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shimmy
14-01-2017, 10:26 AM
Cant beleive this will be my 4th year with a licence and racing, seems like only yesterday I thought this would be a financial mistake.........should have listened to myself :). - (dont ask). Certainly helps sharing the costs, and whilst having partners can be painful, picking a good one has proven a godsend tbh, toilet breaks aside.:)

anyway, Betsy has gone and with that we have Dora to replace her. Hope she is as lucky as Betsy. It is about winning but a huge amount of luck goes with racing and what we really want is to start and finish races, competitively would be nice, a win or two would be great.

THis year with Dora we have an E46 M3 race car that was raced last year in CSCC NEw Millennium (against us) and Kuhmo BMW. She was competative in both with a race win or two at the hands of a reasonably new driver like us, so with luck on our side we should be able to put in some decent lap times and put some pressure on cars which have had bigger budgets and better figures (dont mention the ones that have lower budgets and worse figures :) )

Dora was bought in October and weighs about 1150kg, with light doors and front wings. She has ATS coilovers, standard ECU, OE 5 manual speed gearbox, 4:10 diff (E36), Alcon brakes, carbon airbox, an engine rebuild by JC which probably should give us a slightly better bhp along with a map by Wayne at Chipwizards. We will run probably DZ03G again, along with Rainsports for wet weather, maybe a soft inter for those damp days as it can be a big advantage.

All we have doen to her since purchase is:

1. Refresh engine at JC
2. Refresh diff at JC
3. New race clutch and lightened flywheel
4. A few small additions to the cage to the front turrets and rear diff.
5. CAE shifter
6. Maintenance on bushes and geo

And hen probably off with the GTR livery and soemthing simple and new so people can see us coming!

CSCC NEw Millennium is a bit like MOdern CLassics but for cars post 2000. You can mod pretty well anything and drenth, aero, motek, smg etc all ok if you can afford it (some can and have) but as there are win penalties, the cash spend does get wasted if it only gives you one win, so it seems to mainly stop the guys from spending very big.

New Millennium are 30 min qualifying, 40 minute races, with a driver change between 10 and 25 mins, prize for class win and overall wins all held over one day of the two day event. Looks like this year we will have I reckon 10-12 M3 as well as all of rest of the class cars like CLios CUps buzzing around. Calendar for 2017.....

Snetterton 300
Thruxton
Silverstone International
Spa
July
Castle Combe
Croft
Donington National
Oulton Park
Brands Hatch Indy.

WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF YOU?

shimmy
14-01-2017, 10:31 AM
A few pics

khooni
14-01-2017, 03:18 PM
wonderful. awesome. best of luck with your campaign.

Yanto
14-01-2017, 03:56 PM
Good luck Shim......lot of car for you to handle that ;)

AlexGTT
14-01-2017, 04:13 PM
Good stuff Shim, you're gonna toast them with that thing. :beer:

Well, after thinking about it for a few years I'm finally sorting my race licence and booking ARDS at Castle Combe for Spring. Vintage and Historic stuff for me and a little bit forced into it if I'm honest. Share ownership of a 1948 single seater with a Norwegian. Car hasn't been raced for 30 years but has just been invited to attend a few prestigious events because of it's racing history. The other guy can't make the various dates but we have agreed it has to attend and run for the sake of it's value alone. Therefore it's down to me!

My guys have just stripped it down for a comprehensive re-fresh and improvements. However, non of your newfangled safety stuff here like roll cages and harnesses, so I'm a little nervous! :whistle: Hillclimbs first off, so Chateau Impney, Prescott, Shelsley Walsh and maybe Goodwood FOS first events.

AlexGTT
14-01-2017, 04:19 PM
Here she is in hillclimb set up. Am I doing the right thing? :bigcry:

O'Neill
14-01-2017, 05:04 PM
Cant beleive this will be my 4th year with a licence and racing, seems like only yesterday I thought this would be a financial mistake.........should have listened to myself :). - (dont ask). Certainly helps sharing the costs, and whilst having partners can be painful, picking a good one has proven a godsend tbh, toilet breaks aside.:)

anyway, Betsy has gone and with that we have Dora to replace her. Hope she is as lucky as Betsy. It is about winning but a huge amount of luck goes with racing and what we really want is to start and finish races, competitively would be nice, a win or two would be great.

THis year with Dora we have an E46 M3 race car that was raced last year in CSCC NEw Millennium (against us) and Kuhmo BMW. She was competative in both with a race win or two at the hands of a reasonably new driver like us, so with luck on our side we should be able to put in some decent lap times and put some pressure on cars which have had bigger budgets and better figures (dont mention the ones that have lower budgets and worse figures :) )

Dora was bought in October and weighs about 1150kg, with light doors and front wings. She has ATS coilovers, standard ECU, OE 5 manual speed gearbox, 4:10 diff (E36), Alcon brakes, carbon airbox, an engine rebuild by JC which probably should give us a slightly better bhp along with a map by Wayne at Chipwizards. We will run probably DZ03G again, along with Rainsports for wet weather, maybe a soft inter for those damp days as it can be a big advantage.

All we have doen to her since purchase is:

1. Refresh engine at JC
2. Refresh diff at JC
3. New race clutch and lightened flywheel
4. A few small additions to the cage to the front turrets and rear diff.
5. CAE shifter
6. Maintenance on bushes and geo

And hen probably off with the GTR livery and soemthing simple and new so people can see us coming!

CSCC NEw Millennium is a bit like MOdern CLassics but for cars post 2000. You can mod pretty well anything and drenth, aero, motek, smg etc all ok if you can afford it (some can and have) but as there are win penalties, the cash spend does get wasted if it only gives you one win, so it seems to mainly stop the guys from spending very big.

New Millennium are 30 min qualifying, 40 minute races, with a driver change between 10 and 25 mins, prize for class win and overall wins all held over one day of the two day event. Looks like this year we will have I reckon 10-12 M3 as well as all of rest of the class cars like CLios CUps buzzing around. Calendar for 2017.....

Snetterton 300
Thruxton
Silverstone International
Spa
July
Castle Combe
Croft
Donington National
Oulton Park
Brands Hatch Indy.

WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF YOU?

Subtly got the racing excuses in;):)

Good stuff Shim, you're gonna toast them with that thing. :beer:

Well, after thinking about it for a few years I'm finally sorting my race licence and booking ARDS at Castle Combe for Spring. Vintage and Historic stuff for me and a little bit forced into it if I'm honest. Share ownership of a 1948 single seater with a Norwegian. Car hasn't been raced for 30 years but has just been invited to attend a few prestigious events because of it's racing history. The other guy can't make the various dates but we have agreed it has to attend and run for the sake of it's value alone. Therefore it's down to me!

My guys have just stripped it down for a comprehensive re-fresh and improvements. However, non of your newfangled safety stuff here like roll cages and harnesses, so I'm a little nervous! :whistle: Hillclimbs first off, so Chateau Impney, Prescott, Shelsley Walsh and maybe Goodwood FOS first events.

Wow, very lucky to be driving that let alone competing in it.

Good luck Alex and keep us updated, maybe some tickets for a event.

shimmy
14-01-2017, 05:12 PM
Good stuff Shim, you're gonna toast them with that thing. :beer:

Well, after thinking about it for a few years I'm finally sorting my race licence and booking ARDS at Castle Combe for Spring. Vintage and Historic stuff for me and a little bit forced into it if I'm honest. Share ownership of a 1948 single seater with a Norwegian. Car hasn't been raced for 30 years but has just been invited to attend a few prestigious events because of it's racing history. The other guy can't make the various dates but we have agreed it has to attend and run for the sake of it's value alone. Therefore it's down to me!

My guys have just stripped it down for a comprehensive re-fresh and improvements. However, non of your newfangled safety stuff here like roll cages and harnesses, so I'm a little nervous! :whistle: Hillclimbs first off, so Chateau Impney, Prescott, Shelsley Walsh and maybe Goodwood FOS first events.

Superb Alex.....we will def be there to watch wherever you race or climb. I'm an expert with a brolly

billyboysm3
14-01-2017, 06:21 PM
Spec looks awesome and with all the mods weighing in at 1150kg that's a weapon right there. Someone has spent some £££££

4.1 diff and cae shifter are brilliant mods.

Good luck 😉

That's got to be doing 2.05's at snett?

O'Neill
14-01-2017, 06:59 PM
Cant beleive this will be my 4th year with a licence and racing, seems like only yesterday I thought this would be a financial mistake.........should have listened to myself :). - (dont ask). Certainly helps sharing the costs, and whilst having partners can be painful, picking a good one has proven a godsend tbh, toilet breaks aside.:)

anyway, Betsy has gone and with that we have Dora to replace her. Hope she is as lucky as Betsy. It is about winning but a huge amount of luck goes with racing and what we really want is to start and finish races, competitively would be nice, a win or two would be great.

THis year with Dora we have an E46 M3 race car that was raced last year in CSCC NEw Millennium (against us) and Kuhmo BMW. She was competative in both with a race win or two at the hands of a reasonably new driver like us, so with luck on our side we should be able to put in some decent lap times and put some pressure on cars which have had bigger budgets and better figures (dont mention the ones that have lower budgets and worse figures :) )

Dora was bought in October and weighs about 1150kg, with light doors and front wings. She has ATS coilovers, standard ECU, OE 5 manual speed gearbox, 4:10 diff (E36), Alcon brakes, carbon airbox, an engine rebuild by JC which probably should give us a slightly better bhp along with a map by Wayne at Chipwizards. We will run probably DZ03G again, along with Rainsports for wet weather, maybe a soft inter for those damp days as it can be a big advantage.

All we have doen to her since purchase is:

1. Refresh engine at JC
2. Refresh diff at JC
3. New race clutch and lightened flywheel
4. A few small additions to the cage to the front turrets and rear diff.
5. CAE shifter
6. Maintenance on bushes and geo

And hen probably off with the GTR livery and soemthing simple and new so people can see us coming!

CSCC NEw Millennium is a bit like MOdern CLassics but for cars post 2000. You can mod pretty well anything and drenth, aero, motek, smg etc all ok if you can afford it (some can and have) but as there are win penalties, the cash spend does get wasted if it only gives you one win, so it seems to mainly stop the guys from spending very big.

New Millennium are 30 min qualifying, 40 minute races, with a driver change between 10 and 25 mins, prize for class win and overall wins all held over one day of the two day event. Looks like this year we will have I reckon 10-12 M3 as well as all of rest of the class cars like CLios CUps buzzing around. Calendar for 2017.....

Snetterton 300
Thruxton
Silverstone International
Spa
July
Castle Combe
Croft
Donington National
Oulton Park
Brands Hatch Indy.

WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF YOU?

Love you too:smt055. Roll on March/April, testing and first race:smokin:

jupe777
14-01-2017, 07:08 PM
New race car sounds awesome Shimmy and Alex that looks like terrific fun. 2016 was my first year as a racing driver after joining the Caterham Academy, unbelievable good fun and a great bunch of guys, we were all novices although some were very good. Managed 5 podiums and 3 lap records, best was a 2nd and finished 3rd overall so pretty pleased. Made loads of mistakes though but was to be expected I suppose. For 2017 I've skipped roadsport and tracksport and gone straight to Supersport (actually called 310R championship now). This is the highest I can upgrade the Academy car. Qualifying is 20mins and 30min races (2 per weekend). The drivers are far more experienced in the 310R championship so expect to get my arse royally spanked but will be a great learning curve. We are racing at:-
Snetterton 300
Spa
Brands Indy
Donington
Oulton
Rockingham
Silverstone International
So we have a great calendar which I am so looking forward to.

shimmy
14-01-2017, 07:26 PM
Spec looks awesome and with all the mods weighing in at 1150kg that's a weapon right there. Someone has spent some £££££

4.1 diff and cae shifter are brilliant mods.

Good luck ��

That's got to be doing 2.05's at snett?


All the cars on the grid are either half built race cars or fully built ones, as you know what tends to happen is they first get built to a lesser spec and with less effort then people realise to be competative generally you need to at leat build a race car, rather than an upgraded road car. Dora is no different, but is certainly not to the spec or cost of for instance Pier's car. Not saying his is miles faster as once you get to the final upgrades they dont typically give you whole seconds, but tenths and better traction and control ability say in the wet (playing with the Motek if you have it).

I think we will be able to compete with all the cars this year, maybe a win if we are lucky, but should be some great racing.

billyboysm3
14-01-2017, 08:40 PM
All the cars on the grid are either half built race cars or fully built ones, as you know what tends to happen is they first get built to a lesser spec and with less effort then people realise to be competative generally you need to at leat build a race car, rather than an upgraded road car. Dora is no different, but is certainly not to the spec or cost of for instance Pier's car. Not saying his is miles faster as once you get to the final upgrades they dont typically give you whole seconds, but tenths and better traction and control ability say in the wet (playing with the Motek if you have it).

I think we will be able to compete with all the cars this year, maybe a win if we are lucky, but should be some great racing.

Keep updating this thread.

What's piers motek? Does that control his amp and sub woofers?

shimmy
14-01-2017, 09:47 PM
Keep updating this thread.

What's piers motek? Does that control his amp and sub woofers?

No mainly the purple lights and disco ball

shimmy
14-01-2017, 10:00 PM
New race car sounds awesome Shimmy and Alex that looks like terrific fun. 2016 was my first year as a racing driver after joining the Caterham Academy, unbelievable good fun and a great bunch of guys, we were all novices although some were very good. Managed 5 podiums and 3 lap records, best was a 2nd and finished 3rd overall so pretty pleased. Made loads of mistakes though but was to be expected I suppose. For 2017 I've skipped roadsport and tracksport and gone straight to Supersport (actually called 310R championship now). This is the highest I can upgrade the Academy car. Qualifying is 20mins and 30min races (2 per weekend). The drivers are far more experienced in the 310R championship so expect to get my arse royally spanked but will be a great learning curve. We are racing at:-
Snetterton 300
Spa
Brands Indy
Donington
Oulton
Rockingham
Silverstone International
So we have a great calendar which I am so looking forward to.

My bro did Academy in 2010 and then next level 2011. Went to loads of his races and helped out. No good for me, I just don't fit safely in a Caterham

AlexGTT
14-01-2017, 10:21 PM
Thanks Barry, it's certainly quite lively. 700kg with 250bhp and 365 lb/ft. Traction is the main issue. Not much grip but handling is sweet.

Going back to supercharged spec after this season. That will add 20kg or so but then will be 365bhp+ and well over 400 torques! It was supercharged from new in 1948 until 1955.

Will be looking forward to seeing you and Shim in action. Keep you informed for tickets. ;)

For my season I'll let you have season dates Shim. Can only remember Chateau Impney is 8/9th July and think Shelsley Walsh Classic Nostalgia event is 22/23rd July. Other VSCC events but will post dates later.

alexk
15-01-2017, 09:31 AM
@Shimmy the car looks great :thumbs:
Best of luck with it !

@Alex, fantastic looking car and you are definitely doing the right thing !

rstoughy
15-01-2017, 10:58 AM
YESSSS!!!
Cars look great guys :supz: :supz: :supz:

Best of luck for the upcoming season folks :thumbs:

shimmy
15-01-2017, 11:05 AM
YESSSS!!!
Cars look great guys :supz: :supz: :supz:

Best of luck for the upcoming season folks :thumbs:

I think you may have forgotten YOUR update :)

jupe777
15-01-2017, 08:39 PM
Shimmy, in the E46 race car what would be a healthy lap around Snett 300 and Brands Indy?

shimmy
15-01-2017, 10:05 PM
Shimmy, in the E46 race car what would be a healthy lap around Snett 300 and Brands Indy?

This car has done in a race or qualifying a 54.2s on 1A tyres in CSCC and 51.8s on slicks in Kumho BMW.

Id hope we could do better but as you know lots of variables (and the 51.8s on slicks was a good time on that day) and m3 cup cars are doing 53-54s. BRands is not a power circuit so set up and driver skill will have a more than usual levelling effect.

It has done a 2m07.2 at Snetterton but is suspect best time will be 2m05-06 similar to other front running cars. On slicks they run at 2m02s ish. M3 Cup are doing about 2m10-12 but I suspect the Nangkangs are the limiting factor

jupe777
15-01-2017, 10:18 PM
This car has done in a race or qualifying a 54.2s on 1A tyres in CSCC and 51.8s on slicks in Kumho BMW.

Id hope we could do better but as you know lots fo variables (and the 51.8s on slicks was a good time on that day)

Cheers, I was interested to see how the M3 would compare to the Caterham, around Brands a very good lap would be low 53's on road legal rubber and snett would be 2:09/2:10 for a very good lap, my thinking would be the M3 would be quicker with the long straights on the 300?

shimmy
15-01-2017, 10:28 PM
Cheers, I was interested to see how the M3 would compare to the Caterham, around Brands a very good lap would be low 53's on road legal rubber and snett would be 2:09/2:10 for a very good lap, my thinking would be the M3 would be quicker with the long straights on the 300?

The caterhams are hilarious at SNett iirc as they draft each other on both straights each lap so you get a continuous overtake and reovertake

jupe777
16-01-2017, 12:32 AM
The caterhams are hilarious at SNett iirc as they draft each other on both straights each lap so you get a continuous overtake and reovertake

Haha yes lots of swapping places, it can be hard to get away. You are often better off working as a pair to break away or catch up with the lead pack.

CraigMillwardCroft
16-01-2017, 06:56 PM
Great looking car good luck this season :thumbs:

PolarisCSL
16-01-2017, 08:47 PM
No mainly the purple lights and disco ball

You noticed! My car does have all the mod cons :supz:

I have just signed up for kumho too - 22 M3's in class A1 so far! I think some poo will come out starting on a grid with that lot.

shimmy
16-01-2017, 11:23 PM
You noticed! My car does have all the mod cons :supz:

I have just signed up for kumho too - 22 M3's in class A1 so far! I think some poo will come out starting on a grid with that lot.

Wow thats a huge grid of M3 Piers, Kuhmo seems to be growing again last two years. We have a set of slicks came with the car, be shame not to use them.

3wheels3
17-01-2017, 04:56 AM
...as they draft each other on both straights each lap...

Cole Trickle :hahaha: Soz like but couldn't help it!

Will definitely be along to watch one or two always, a good day :thumbs:

AlexGTT
17-01-2017, 01:21 PM
MSA pack arrived, medical booked. No going back now.

Bloomin' MSA packs got posh these days!

DazBlackCSL
17-01-2017, 06:48 PM
MSA pack arrived, medical booked. No going back now.

Bloomin' MSA packs got posh these days!

Slippery fun slope ... superb Al ;)

jupe777
17-01-2017, 07:57 PM
Thanks Barry, it's certainly quite lively. 700kg with 250bhp and 365 lb/ft. Traction is the main issue. Not much grip but handling is sweet.

Going back to supercharged spec after this season. That will add 20kg or so but then will be 365bhp+ and well over 400 torques! It was supercharged from new in 1948 until 1955.

Will be looking forward to seeing you and Shim in action. Keep you informed for tickets. ;)

For my season I'll let you have season dates Shim. Can only remember Chateau Impney is 8/9th July and think Shelsley Walsh Classic Nostalgia event is 22/23rd July. Other VSCC events but will post dates later.

I thought the car sounded fun but at that weight, 365+ and those tyres it actually sounds scary!

shimmy
17-01-2017, 09:25 PM
I thought the car sounded but at that weight, 365+ and those tyres it actually sounds scary!

Thats why i want to go watch :whistle:

AlexGTT
18-01-2017, 11:05 AM
I thought the car sounded fun but at that weight, 365+ and those tyres it actually sounds scary!

It gets your attention that's for sure!

Thats why i want to go watch :whistle:

You're so morbid these days. ;)

Slippery fun slope ... superb Al ;)

You know it Dazza. Time we met for drinkies?:beer::smt055

AlexGTT
18-01-2017, 11:33 AM
Couple of nice period pictures here from 1955, Shelsley Walsh. Builder of the car Bill Goodwin driving. Pushing on!

shimmy
18-01-2017, 04:14 PM
That looks like a young mans game!

Yanto
18-01-2017, 09:03 PM
Very cool Alex.....I'll tag along to one of those :beer:

Trawler
18-01-2017, 09:29 PM
That looks like a young mans game!

https://flic.kr/p/J3hePL

Your so right :hahaha:

Not competitive, but fun none the less

AlexGTT
19-01-2017, 12:30 PM
That looks like a young mans game!

Thanks Shim, now you're flattering me. ;)

CSLut
19-01-2017, 06:17 PM
Arrgghh its all the CSL and this forums fault!
Ill be aiming to do 4th season with Ginetta G40s this year (although i am very tempted by the M3-Cup). But the CSL i had is the whole reason i ended up racing! As with many, I got so into trackdays with it that before i knew what i was doing I started looking at the Motorsport section on Pistonheads and responded to an advert for a Ginetta G40-GT5 "challenge" car by saying "sorry, no money, but do have a CSL if interested". Of course, he was...so ended up swapping a rapidly appreciating asset for the financial equivalent of a black hole :bigcry: , but it had to be done.
3 seasons (and one championship title, somehow) later, ive had to sell all my assets and cars, but i dont regret one bit. Although I have learned that you really need to set out budget beforehand and stick to it.
I do miss the CSL for its, er...specialness, that glow of appreciation i got ever time i drove or even looked at it. And the fucker would have probably gone up 30k since :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:...but ive found an M3-CS + race car is a damn fine way of consoling myself.

Ginetta are great for the parity between cars, the tracks (GP layouts) and the glamour/atmosphere of the paddocks. Supporting BTCC and BGT with budgets 10k-25k for the season all-in (plus car) really is great value and would be an enjoyable weekend even if not racing , but being "part of the action" -even if only in a small way- is just brilliant. Its also good for corporate guests (or just a "rent-a-mob" of beer swilling mates) to come along to.

HOWEVER...the cars are VERY fickle handling and not big power (until you get to the G55 cars, which are GT4 class), which is great for learning, but ive always wanted to have a go racing an M3. As such, did a test in M3-cup car at Donny, which was great fun (especially mid December on greasy track). I can see the downsides to them and can certainly appreciate the upsides of Shimmys 1100kg/390bhp (that WILL be fun). But IF they can keep some level of parity between the cars, keep the costs down and fill the grid, then i think it could be quite a cool, competitive series.
Might do an "arrive and drive" at first round on April1st to check it out.If i can find anything else to sell to fund it...like a kidney.

https://www.facebook.com/Rpkracing/

jupe777
19-01-2017, 09:15 PM
Arrgghh its all the CSL and this forums fault!
Ill be aiming to do 4th season with Ginetta G40s this year (although i am very tempted by the M3-Cup). But the CSL i had is the whole reason i ended up racing! As with many, I got so into trackdays with it that before i knew what i was doing I started looking at the Motorsport section on Pistonheads and responded to an advert for a Ginetta G40-GT5 "challenge" car by saying "sorry, no money, but do have a CSL if interested". Of course, he was...so ended up swapping a rapidly appreciating asset for the financial equivalent of a black hole :bigcry: , but it had to be done.
3 seasons (and one championship title, somehow) later, ive had to sell all my assets and cars, but i dont regret one bit. Although I have learned that you really need to set out budget beforehand and stick to it.
I do miss the CSL for its, er...specialness, that glow of appreciation i got ever time i drove or even looked at it. And the fucker would have probably gone up 30k since :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:...but ive found an M3-CS + race car is a damn fine way of consoling myself.

Ginetta are great for the parity between cars, the tracks (GP layouts) and the glamour/atmosphere of the paddocks. Supporting BTCC and BGT with budgets 10k-25k for the season all-in (plus car) really is great value and would be an enjoyable weekend even if not racing , but being "part of the action" -even if only in a small way- is just brilliant. Its also good for corporate guests (or just a "rent-a-mob" of beer swilling mates) to come along to.

HOWEVER...the cars are VERY fickle handling and not big power (until you get to the G55 cars, which are GT4 class), which is great for learning, but ive always wanted to have a go racing an M3. As such, did a test in M3-cup car at Donny, which was great fun (especially mid December on greasy track). I can see the downsides to them and can certainly appreciate the upsides of Shimmys 1100kg/390bhp (that WILL be fun). But IF they can keep some level of parity between the cars, keep the costs down and fill the grid, then i think it could be quite a cool, competitive series.
Might do an "arrive and drive" at first round on April1st to check it out.If i can find anything else to sell to fund it...like a kidney.

https://www.facebook.com/Rpkracing/

Great post Mr C SLut, like you the CSL was the start of my racing (read ruinous path), after owning such a car I just had to learn how to do it justice.

shimmy
24-01-2017, 12:51 AM
Arrgghh its all the CSL and this forums fault!
Ill be aiming to do 4th season with Ginetta G40s this year (although i am very tempted by the M3-Cup). But the CSL i had is the whole reason i ended up racing! As with many, I got so into trackdays with it that before i knew what i was doing I started looking at the Motorsport section on Pistonheads and responded to an advert for a Ginetta G40-GT5 "challenge" car by saying "sorry, no money, but do have a CSL if interested". Of course, he was...so ended up swapping a rapidly appreciating asset for the financial equivalent of a black hole :bigcry: , but it had to be done.
3 seasons (and one championship title, somehow) later, ive had to sell all my assets and cars, but i dont regret one bit. Although I have learned that you really need to set out budget beforehand and stick to it.
I do miss the CSL for its, er...specialness, that glow of appreciation i got ever time i drove or even looked at it. And the fucker would have probably gone up 30k since :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:...but ive found an M3-CS + race car is a damn fine way of consoling myself.

Ginetta are great for the parity between cars, the tracks (GP layouts) and the glamour/atmosphere of the paddocks. Supporting BTCC and BGT with budgets 10k-25k for the season all-in (plus car) really is great value and would be an enjoyable weekend even if not racing , but being "part of the action" -even if only in a small way- is just brilliant. Its also good for corporate guests (or just a "rent-a-mob" of beer swilling mates) to come along to.

HOWEVER...the cars are VERY fickle handling and not big power (until you get to the G55 cars, which are GT4 class), which is great for learning, but ive always wanted to have a go racing an M3. As such, did a test in M3-cup car at Donny, which was great fun (especially mid December on greasy track). I can see the downsides to them and can certainly appreciate the upsides of Shimmys 1100kg/390bhp (that WILL be fun). But IF they can keep some level of parity between the cars, keep the costs down and fill the grid, then i think it could be quite a cool, competitive series.
Might do an "arrive and drive" at first round on April1st to check it out.If i can find anything else to sell to fund it...like a kidney.

https://www.facebook.com/Rpkracing/

Nice post CSLut, can feel the winter racing blues through the screen :thumbs:

pinkpanther008
24-01-2017, 01:54 AM
Great stuff Shim and O'Neil, most envious!

Best of luck with the season ahead:supz:

GregorJP
06-02-2017, 06:15 AM
Haven't posted on here for a while, mainly because it's painful to be reminded that I sold my CSL when the values were almost half what they are now. I miss it so badly, but cannot bring myself to buy another one.

Anyway, to update on the racing front, I am now heading into my third season of Production BMW (E30). I've sadly had to sell Kylie, my old car, and have now upgraded to Gigi. Main reason for the change was that I was never 100% happy with the cage in Kylie and I saw a couple of shunts at the end of last season that made me think twice. The engine in Gigi is also pukka. Just got to get my livery sorted for the year and we're game on. I've really enjoyed racing in the series. The cars are all very well matched, it's hard to spend your way into a winning position and the grids are always very well populated (over 25 cars). Drivers are friendly and it's a not-for-profit series.

Will post pics of the car when it's done.

Shimmy, CAE shifter is indeed a great move. I put one in my E92 and it is the second best mod I made (after the Nitrons). One thing, though - apparently the grease on the shifter can get hot and the thing gets super-stiff. Mine is currently at Litchfield getting lubed, so to speak.

Nice to see such varied racing on here.

thegingerninja
13-02-2017, 08:54 PM
Racing in Production Gti this year again. Sorry the photo is a bit rubbish - only one I could find. I only managed one race last year due to some back surgery, so need to make up for it this year. Mind you - I've been doing it for 22 years now - talk about slippery slope!

DuncanR
14-02-2017, 11:41 AM
sHOCK HORROR ! dUNCANr IS ALIVE FFS ! FOOK CAPS !! only on this feckin forum does this happen.

I will look at various Endurance race options across several Organisations, Britcar, 750Enduro, CSCC even ! although to quote Shimmys original post I think
" New Millennium are 30 min qualifying, 40 minute races, with a driver change between 10 and 25 mins " must be his big ass that makes it that slow !
I still have my E36 which is for sale at this moment.


And I have now bought the Mini that I have shared with my mate since 2012~13 when we won our class in Britcar and were 2nd overall.
Recent success was our Class win at the Race of Remembrance at Anglesey in November last year. A really unique trophy one of seven, a genuine WW1 shell fired 100 years ago. If you can get a booking its a great race to be involved in, runs from Thursday through until Sunday afternoon.
Good luck to all, and Alex.... set the seat in that death trap as LOW as possible, and dont wear a full face helmet so you can tuck your several chins in a bit tighter IF you go sky dirt !

jupe777
14-02-2017, 03:17 PM
sHOCK HORROR ! dUNCANr IS ALIVE FFS ! FOOK CAPS !! only on this feckin forum does this happen.

I will look at various Endurance race options across several Organisations, Britcar, 750Enduro, CSCC even ! although to quote Shimmys original post I think
" New Millennium are 30 min qualifying, 40 minute races, with a driver change between 10 and 25 mins " must be his big ass that makes it that slow !
I still have my E36 which is for sale at this moment.


And I have now bought the Mini that I have shared with my mate since 2012~13 when we won our class in Britcar and were 2nd overall.
Recent success was our Class win at the Race of Remembrance at Anglesey in November last year. A really unique trophy one of seven, a genuine WW1 shell fired 100 years ago. If you can get a booking its a great race to be involved in, runs from Thursday through until Sunday afternoon.
Good luck to all, and Alex.... set the seat in that death trap as LOW as possible, and dont wear a full face helmet so you can tuck your several chins in a bit tighter IF you go sky dirt !

Hi Duncan congrats on the class win, were you in the Mini at RofR? I was there in the Caterham, actually qualified P2 which was a surprise. We finished 3rd overall but was pipped by a handful of seconds to finish 2nd in class. Fantastic weekend and look forward to the next one. Don't know if it was your mini or not but I had a little coming together with one at Rocket when I tried to dive down the inside, my fault :-( Still got a dodgy wrist where my wheel was jolted.

DuncanR
14-02-2017, 03:57 PM
That was indeed me in the Mini at Rocket, I do indeed recall the incident, and the Invoice is in the post ! :hahaha:
I guess like a lot of people, you underestimated the stopping power of the Mini, as I kept it buried and braked late, I thought at the time "this is going to be fun !"
A great week-end indeed, and a fantastic track, my first time there on the Friday quali so a steep learning curve, but got the hang of it in the end !
Shame you got pipped at post, some nice trophies.
Bump into you next year then probably !:hahaha:

jupe777
14-02-2017, 04:26 PM
That was indeed me in the Mini at Rocket, I do indeed recall the incident, and the Invoice is in the post ! :hahaha:
I guess like a lot of people, you underestimated the stopping power of the Mini, as I kept it buried and braked late, I thought at the time "this is going to be fun !"
A great week-end indeed, and a fantastic track, my first time there on the Friday quali so a steep learning curve, but got the hang of it in the end !
Shame you got pipped at post, some nice trophies.
Bump into you next year then probably !:hahaha:

They really were great trophies, don't think I underestimated the braking power more the willingness to let a pesky Caterham get past haha, certainly knew where I stood after that :-) It can be a little unnerving in the 7's as you can never be sure if someone has seen you, the BMW Compacts were a nightmare, pretty sure they don't race with mirrors :-0 You can give me the invoice next time we bump into each other :hahaha: I'd never been to Anglesey either, what a great circuit, November doesn't seem so glum anymore.

Graham
15-02-2017, 04:26 AM
Took a bit of a different direction and decided to sell my red M3, and I am going to build an M3 Cup Car from scratch. I don't really want to split my red one as I feel it's a bit of a waste rather somebody gets the use out of it with all the decent parts on it. To change it to M3 Cup spec requires alot of work due to modifications I have fitted.

I want to build the shell to a good racing standard and then if I ever go off M3 Cup then I just unbolt the controlled modifications and put some decent stuff on it but at least the shell itself can be used in whatever application. I think it will be too light for M3 Cup so I might (I hope) I have to put ballast in then I can remove it if I want to race in other series.

Work/deciding to build a car too late/rollcage delays due to being start of race season means I'm going to miss at least 2 of the races, I'm hoping to make the June round as it's Brands Indy so a circuit I raced alot last year which might be handy for my first round. But at the moment I can't get a cage delivered until 2nd April due to them being so busy supplying at this time of year. :banghead:

So the build has ground to a halt at the moment

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/GrahamVFR/BMW%20M3%20Black/Building/3B03925E-5591-4597-8349-75A8AD634DFE.jpg

The M3 Cup ticked the boxes for me as racing last year in a series where the classes were poorly controlled (IMO) meant being classed with a 400bhp+ Clio Cup Car with uprated sequential box etc, I could drive the wheels off my car but he would just get to any straight and pull away effortlessly. So I wanted to race an M3, I wanted close/even racing and I don't have the mega budget for Kumho racing, so M3 Cup ticks the boxes. I hope it's as good as it looks and I think close racing will bring my driving on alot more as if somebody is pedalling their car alot better than me when we are in theory in more or less the same car, then I know I have to get some serious tuition in.

billyboysm3
15-02-2017, 02:15 PM
Good luck everyone :)

CSLut
15-02-2017, 03:42 PM
Will be testing an m3 cup car on a normal MSV track day at Oulton next Tuesday 21st Feb. If anyone with race license fancies a go, im not sure, but I t might possibly possible to arrange. Would help me share the cost of the shakedown and think team will be interested as they organise then series and want to get more people in.

Mike R
04-04-2017, 01:21 PM
Hi Shimmy,
Just watched your partner's race at Snetterton and noticed the mis-shifting issues with the CAE. I have commented on the cure on your You-tube vid.

This is what we had to do on my car (which was even worse as it only hand the Vibratechnic fast road engine / gearbox mounts):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount05.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount05.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount04.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount04.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount03.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount03.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount02.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount02.jpg.html)

I also had a one piece shaft made, as I was worried that in hard use the adjustable CAE one would cause an issue:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermountone-pieceshaft01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermountone-pieceshaft01.jpg.html)

If you can do something similar on the Getrag box, you will eliminate the mis-shifting issues :).

ac427
05-04-2017, 12:48 AM
Whereabouts are JC the engine builders ?

shimmy
05-04-2017, 01:16 AM
Hi Shimmy,
Just watched your partner's race at Snetterton and noticed the mis-shifting issues with the CAE. I have commented on the cure on your You-tube vid.

This is what we had to do on my car (which was even worse as it only hand the Vibratechnic fast road engine / gearbox mounts):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount05.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount05.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount04.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount04.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount03.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount03.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount02.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermount02.jpg.html)

I also had a one piece shaft made, as I was worried that in hard use the adjustable CAE one would cause an issue:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermountone-pieceshaft01.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/Escort%20Photos/MKShiftermountone-pieceshaft01.jpg.html)

If you can do something similar on the Getrag box, you will eliminate the mis-shifting issues :).

Cheers mike, i had one similar in qulifying but we had nothing in two test days, ill send to mechanic.

shimmy
05-04-2017, 01:17 AM
Whereabouts are JC the engine builders ?

Thirsk, yorks

http://www.jcracing.info/?page=contact

jupe777
19-04-2017, 09:44 PM
So our Caterham season finally got under way with the first round at Snetterton and my first foray into the 310R Championship (I jumped 2yrs worth of stages from the Academy last year). First race went pretty well as I shocked myself by winning, after a pretty dramatic last corner collision. 2nd race not so good with 5th but over the moon. Sorry nothing Bavarian but pretty entertaining racing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=55j-w2CV4z4