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Robbidge
25-06-2019, 10:02 AM
For sale my cherished M3 CSL in silver grey,
In excellent condition inside and out.
Subtle upgrades including
AP racing red BBK, (originals included)
Supersprint centre section, (original included)
Gruppe M titanium back box, (original included)
Bilstien B6 Oe equivalent shocks,
Carbon fibre flappy paddles, (originals included),
Itg lifetime air filter + spare,
Powerflex bushes all round (except wishbones)
Diff cage shot blasted and powder coated,
Just been into Redish motorsport for RACP repair and underfloor corrosion clean up and respray.
New clutch and flywheel just because the release bearing was starting to fail,
Two sets of genuine refurbished wheels (one set with new mps cups) other with new Goodyear eagle f1 rears, new contisport contact 6 fronts , (found pilot sports wear quicker).
Part service history (as maintained personally since ownership), lots of receipts, owners manual, csl wallet, 3 keys, 2 main/1 valet.
Owned the car for 11 years and is regrettably time to let it go.
I have personally maintained and serviced the car (apart from recent Redish works),
I gave it an inspection 2 in 2017 @ 45363 miles including valve clearance, gear box fluid, diff seal and fluid and it has an oil change every 12 months regardless of mileage,
New gear position switch, new salmon relay,
46300 miles.
This car is immaculate and has been looked after like a child,
The only downsides which didn’t put me off as I know my stuff is that in 2007 it was ridiculously category D written off due to being sat in fresh flood water for a couple of hours. (No different to driving it in heavy rain). It was then auctioned off to the previous owner and unfortunately due to this receipts and previous paperwork got lost.
But as you are all aware these cars are the ultimate and this is too good an example to let it affect the sale.
Private M3 XTM (eXTreMe) plates.
The car is a joy to drive as it should be and I’m gutted it’s time to let the CSL go.

£55,000
This car wants for nothing and needs nothing except someone who can give it more time it deserves than I now can!
Please only serious buyers and any questions welcome.
PM for pictures.

Rob.

missy
25-06-2019, 03:36 PM
For sale my cherished M3 CSL in silver grey,
In excellent condition inside and out.
Subtle upgrades including
AP racing red BBK, (originals included)
Supersprint centre section, (original included)
Gruppe M titanium back box, (original included)
Bilstien B6 Oe equivalent shocks,
Carbon fibre flappy paddles, (originals included),
Itg lifetime air filter + spare,
Powerflex bushes all round (except wishbones)
Diff cage shot blasted and powder coated,
Just been into Redish motorsport for RACP repair and underfloor corrosion clean up and respray.
New clutch and flywheel just because the release bearing was starting to fail,
Two sets of genuine refurbished wheels (one set with new mps cups) other with new Goodyear eagle f1 rears, new contisport contact 6 fronts , (found pilot sports wear quicker).
Part service history (as maintained personally since ownership), lots of receipts, owners manual, csl wallet, 3 keys, 2 main/1 valet.
Owned the car for 11 years and is regrettably time to let it go.
I have personally maintained and serviced the car (apart from recent Redish works),
I gave it an inspection 2 in 2017 @ 45363 miles including valve clearance, gear box fluid, diff seal and fluid and it has an oil change every 12 months regardless of mileage,
New gear position switch, new salmon relay,
46300 miles.
This car is immaculate and has been looked after like a child,
The only downsides which didn’t put me off as I know my stuff is that in 2007 it was ridiculously category D written off due to being sat in fresh flood water for a couple of hours. (No different to driving it in heavy rain). It was then auctioned off to the previous owner and unfortunately due to this receipts and previous paperwork got lost.
But as you are all aware these cars are the ultimate and this is too good an example to let it affect the sale.
Private M3 XTM (eXTreMe) plates.
The car is a joy to drive as it should be and I’m gutted it’s time to let the CSL go.

£58,000
This car wants for nothing and needs nothing except someone who can give it more time it deserves than I now can!
Please only serious buyers and any questions welcome.
PM for pictures.

Rob.


That’s some price for a Category D written off :whistle: :whistle:

Robbidge
25-06-2019, 06:09 PM
That’s some price for a Category D written off :whistle: :whistle:

Oops was supposed to be £55,000.
And it maybe labelled a cat D but it was pointlessly written off (as is with most cat D’s).
The frustrating thing with it is the fact there are cars out there that have had crash damage and worse yet get sold on as clean, when all that happened to mine was that it got a good clean (excuse the pun)!

missy
25-06-2019, 07:42 PM
Oops was supposed to be £55,000.
And it maybe labelled a cat D but it was pointlessly written off (as is with most cat D’s).
The frustrating thing with it is the fact there are cars out there that have had crash damage and worse yet get sold on as clean, when all that happened to mine was that it got a good clean (excuse the pun)!


Yes I get your point but by you don’t appear to have any relevant paper work
To support your case regarding the cat D as it appears to have been lost:whistle:

This alone will put any serious buyers off for sure.

ZKMI
25-06-2019, 08:16 PM
Good luck with the sale buddy.:supz:

Perhaps consider removing the comment comparing the Cat D issue as being the same as driving in heavy rain..:whistle:

Yanto
25-06-2019, 08:18 PM
No offence, but given cat D and non-dealer servicing, I think you’re over by about £15-£20k based on standard car. My advice is strip non-std parts and sell separately to get a return, return those bits to std and market for late £30s.

Robbidge
25-06-2019, 09:16 PM
No offence, but given cat D and non-dealer servicing, I think you’re over by about £15-£20k based on standard car. My advice is strip non-std parts and sell separately to get a return, return those bits to std and market for late £30s.

No offence taken, I did want to put it back to standard but I’ve not long purchased a house which needs a lot of work (hence having to sell it, if I could find a way to keep it I would) and it’s finding the time.
But think I may have to find the time to do it.

Yanto
25-06-2019, 09:55 PM
No offence taken, I did want to put it back to standard but I’ve not long purchased a house which needs a lot of work (hence having to sell it, if I could find a way to keep it I would) and it’s finding the time.
But think I may have to find the time to do it.

I think that’d give you a better return matey :beer:

Good luck.

Chad
25-06-2019, 10:04 PM
Love the thought of a csl being worth £55k but in all honesty has anyone actually pulled this kind of money,, recently of ever, ?? Even with full service history, I probably paid more than most Current owners for my csl back In 04 ,,I’d be over the moon to get that kind of money if selling , Or this kind of money only in cuckoo land :whistle: but good luck selling, ? Is this 4000 Trackday mileage per year with the mods, or road miles ??

Robbidge
25-06-2019, 10:20 PM
Love the thought of a csl being worth £55k but in all honesty has anyone actually pulled this kind of money,, recently of ever, ?? Even with full service history, I probably paid more than most Current owners for my csl back In 04 ,,I’d be over the moon to get that kind of money if selling , Or this kind of money only in cuckoo land :whistle: but good luck selling, ? Is this 4000 Trackday mileage per year with the mods, or road miles ??

Never been tracked in my ownership, I’m just sad and do mods just for aesthetics and personal preference!

still no worries
26-06-2019, 12:14 PM
Hi
So is it better to spend £55k on a cat D with 46000 or £55k on a non cat D with double those miles and a service history ?

Robbidge
26-06-2019, 03:14 PM
Hi
So is it better to spend £55k on a cat D with 46000 or £55k on a non cat D with double those miles and a service history ?

Well that came into my thinking when I bought the car.
Cat D’s are generally written off for petty pointless things.

All I was interested in was
No chassis damage- check
No body damage and good paint- check
Structurally sound- check
Mechanically sound- check
And proof of all important running in service- check

Anything else doesn’t bother me, service history doesn’t interest me as it still doesn’t prove how the car is treated in between services, just because it has some paperwork doesn’t mean it hasn’t been ragged to within an inch of its life.
At the end of the day buying any car is a gamble.

I once went to see my mate who works in a body shop working on an unregistered merc with 90% of the passenger door covered with filler ready to be sent back across the road to a main merc dealer to spray then be sold on to an unsuspecting owner thinking it’d just arrived from Germany in perfect condition.

But at the end of the day, each to their own!
Everyone has their own logic and as usual mine appears twisted!:thumbs:

Yanto
26-06-2019, 03:59 PM
Hi
So is it better to spend £55k on a cat D with 46000 or £55k on a non cat D with double those miles and a service history ?

Wouldn’t be anything like that imo.

I doubt I’d get much more than £40k for my 83k mile car with FBMWSH and extd warranty - std car with extra bits (wheels, steering wheel, trip, flippers, dealer extras etc)

Chad
26-06-2019, 04:29 PM
Totally agree with rob regarding service history , but I would as I also do my own :blalalala:,, but I do believe most are very anal regarding service history,, so probably will affect sale at top price ,, way I look at it what I’ve saved on services, I guess I’d would offset some value in asking price to get a sale, I recon 55k is optimistic at the moment for a quick sale,, hope you get it rob :thumbs: Would be interesting if them that have sold would reveal what they got ,, give us all a realistic value. :whistle:

still no worries
26-06-2019, 04:50 PM
What about 21000 miles and full service history
AP brakes and a super sprint race back box ?
How much ?????

Chad
26-06-2019, 05:42 PM
What about 21000 miles and full service history
AP brakes and a super sprint race back box ?
How much ?????
Will it have a service history, bet mine will have moor , :blalalala:

Trawler
26-06-2019, 06:12 PM
What about 21000 miles and full service history
AP brakes and a super sprint race back box ?
How much ?????

Slower, or faster colour? Quicker ones fetch a premium :hahaha:

Robbidge
26-06-2019, 07:03 PM
What about 21000 miles and full service history
AP brakes and a super sprint race back box ?
How much ?????

According to one on eBay with similar mileage yours is worth £73k.

I’m no car salesman or vehicle estimater I’m just a normal bloke and all I’ve done is taken the average price of ones I’ve seen with similar to slightly higher miles and condition based on pictures and gone with that minus a few k to allow for the cat d and lack of history!

It would be nice to know what some of these do actually go for in the end.

Robbidge
26-06-2019, 07:11 PM
Totally agree with rob regarding service history , but I would as I also do my own :blalalala:,, but I do believe most are very anal regarding service history,, so probably will affect sale at top price ,, way I look at it what I’ve saved on services, I guess I’d would offset some value in asking price to get a sale, I recon 55k is optimistic at the moment for a quick sale,, hope you get it rob :thumbs: Would be interesting if them that have sold would reveal what they got ,, give us all a realistic value. :whistle:

Cheers chad,
Nice to know someone else does their own works and see’s my point of view.
And it would seem the price going by the feedback and shock the price is optimistic. It would be interesting to know what the realistic values are.
I will certainly reconsider the price,
Also returning it to standard aswel looks like it will maybe help.

ZKMI
26-06-2019, 09:03 PM
Extended BMW Warranty was a must for me..but not so important for anyone that does their own work.

Remove the mods as mentioned above and see how it goes..shame you can’t locate some form of paperwork on the Cat D history?

GLWS.

Chad
27-06-2019, 04:22 PM
Anybody prepared to say what they really got from selling csl recently :whistle:

Trawler
27-06-2019, 09:21 PM
Anybody prepared to say what they really got from selling csl recently :whistle:

Are any sellers still on here?

Mark CSL
27-06-2019, 10:11 PM
Nothing wrong with a cat D if its cheap i just dont get how people think its worth the same as a non crash car :whistle: or is this just me

also history is a must if i was spending over 10k never mind 50k




Dont get me wrong i owned an e36 M3 on a Q plate way back

but thats was 13k when a non cat car was 28k

Harwoodandy
28-06-2019, 12:04 AM
Anybody prepared to say what they really got from selling csl recently :whistle:

There are very few actually selling.
There are cars that have really been for sale for years - nice cars, fairly priced but just no takers. Some private, some at reputable dealers, Low mileage garage queens right through to the thrashed unloved dogs and everything in between.
I wouldn't like to be punting a Cat D for that kind of money unless i was prepared for a very long wait
GLWS OP - please keep us posted on how you get on (not being sarcy, would genuinely like to know)

knoxville
28-06-2019, 12:38 AM
Be great if you did get that sort of money for it.

I would only expect that money for my similarly spec'd 50k mile CSL that hasn't been swimming.

Good luck!

Chad
28-06-2019, 10:23 AM
Are any sellers still on here?

Probably not :whistle: so will ask anybody prepared to say what they paid recently for a csl , or even how much the got off the asking price ,, that could give the real value,,,, I’ll start it off we paid 45 In o4 ,, mega deal ,,:smokin:

still no worries
28-06-2019, 12:11 PM
So you paid £45kin 2004,
What miles ?

Chad
28-06-2019, 12:44 PM
So you paid £45kin 2004,
What miles ?
Both cars pre reg to blue bell bmw wilmslow ,, called them manager cars I think was the term ,, 1800 miles and 3500 approx 1800 mile car actually had 1200 miles , but bmw wouldn’t Allow it to be sold until it had clocked another 600 miles , so rep drove it for 600 miles over the weekend :,, just about 200,000 miles between them now most of that covered 5 years ago,, Probably. Only done about 3k a year recently,, I need to get out more ,,

still no worries
28-06-2019, 12:47 PM
Nice !
I paid £37k in 06 with 7000 miles

Trawler
28-06-2019, 06:36 PM
£32 in middle of 06.
Front APs and serviced before I picked it up.
19k miles

M5 Powered
07-07-2019, 09:45 PM
I remember talking to a guy at Sytner Stratford some years back who said very few of the later CSL's sold at full price. Ie. there was some hefty discounting or as mentioned 'manager' cars where the dealer uses them as a PR car before pushing them out to market.

It is amazing how much of a discount can be offered on certain cars.
I have a friend who got a brand new £80K 7series for £45K and that was
an ordered car... not a demonstrator.

Furthermore he was going to pay cash but noted it was actually cheaper to take out BMW finance @1.5% and then invest his money over the term. Also with the finance, you got free servicing whereas the cash payment you didn't.
Guess they hope it then just 'locks' you into the brand when it comes to balloon payment or new car sir? time :whistle:

Chad
08-07-2019, 07:27 PM
I remember talking to a guy at Sytner Stratford some years back who said very few of the later CSL's sold at full price. Ie. there was some hefty discounting or as mentioned 'manager' cars where the dealer uses them as a PR car before pushing them out to market.

It is amazing how much of a discount can be offered on certain cars.
I have a friend who got a brand new £80K 7series for £45K and that was
an ordered car... not a demonstrator.

Furthermore he was going to pay cash but noted it was actually cheaper to take out BMW finance @1.5% and then invest his money over the term. Also with the finance, you got free servicing whereas the cash payment you didn't.
Guess they hope it then just 'locks' you into the brand when it comes to balloon payment or new car sir? time :whistle:
Just about what you’re saying. We asked if dealership could track us another csl And got lee his no option csl with just the run in mileage as said previously,,:smokin: