just to give there cars some character. Exactly what the csl has in abundance is character. Most if not all YouTube reviewers don’t own the csl they are reviewing and probably don’t get to spend long with the cars witch isn’t long enough to learn the characteristics of the smg gearbox it has so many different personalities some infuriating but some intoxicating as we know. They praise the csl for all of it’s obvious attributes but maybe if they can get to know these cars a little bit better and stop comparing them to modern super fast shifting dual clutch cars then we will get a review of what the csl is and not what some on YouTube want it to be.

This is so on the money ^^^

Being a died in the wool manual guy with no prior experience of SMG, this is pretty much my view as well. You need to involve yourself with SMG in order to get the best from it. It is truly interactive in this sense and captivating. So far, I love it warts and all.

CraigMillwardCroft
30-01-2020, 05:59 PM
This is so on the money ^^^

Being a died in the wool manual guy with no prior experience of SMG, this is pretty much my view as well. You need to involve yourself with SMG in order to get the best from it. It is truly interactive in this sense and captivating. So far, I love it warts and all.

:thumbs:

khooni
31-01-2020, 02:01 PM
hindsight is a lovely thing...

if i hadn't had a csl , I would have insisted on manual (after reading all the reviews) but after owning one, I wouldn't have it any other way.

sure the smg gearbox has more stuff to go wrong but full bore shifts and rev matched downshifts are unnmatchable in speed (when compared to manual). I have the F80 m3 cp and guess what I drive it in auto. There is no point using paddles. I would hate it for the csl to be like that.