Quick tyre question

[pops]

After a bit of advice please.

Looking for a set of cups, was going for cup2 as said elsewhere but have been advised off them.

Found some cups on the internet however, it says DOT2011. Does that mean the manufacture date is 2011?

If so, are they too old?

Ta

[Chappers]

2011 is getting past it a bit but entirely dependent on how they've been stored. At work we wouldn't test on something that old, but when I bought my car it came with some 11 year old cups which although perished still felt very positive and grippy laterally despite being a little slippery on acceleration.

They'll probably be fine, probably 95%+ as good as a new set. If they're even slightly marked or worse perished, send them straight back. They've probably been in a dark warehouse for 5 years and it's UV that kills them more than anything else.

[pops]

Thanks for that mate.

What made me suspicious is that they are reduced by 50%.

Think I'll give them a miss.

[select]

Yes, it usually says CW/YYYY as in, calender week and year of production.
So if yours says xx/2011, then its manufactured in 2011.

I wouldn't say that they are too old, it depends on how they have been stored. I would ask for a discount and go from there.

Edit: Oops too late :whistle:

[pops]

Yes, it usually says CW/YYYY as in, calender week and year of production.
So if yours says xx/2011, then its manufactured in 2011.

I wouldn't say that they are too old, it depends on how they have been stored. I would ask for a discount and go from there.

Edit: Oops too late :whistle:

They're not mine as yet so haven't had sight of them.

They're on the TyreLeader site so, I can't see storage being unsuitable but, can't be 100% certain on it.

Knowing myself, if I had the tiniest doubt on them I wouldn't stick them on the car, and that doubt is currently there!

[Chappers]

I would say they'd be fine, particularly for a track spanking. I did email them last year asking how these older ones had been stored and they couldn't tell me.

A friend of a friend of a Michelin engineer says the best Cup 2 setup is Porsche Spec front tyres and generic spec rears for the CSL, I'm not sure if that's the setup the guys used on here?

[pops]

They'd spend 99% of the time on the road with the odd track day chucked in.

Can't say I'd have 100% confidence in them so, in my mind, that says leave them. Bit of a ballache but so be it.

The main reason for wanting them is that they were the original kit but with the car being 13 yrs old it's a given that tyre technonolgy moves on.

Could be worse, I could have missed out on the car with the way prices have been going! The price of them is heading beyond what I could reasonably afford.

Not all bad then :thumbs:

[Mike R]

Has Gareth not contacted you? He has been trying the number you gave me, but just goes to answer service?

He said he was going to message you on Friday if he couldn't get through?

[pops]

Has Gareth not contacted you? He has been trying the number you gave me, but just goes to answer service?

He said he was going to message you on Friday if he couldn't get through?

Hi Mike, not heard a word.

Phone works ok, will resend No via pm.

[cslsuperfan]

Brian

had a couple of sets from tyreleader @ DOT 2011/12

been absolutely fine

A cup that is at 90% of its optimum performance is 40% more than I need

Cups can be brutally treated on track.

Speaking only for myself I am a long way from extracting 100% from cups.

[pops]

Thanks Ben,

I'm also absolutely nowhere near having the ability of taking either the car or old tyres anywhere near their limit, not whilst being in control of things and having my eyes open anyhow :hahaha:

Have spoken to Mikes mate and, subject to him checking the dates on them, done a deal with him and will be collecting a set off him a week on Sat.

Booked in a week on Thurs for the SuperSprint exhaust so with that and the Cups it'll be like a different car.

Remind me, who was it who said "The car is definitely NOT having any modifications / changes done to it"?

[mattCSLnut]

Thanks Ben,

I'm also absolutely nowhere near having the ability of taking either the car or old tyres anywhere near their limit, not whilst being in control of things and having my eyes open anyhow :hahaha:

Have spoken to Mikes mate and, subject to him checking the dates on them, done a deal with him and will be collecting a set off him a week on Sat.

Booked in a week on Thurs for the SuperSprint exhaust so with that and the Cups it'll be like a different car.

Remind me, who was it who said "The car is definitely NOT having any modifications / changes done to it"?

They are not modification Brian :whistle: just tasteful enhancements ;) :hahaha:
I guarantee you will :smt055 your Cecil all over again.

FYI... DOT 2011 on tyres means 20th week of 2011

[cslsuperfan]

Thanks Ben,

I'm also absolutely nowhere near having the ability of taking either the car or old tyres anywhere near their limit, not whilst being in control of things and having my eyes open anyhow :hahaha:

Have spoken to Mikes mate and, subject to him checking the dates on them, done a deal with him and will be collecting a set off him a week on Sat.

Booked in a week on Thurs for the SuperSprint exhaust so with that and the Cups it'll be like a different car.

Remind me, who was it who said "The car is definitely NOT having any modifications / changes done to it"?


Brian

AP's/ Supersprint/ Cups....... it's just the beginning

start worrying when you're buying carbon mirrors ;) after having fitted the harnesses and the fire extinguisher.

[pops]

Brian

AP's/ Supersprint/ Cups....... it's just the beginning

start worrying when you're buying carbon mirrors ;) after having fitted the harnesses and the fire extinguisher.


:thumbs:

[pops]

Just got a message that the cups I have a chance of are 2012.


And.....having them :thumbs:

[Mike R]

Thanks Ben,

I'm also absolutely nowhere near having the ability of taking either the car or old tyres anywhere near their limit, not whilst being in control of things and having my eyes open anyhow :hahaha:

Have spoken to Mikes mate and, subject to him checking the dates on them, done a deal with him and will be collecting a set off him a week on Sat.

Booked in a week on Thurs for the SuperSprint exhaust so with that and the Cups it'll be like a different car.

Remind me, who was it who said "The car is definitely NOT having any modifications / changes done to it"?

Brian,
Be careful in the cold, they are REALLY dicey in sub 10°C conditions, but grip like f*$k once up to temp. If you have never experienced Cups, you will be blown away (especially the grip levels the car can generate on track). Assuming you are at Bartlets, I'd get the geometry checked and set up for fast road use (Gareth will know the settings to dial the car in to) - just in case the geo is a bit wayward - would be crazy to spoil the car just because of a poor set-up.

And then be prepared to be amazed at the balance of the car on track, it really is sublime :).

[pops]

Thanks for that Mike, and also for sorting the tyres.

[Chappers]

Can anyone PM me with details on these tyres? Are they available elsewhere for less than advertised on Tyreleader? I'd quite like to try a set this year.

[pops]

When I had a quick search, TyreLeader were the cheapest. It was just the age of them that put me off.

I wanted a set to try and they'll possibly be the last set as by the time they'll be due for renewal they are likely to be as rare as rocking horse crap, or too old!

[Pooky]

DOT code is the tyre specification.

The date code is a four digit code (2 for week number, 2 for year) that will be in a stamped (into the mould) type font. Normally in it's own rectangle/oval box on the side wall.

http://www.tyrepal.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Tyre_Date_Code.jpg

[cslsuperfan]

Can anyone PM me with details on these tyres? Are they available elsewhere for less than advertised on Tyreleader? I'd quite like to try a set this year.


Chappers

Lovertyres.com used to be competitively priced but I haven't had a set for a year or 2.

[pops]

Could someone advise recommended pressures for Cups for road use please?

Ta

[Yanto]

Could someone advise recommended pressures for Cups for road use please?

Ta

I think I run 33/34 psi all round for road from memory.

[GregorFuk]

I'd love to try cups but living in Scotland they just seem like an bad idea.

[cslsuperfan]

Could someone advise recommended pressures for Cups for road use please?

Ta


Brian

I run 36 rears 34 fronts for road

[Chappers]

I might give Cup 2s a go in the specs suggested, it seems odd that they're on everything sporty now yet completely panned on here. Someone must be doing something wrong.

[Pooky]

I might give Cup 2s a go in the specs suggested, it seems odd that they're on everything sporty now yet completely panned on here. Someone must be doing something wrong.

I've talked to the Cup 2 tyre engineer at Michelin so ping me a note at work and I'll tell you what to get.

[Chappers]

Righto will do. For scientific purposes I should compare them to Cup 1, so if anyone wants to meet me at a track with a set of freshly bedded tyres on rims, that'd be great. Thanks

[Pooky]

Righto will do. For scientific purposes I should compare them to Cup 1, so if anyone wants to meet me at a track with a set of freshly bedded tyres on rims, that'd be great. Thanks

Will ask him what to fit to the Cayman R I've just bought as well....

[Mark1]

I'm looking to buy a set of full fat cups with recent production dates. Where's the best place to source, and would there be any point looking at a group buy?

[cslsuperfan]

I'm looking to buy a set of full fat cups with recent production dates. Where's the best place to source, and would there be any point looking at a group buy?


tyreleader is selling Cups for £800 approx

[pops]

I looked on there last week, 50% off but dated 2011.

[pops]

I'm looking to buy a set of full fat cups with recent production dates. Where's the best place to source, and would there be any point looking at a group buy?

I think production stopped in 2012 so no "recent" production dates.

This might not be 100% accurate, it's just what my usual tyre place told me when I asked if they could get any.

[pops]

Collecting these a week tomorrow. Will be on in April.....yay!! :thumbs:

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