Toyo R888's

[SMD]

Right looking to use these on the road and a few track days.

Has any had these on there CSL yet?

Road noise is a big one as they seem to very bad on the evo i had?

Price? I know Mark said he can get good deal on them?

i am wanting to move away from the PS2's and these should be aloot cheaper than Cups?

cheeers

[Nords]

Not driven them on a 'heavy' car like a CSL (yes, I know but mine has the options, so heavy!!!) but many friends use them on their 993, 996 & 997 Porsches. There was an internet 'rumour' that R888 had a sidewall that was too soft for a 1300Kg+ car on track, their use on similar weighted Porsches suggests they will be fine.

Has to be worth a go, comments on them suggest they are not quite as sticky as CSL cups, on par with the newer e92 Cup+ and better than both in the wet (although everything is relative!)

[_Nathan_]

Yes I have used them. On track the rears overheat very quickly and go off, great as a road tyre as they don't need warming up anything like the cups.

[Nords]

That seems a shame. Perhaps try these Dunlops thingys as per my Donny thread:

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1370

I did a couple of 15-20 laps sessions around there and the rears didn't overheat. They wore quite evenly too. Camskill have some although I'm not sure if they do CSL rims sizes. I was using std M3 rears alround, 265/30ZR18 (Camskill have them on offer at £155 a corner in those sizes at the moment)...


Running Dunlop 'thingys' on 265 back and front (std M3 rear alloys) as I drove the car away on CSL alloys with road tyres on and these in the back seats/boot. My other set of CSL alloys with cups on had 3 good tyres and one front down to the canvas, chose the Dunlops over the Cups for today so have to pick up the other stuff this coming week.

These tyres were back left at the bottom, front left, front right, back right.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/GSXRthou/CSL/Dunlops_four.jpg

[SMD]

Are they Dunlop DZ03G's?

[SMD]

Just had a look on the web site and they dont list those Dunlops in 19's!

[bryce]

Just had a look on the web site and they dont list those Dunlops in 19's!

Nords is using them on 18" rears.

[jim76]

I have used the R888's on my standard M3. I did 2 days at Spa last year, and 2 track days at Knockhill and there's probably another couple left in them!! I didn't feel they went off at Spa at all and it was roasting when I was there!! I have 235's and 275's and I thought they were excellent. I had KW Clubsport suspension on right enough, I guess this could have helped, but the handling/grip was excellent. It rained for about an hour one afternoon, and I thought I would take it easy, but I gradually got quicker on them and found them to be good in the wet as well. I have a spare set of 18" M3 wheels with these on them, but I believe they now come in 19" sizes. I paid £580 in total for 4, can't remember the prices off the top of my head front to rear at the moment, but don't know how much the 19's are!? Road noise is pretty bad at low speeds, but I suppose there has to be some compromise??

[_Nathan_]

Maybe different driving styles but there was very little traction compared to cups, was on Intrax suspension and at the 'ring so no where near as hard on tyres as Spa. Was a trackday and they would start getting really squirmy about half way to 2/3 of the way through a lap.

What lap times were you doing at Spa?

[jim76]

I never actually timed one!!! It was my first time driving there. I've been a passenger many times, but thought I'd just enjoy my first event rather than going for it. Although I ended up flying!! I'm going back this June (15th and 16th), although I might not have the M3 this time, but I'll defo be timing a couple this year!!! Lol. It was pouring when I went to the ring straight after Spa, so never really had a good go on there.

[SMD]

The best price i can get for the Toyo R888's is £932 from camskill which is very expensive!:banghead:

[_Nathan_]

They are only cheaper if you use 18" rims - that was what led me to give them a go, at the time dunlops were expensive but now they are on offer I'd go for them in 18" and cups in 19". I know of 2 properly quick drivers who rate the Dunlops

[adliz]

ive been using the 888 for my visits to sepang f1 international circuit, Malaysia. No issue on heating up, i guess the track temp and ambient temp here is fairly high most of the time. grip is great, though not super.

have been using the current set for 5 trackdays, with an average of 20 hot laps per trackday, and still got 20-25% thread. however, they are already losing grip under hard braking from 220km/h at 150meter point, and understeers at high speed sweepers!! previously i can brake at 125m point with no problem.

wet performance is bad, since we have torrential rain here. really scary, and i can only drive 70-80km/h max in wet.

i guess i need to change to a different set even with the 'balance' thread. thread rating of 100 is something to consider. for similar price, i'm trying out federal 595rs-r tyres next.

[Bealo]

This is defo some to think about, i was just going to buy a set of Cups and live with them as Shimmy and Woppum does but i might now by a set of rear 18's and go for the dunlops and keep my Falken 452's for the wet.