what is the cheapest I can get one for?

[SSS]

Hello,

A hypothetical question. What is the cheapest I can get a CSL (not a CatC/D) for?

Answers on a post card please

[shimmy]

£30k

[SSS]

£30k


any links, clues in the future would be useful

Thank you

[billyboysm3]

£40k

[shimmy]

any links, clues in the future would be useful

Thank you

no just a guess


but what i do know is that tomorrow it will be £31k

[Marv968]

Think a £30k car would be a very rough, battered and unloved CSL.

[shimmy]

Think a £30k car would be a very rough, battered and unloved CSL.

:bigcry:

[SSS]

Think a £30k car would be a very rough, battered and unloved CSL.

Just the way I want it ;)

A daily driver for 10000 miles a year usage

Not a garage queen

[Gazza]

!

[mattCSLnut]

£30k
That was 2 years ago Shimmy ;)
The fact is, right now my Cecil is the least expensive one in the UK @ offers around £45K : http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13630&page=13
... next one up from mine is @ £49,995... but it's the slower colour :whistle: and with imperfect provenance. The rest are @ hi 50s to low 90s :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

Think a £30k car would be a very rough, battered and unloved CSL.
... and most likely a Cat 'C' or 'D' which is not what SSS wants ;)

[MisterCorn]

Within the last year there has been mine (70k miles, £30k) and there was a high mileage one which I think was something like 120k miles and 23k, I haven't seen any others below that price, mine wasn't exceptionally cheap, but prices have moved a lot in the last 12 months £40k is the new £30k.

MC

[mattCSLnut]

Despite the rising UK Cecil values we're still lagging behind the Euro LHD market...
According to Mobile.de the cheapest CSL on there at the moment is @ E95K: http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=214980591&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&climatisation=&usageType=PRE_REGISTRATION&adLimitation=&fuels=PETROL&zipcode=&scopeId=C&usage=USED&isSearchRequest=true&minFirstRegistrationDate=2002-01-01&maxFirstRegistrationDate=2005-12-31&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=45&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=CSL&pageNumber=1

The rest of the LHD CSLs are E100K + including this Option-less SG LHD @ E107,500 :http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=215413888&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&climatisation=&usageType=PRE_REGISTRATION&adLimitation=&fuels=PETROL&zipcode=&scopeId=C&usage=USED&isSearchRequest=true&minFirstRegistrationDate=2002-01-01&maxFirstRegistrationDate=2005-12-31&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=45&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=CSL&pageNumber=1#

Then there's this SB Museum piece @ E169,900 : http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=219816830&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&climatisation=&usageType=PRE_REGISTRATION&adLimitation=&fuels=PETROL&zipcode=&scopeId=C&usage=USED&isSearchRequest=true&minFirstRegistrationDate=2002-01-01&maxFirstRegistrationDate=2005-12-31&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=45&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=CSL&pageNumber=1

[cslsuperfan]

I don't think there are too many that are battered and rough.
You would need to find a high mileage car to get a lower price.
I've had mine for about six weeks,it needs some TLC with small areas of surface rust and paint scuffs to be done. Booked in for paint but that has been delayed for a few weeks.

Cheapest I've seen for sale around the time I got mine was £41K

SSS

what's your budget?

I'm reading between the lines and guessing £35K +/- £5K

Hate to rain on one's parade but that's so 2013.

Hot poop E46 M3's are tipping 15-20K these days

£45K will buy you Matt's if you speak to him nicely.

But be quick coz the sun's on it's way and no one wants to sell :smokin:

[Pooky]

Why do BHP still have their sold advert up on pistonheads from over 6 months ago, price is way out of date?

[MarcM]

Why do BHP still have their sold advert up on pistonheads from over 6 months ago, price is way out of date?

Yeah, completely misleading for prospective CSL buyers. Maybe better to have a similar cars wanted advert if trying to raise their profile!?

[Gazza]

!

[cslsuperfan]

I can see three on PH

1 @ £66995
1 @ £69995
1 @ POA


The POA will be ML per chance?

90+K sterling for certain.

[MisterCorn]

I think it is much more useful to post prices with mileage if you want any sensible comparison. All of the cars for sale at the moment are particularly low mileage examples.

MC

[shimmy]

I think it is much more useful to post prices with mileage if you want any sensible comparison. All of the cars for sale at the moment are particularly low mileage examples.

MC



nahhh :blalalala:

[MisterCorn]

Sorry, I forgot, we don't want a sensible comparison of where prices are, just to show that the only ones for sale are very expensive so we can all keep talking prices up.

Here are the current cars on AT.

£87k 16k miles
£70k 19k miles
£68k 17.5k miles
£67k 34.5k miles


I am sure when some of the more 'normal' mileage cars are back on the market we will see the prices back at £40k.

MC

[shimmy]

Sorry, I forgot, we don't want a sensible comparison of where prices are, just to show that the only ones for sale are very expensive so we can all keep talking prices up.

Here are the current cars on AT.

£87k 16k miles
£70k 19k miles
£68k 17.5k miles
£67k 34.5k miles


I am sure when some of the more 'normal' mileage cars are back on the market we will see the prices back at £40k.

MC


:banghead:





;)

[Chappers]

The question was of course "what can you get one for?" and the answer to that is currently a very definitive £45k. Mine and some of the other 100,000 milers are obviously worth less if Matt's wont sell for that at the moment, but mine isn't for sale. Whether or not they're "worth" this money, you'd have to put way more on the table to convince someone not selling to part with their beloved car. Circumstances change but with such few cars available, it's possible all the ones with the right mileages are with the right people -the high are with the users, the lows are with the collectors. I'm planning many a trip to fully use mine this year :)

I think the days of the £3x,xxx CSL have now gone, unless of course it is a Cat C/D. We shall see. Maybe there will be another global shitstorm and all of our cars with be bartered for bread rations by September...

[SSS]

SSS

what's your budget?

I'm reading between the lines and guessing £35K +/- £5K

Hate to rain on one's parade but that's so 2013.

Hot poop E46 M3's are tipping 15-20K these days

£45K will buy you Matt's if you speak to him nicely.

But be quick coz the sun's on it's way and no one wants to sell :smokin:

Budget is £40 K +/- £3K but I am actively looking for a high mileage car and quite like the Black. One I can drive around the M25 everyday.
Garage queens are not for me.

I think Matt's car is lovely but it is probably too hard for me. I want OEM suspension not Powerflex. Just a personal preference but every Powerflex car I have driven on the road is wonderfully direct but transmits all the road imperfections.
For me I think the standard CSL is good enough for the road.

[Mike R]

Budget is £40 K +/- £3K but I am actively looking for a high mileage car and quite like the Black. One I can drive around the M25 everyday.
Garage queens are not for me.

I think Matt's car is lovely but it is probably too hard for me. I want OEM suspension not Powerflex. Just a personal preference but every Powerflex car I have driven on the road is wonderfully direct but transmits all the road imperfections.
For me I think the standard CSL is good enough for the road.

You'd be mad to discount it for that reason, without trying it.

CSL suspension is actually quite harsh anyway, so I don't think you will notice the addition of the Powerflex bushes.

[MisterCorn]

I agree. At least give it a go. Like I tell my 6 year old, you can't say you don't like it if you haven't tried it.
For me the CSL is about being raw and good communication, probably a good thing.

MC

[SSS]

I agree. At least give it a go. Like I tell my 6 year old, you can't say you don't like it if you haven't tried it.
For me the CSL is about being raw and good communication, probably a good thing.

MC

True however I am a bit of an OEM weirdo and I have time to wait until April which is my deadline

[MisterCorn]

True however I am a bit of an OEM weirdo and I have time to wait until April which is my deadline

Buy it and put original bushes on it. You would hate my car, it has brakes which aren't made of chocolate. Good luck in your search.

MC

[mattCSLnut]

Budget is £40 K +/- £3K but I am actively looking for a high mileage car and quite like the Black. One I can drive around the M25 everyday.
Garage queens are not for me.

I think Matt's car is lovely but it is probably too hard for me. I want OEM suspension not Powerflex. Just a personal preference but every Powerflex car I have driven on the road is wonderfully direct but transmits all the road imperfections.
For me I think the standard CSL is good enough for the road.



With all due respect SSS... how would you know Powerflex RTAB & antiroll bar bushes have made my CSL harsher than OEM set up ?
The fact is ( this is based on my actual, personal experience of both OE & Powerflex RTAB back to back) there is no difference in road feel or manners... my only reason for fitting Powerflex RTAB bushes... the "Black serious" ones, which are superior quality to the bubble gum purple crap Powerflex sell to boy racers, was longevity & consistent reliability :thumbs: as the OEM ones are of poor design and deteriorate very quickly through corrosion as they are made of cheep rubber & aluminium which oxidises, expands and spits the rubber inner out about every 3 years or 30K miles. My CSL has had 3 set of OEM RTAB (changed under warranty) and I just got fed up having to put another inferior OEM RTAB.
Further more, if you think stock CSL is smooth and comfortable on the commute you Sir are very much mistaken ;) and might want to consider the softer option, a stock E46 M3 with heated leather and softer suspension :thumbs:
As for my Cecil... I personally think the real problem for you is it's way too clean for your planed usage... as you've already indicated you like them dirty & hanging :gayfight: and mine is the solar opposite of what you're after :smt055
BTW isn't time you've introduced yourself ? :whistle: We won't bite ;)

[Chappers]

Greatest sales pitch ever.

[mattCSLnut]

Greatest sales pitch ever.
I'm good like that :thumbs: Thank You ;) :hahaha:

[SSS]

Sorry if I offended you with my powerflex opinion. I have used their products before and found them a bit too much for me. But I am in my 40s

Introduce myself... Do you want a selfie?


With all due respect SSS... how would you know Powerflex RTAB & antiroll bar bushes have made my CSL harsher than OEM set up ?
The fact is ( this is based on my actual, personal experience of both OE & Powerflex RTAB back to back) there is no difference in road feel or manners... my only reason for fitting Powerflex RTAB bushes... the "Black serious" ones, which are superior quality to the bubble gum purple crap Powerflex sell to boy racers, was longevity & consistent reliability :thumbs: as the OEM ones are of poor design and deteriorate very quickly through corrosion as they are made of cheep rubber & aluminium which oxidises, expands and spits the rubber inner out about every 3 years or 30K miles. My CSL has had 3 set of OEM RTAB (changed under warranty) and I just got fed up having to put another inferior OEM RTAB.
Further more, if you think stock CSL is smooth and comfortable on the commute you Sir are very much mistaken ;) and might want to consider the softer option, a stock E46 M3 with heated leather and softer suspension :thumbs:
As for my Cecil... I personally think the real problem for you is it's way too clean for your planed usage... as you've already indicated you like them dirty & hanging :gayfight: and mine is the solar opposite of what you're after :smt055
BTW isn't time you've introduced yourself ? :whistle: We won't bite ;)

[shimmy]

Sorry if I offended you with my powerflex opinion. I have used their products before and found them a bit too much for me. But I am in my 40s

Introduce myself... Do you want a selfie?


I think the Powerflex on the CSL just give it a harsh ride, ruin the subframe quicker and give you nothing else.

As long as you have RTAB plates you have doen all you need to do unless you make it a racer with a cage

[cslsuperfan]

I think the Powerflex on the CSL just give it a harsh ride, ruin the subframe quicker and give you nothing else.

As long as you have RTAB plates you have doen all you need to do unless you make it a racer with a cage


Shim

only a complete idiot would a cage a csl given the stratospheric values :gayfight:

[Gazza]

!

[cslsuperfan]

RTAB plates ??? can someone explain please.


Rear trailing arm bush plates

placed either side of the oem RTAB to give the arm a little extra support.

[cslsuperfan]

Budget is £40 K +/- £3K but I am actively looking for a high mileage car and quite like the Black. One I can drive around the M25 everyday.
Garage queens are not for me.

I think Matt's car is lovely but it is probably too hard for me. I want OEM suspension not Powerflex. Just a personal preference but every Powerflex car I have driven on the road is wonderfully direct but transmits all the road imperfections.
For me I think the standard CSL is good enough for the road.


SSS

using your csl daily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy retro csl ownership.

welcome SSS,

there are a few of us left here you use and occasionally abuse our csl's.

It's what they were designed for :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

Sorry if I offended you with my powerflex opinion. I have used their products before and found them a bit too much for me. But I am in my 40s

Introduce myself... Do you want a selfie?

Oh good God no ;) :hahaha: a real first name will do :thumbs:

No offence taken re: powerflex ... I'm merely correcting your invalid opinion of my CSLs perceived harshness :beer:

[SSS]

SSS

using your csl daily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy retro csl ownership.

welcome SSS,

there are a few of us left here you use and occasionally abuse our csl's.

It's what they were designed for :smokin:

Yes, I once read somewhere "not putting miles on your car is like not have sex with your girlfriend so she will be more desirable to her next boyfriend"

I want to use it, enjoy it and (forgive me: put a normal drivers seat in it) and enjoy it.
Hence looking for a "used" one.

If I lose a few grand after I sell it then so be it. Life is short

[73CSL]

No need to change the drivers seat for daily imho. I find the csl seats better than the ones in my 520 msport.

[plumber vic]

Yes, I once read somewhere "not putting miles on your car is like not have sex with your girlfriend so she will be more desirable to her next boyfriend"

I want to use it, enjoy it and (forgive me: put a normal drivers seat in it) and enjoy it.
Hence looking for a "used" one.

If I lose a few grand after I sell it then so be it. Life is short

How refreshing
Didn't think any new owners had that
Way of thinking

[cslsuperfan]

Yes, I once read somewhere "not putting miles on your car is like not have sex with your girlfriend so she will be more desirable to her next boyfriend"

I want to use it, enjoy it and (forgive me: put a normal drivers seat in it) and enjoy it.
Hence looking for a "used" one.

If I lose a few grand after I sell it then so be it. Life is short


Life is

And on the assumption you'll maintain your csl in the manner it will be accustomed, you won't lose a penny.....better still values will be ever higher

[SSS]

Life is

And on the assumption you'll maintain your csl in the manner it will be accustomed, you won't lose a penny.....better still values will be ever higher

It is I have lost friend unexpectedly and for that reason feel that a car is just a car.
I dropped my GSX parking it. It was perfect before that. The following week I dropped it on the other side. I laughed.
I have done 10000 miles on it since. I look after it and it gets serviced properly and fitted with the best tyres.

If it sells for a few hundred pounds less when the time comes to get rid of it then so be it.

I went to the silverstone classics a few years ago and parked up and left to see other cars and enjoy the day. I found it intriguing that some owners just sat and guarded their cars all day.

[digi]

That was 2 years ago Shimmy ;)
The fact is, right now my Cecil is the least expensive one in the UK @ offers around £45K : http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13630&page=13
... next one up from mine is @ £49,995... but it's the slower colour :whistle: and with imperfect provenance. The rest are @ hi 50s to low 90s :smokin:

you need to up the price!!! :hahaha:

[digi]

Just buy a E46 M3 be done save some $$$ and hope the supercar market will implode giving you an opportunity. Hey I'm waiting for P1, La-Ferrari and 918 for half their asking, but right now its FANTASY!

[Mike R]

It is I have lost friend unexpectedly and for that reason feel that a car is just a car.
I dropped my GSX parking it. It was perfect before that. The following week I dropped it on the other side. I laughed.
I have done 10000 miles on it since. I look after it and it gets serviced properly and fitted with the best tyres.

If it sells for a few hundred pounds less when the time comes to get rid of it then so be it.

I went to the silverstone classics a few years ago and parked up and left to see other cars and enjoy the day. I found it intriguing that some owners just sat and guarded their cars all day.


If I was you, I would go and have a look at Matt's, just to see what you can get for £45k and to see how it drove. I think you will find it will meet your requirements perfectly ;). Seems crazy to write a car off from considering on a misconception ;).

[PeteGray]

BTW isn't time you've introduced yourself ? :whistle: We won't bite ;)

I think you just did bite?!

[mattCSLnut]

I think you just did bite?!

Just a friendly nibble ;)

[cslsuperfan]

If I was you, I would go and have a look at Matt's, just to see what you can get for £45k and to see how it drove. I think you will find it will meet your requirements perfectly ;). Seems crazy to write a car off from considering on a misconception ;).


Totally agree Mike

Matt's car will fit the bill admirably :thumbs:

[Jon8710]

don't go see matt sounds like he's going to kick your head in !!

[Has csl]

The cheapest one I can see on pistonheads, is a SB one with 70k . They want 54,990 for it. Looks clean. Also has Nick Johnson reduced the price of the no options car? Can't remember what he had it up for a while ago.

[Pooky]

The cheapest one I can see on pistonheads, is a SB one with 70k . They want 54,990 for it. Looks clean. Also has Nick Johnson reduced the price of the no options car? Can't remember what he had it up for a while ago.

That SB went up at 40k, then 45k, then 50k, now 55k....all by the same dealer.

[Matt21]

Think the reg is YY53 ZBT or similar. Sold by a chap here for sub £30k

[cslsuperfan]

The cheapest one I can see on pistonheads, is a SB one with 70k . They want 54,990 for it. Looks clean. Also has Nick Johnson reduced the price of the no options car? Can't remember what he had it up for a while ago.

NJ has had the no options csl for some time now.

not certain whether it's physically with NJ or with the current owner.

Matt's not exactly beating the "for sale drum" with his car. Hoping he'll see the light and hold on to DUVAY!!

[nw99]

NJ no options always 70k I thought just no takers

[mattCSLnut]

don't go see matt sounds like he's going to kick your head in !!

:hahaha: :smt082 :hahaha: ... but only if I'm being told my Cecil is something it isn't ;)

[Has csl]

I'm so tempted by the Aston Martin V8V. Such a beautiful car to look at. Completely different to csl ownership. Would probably regret it. Trouble is, you have to sample these things. Now where's my omega Seamaster :whistle:

[nw942]

That SB went up at 40k, then 45k, then 50k, now 55k....all by the same dealer.

Discussed in post #60.

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13559&page=2

[Yanto]

The question you should be asking is what is the best value for money rather than what is the cheapest.

If I was looking to buy brake discs, a parachute, a life raft, scuba tanks (you get the idea)....i'd want the best price for the tool entirely capable of the job in hand.

In that case, straight car, well serviced, looked after etc. It'll likely start with a 4.

[cslsuperfan]

The question you should be asking is what is the best value for money rather than what is the cheapest.

If I was looking to buy brake discs, a parachute, a life raft, scuba tanks (you get the idea)....i'd want the best price for the tool entirely capable of the job in hand.

In that case, straight car, well serviced, looked after etc. It'll likely start with a 4.

Yanto

are you trying to tell us you're selling up ;) ?




Seriously I couldn't agree more. Although I do think "starting with a 4" is for maybe the end of Feb and then it'll be a 5!!

[Trawler]

Yanto

are you trying to tell us you're selling up ;) ?

Seriously I couldn't agree more. Although I do think "starting with a 4" is for maybe the end of Feb and then it'll be a 5!!

Then not to insult you I will offer you the full asking price. £49.99.

[Yanto]

Yanto

are you trying to tell us you're selling up ;) ?




Seriously I couldn't agree more. Although I do think "starting with a 4" is for maybe the end of Feb and then it'll be a 5!!

Absolutely not....yet.:smokin:

Then not to insult you I will offer you the full asking price. £49.99.

You Twonk :clown:

[Rags]

There was a guy who bought one on here recently for £20k.

It was that one that was for sale for ages!

[Diamondgeezer]

There was a guy who bought one on here recently for £20k.

It was that one that was for sale for ages!


I think it was this one X222 JAP

Seem to remember it had been hanging around quite a while and a lot of people were put off buying it for whatever reason

I'd imagine that car is now £30k+
Nice profit for the guy who took a punt on it :beer:

[SSS]

I need a nice CSL in my life soon.....

[nw99]

Don't worry I know of a very good one at a great price coming soon .

[SSS]

Don't worry I know of a very good one at a great price coming soon .



Let me know when it's available

[cslsuperfan]

I need a nice CSL in my life soon.....


SG CSL just up on PH

£56K 48,ooo miles

6 year owner, cherished car etc etc

got to be worth a look.

[nw99]

I think it was this one X222 JAP

Seem to remember it had been hanging around quite a while and a lot of people were put off buying it for whatever reason

I'd imagine that car is now £30k+
Nice profit for the guy who took a punt on it :beer:

Yes will be £30k + now crystal ball etc great trade from him

[SSS]

SG CSL just up on PH

£56K 48,ooo miles

6 year owner, cherished car etc etc

got to be worth a look.

Amazing car. I phoned the owner to arrange a viewing, unfortunately working two weekends in a row to arrange a viewing :banghead::bigcry:

[cslsuperfan]

Amazing car. I phoned the owner to arrange a viewing, unfortunately working two weekends in a row to arrange a viewing :banghead::bigcry:


Missed the boat I'm afraid......

already sold!!!!!!

[SSS]

missed the boat i'm afraid......

Already sold!!!!!!

😔