Warrantied SG 2004 BMW M3 CSL #320 for Sale

[Okey]

No doubt I will come to regret this !!

General Overview
62,000 Miles / SOLD !
- Full BMW Service History (Main dealer only)
- Full BMW Comprehensive Warranty (monthly)
- 6 previous owners
- MOT valid to 28-01-2016 (no advisories)
- Currently on Michelin super sports that are only around 6k miles old

Factory options:
- 19" CSL alloy wheels
- A/C Climate Control
- BMW Business CD / Radio / AUX
- Green tint windscreen option

BMW Maintenance
- Complete BMW service schedule and running in service. All stamped / done on time - Complete replacement rear sub-frame boot floor under BMW warranty. Confirmed by Elms, so its fully warranted & certified

- Latest SMG update Elms BMW Cambridge less than 5,000 miles ago at 57,700 miles
-New Diff Elms BMW Cambridge less than 5,000 miles ago at 57,700 miles
- Head gasket Elms BMW Cambridge less than 500 miles ago at approximately 60,500

Sold as Auc by BMW to CSLRegister member in 2009, I purchased it in 2012.
Know forum car for last 6 years, maintained under BMW’s comprehensive warranty for most of this period.

This is the last advert on CSLRegister when I bought it.
http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8774&page=2 (http://www.cslregister.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8774&page=2)

All the key items have been done under the comprehensive BMW warranty.

I have had it maintained and serviced to the highest standard by Elms Cambridge whilst in my care.
Probably around £7k worth of Non warranty bills as well, in addition to the thousands done under warranty.
Some of the other minor items include (this is not the exhaustive list)
- Alarm module
- Air bag recall
- Power steering pump + column
- Petrol gauge sender
- Rear exhaust section
- Latest SMG software installed
- New fuel filter
- Vanos checked by Elms

The car is currently being serviced at Elms Cambridge.
This really is an immaculate car, the engine; transmission, paint work and the interior are in superb condition.

Sold

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[Nico]

too cheap. seriously...

[Okey]

too cheap. seriously...

interesting...
There is a SG at Munich Legends for £41k and a SB one on Pistonheads for £39K...
I think they are all marketed around the £40K so I thought I was on the mark.

[82CSL]

interesting...
There is a SG at Munich Legends for £41k and a SB one on Pistonheads for £39K...
I think they are all marketed around the £40K so I thought I was on the mark.

The 53k mile ML car @ £41,995 sold pretty quickly over summer (their ad just not updated), so that's a real data point.

I think the black 70k mile car at £39k only went up a week or so ago...be interesting to watch and see whether it shifts or not.

[Matt21]

What a lovely looking car. And for me too cheap. This will shift quickly.

The ML car sold in 24hrs. They said they could shift it 5 times over

Apart from the SB car with more miles, there is nothing for sale for less than £60k (guess the modified £49k should be included).

If it's as good as you say, with meticulous history, and you don't need to move it straight away I would say you are £3-4k shy.

GLWTS

[toenheel]

Supply and demand at the end of the day I think your miles away easy a £45k-£50k car to the right person.

[shimmy]

Supply and demand at the end of the day I think your miles away easy a £45k-£50k car to the right person.

if i can get £40k for my beauty then this miust be worth £45

[mattCSLnut]

As others have said this is somewhat underpriced :banghead:
Mid £40Ks is where it should be at :smokin: so long as everything stacks up and there are no hidden surprises lurking within. ;)

[Okey]

My personal take to the question of what is the CSL worth ?
Is it worth £50K.. personally I don’t think so. (pls read the entire post)
I think we CSL owners really know the true value of a CSL. Most people buying these cars now will be coming from other marques, or say Standard E46 M3.
Would they value a CSL at £50k ? Well not really as they are buyers not sellers.
I bought the CSL thinking, I could just park it on the street, run it to work , do the B road drives, a track day here and there and not loose too much money..how worng was I ? My previous car history included 2 Ferrari V8s, a radicle a Lancia Integrale Evo and a couple of Porsches, (I thought I was a petrol head) and even then I knew / heard little of what the CSL was actually all about.
Sitting in the CSL in traffic was a complete waste of its use, parking it on the street with potential damage to the CF roof, the front bumper, meant it soon got garaged. Taking it on track ment it needed brakes, then cups, then potentially suspension and Diff upgrades, plus it became too valuable to start spinning and mounting the kerbs with.
So where does that leave a car, in my opinion that is as good as a Ferrari 360 Stradale and a 996 GT3.
Yes.. I have driven and tracked both of them 10 years ago
The stradale is now worth more than its retail price in 2003… cheapest being around £150k.
The CSL matches it for thrills, drama , interior ambiance.
The CSL’s issue is badge snobbery, joe blogs thinks it’s a tarted up E46
You mention 996 GT3 and people go weak at the knees, you talk about stradales and scuderias and people just nod like its God given they are worth thousands over their base models. And 1.5 Times over original list , its changing more and more as people are now understanding what its about… BUT its still below its original price.
I think the values will rise as long as the economy remains stable. It will then sit at the same level as an E30 M3 Evo.
When I compare the two cars, driven and tracked the E30 as well…
The CSL looks more aggressive, it has a lot more power, sounds a lot more animalistic, such a special place to sit… but the E30 was homologation special so it all balances out.
The CSL covers all bases you can think off,
If it’s a garage queen, keep it standard, polish and replace with New OEM parts, and you have a cracking car that is stunning to behold.
If it’s a weekend B road blasting toy, stick on an exhaust that pops and bangs on the overrun and you have a wonderful tool.
If it’s a track car, AP’s /Intrax lighten the rear, and go drift it to your hearts content.
If it had a Ferrari or Porsche badge on it it would have risen so much monetary wise by now.
I cannot think of too many cars that cover all these bases.
So to answer the question, personally I think my CSL is worth £75K today.( Would someone pay me that for it today? Probably not. ! ) They have risen by 5K per year in the last 3 years, so in another 3 years or so they will all be worth £65 -75K and rising for any car that is simply straight..
The problem is the CSL is too special a car.. hats off to those that drive it daily.. (I couldn’t) hats off to those tracking it hard, (I couldn’t) and I couldn’t have it as a garage Queen either, it not my style… (even though its still stunning to just look at)
I am sinking the money into upgrading my business equipment, and will replace the CSL with a leased modern turbo charged V8 car that can left on the streets, tracked and driven daily without out me having to park 20 miles from Sainsbury car park, leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is birds droppings on the CF roof, and gently going round a track in case I bin it, driving it gloves to keep the steering wheel clean, and keeping the seat covered all the time… plus not letting the doors slam when people are getting in or out.. (probably also saving me a divorce case here.. My wife thinks I have lost the plot.)

[Okey]

and also just to keep all the CSL owners happy, I will leave it at £39k on CSLRegister for the next few weeks and see what happens. (call it the CSL discounted price with a 10% rebate. ;).. If it goes on to Pistonheads or Autotrader I will put it up to £45k

[Okey]

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Reminds you of something ? yaaaa. CSL really is special.

[Yanto]

Assuming it all stacks up, I'll bid you £33k unseen. :beer:

[Rchamps81]

Pm'd

[mattCSLnut]

and also just to keep all the CSL owners happy, I will leave it at £39k on CSLRegister for the next few weeks and see what happens. (call it the CSL discounted price with a 10% rebate. ;).. If it goes on to Pistonheads or Autotrader I will put it up to £45k

That would be a more accurate price :smokin: in keeping with the rest of the current CSL market ;)

[Okey]

Pm'd
cheers, I replied as well.. yes, happy with Elms or Gareth at Bartletts, or any other establishment.

[Okey]

Assuming it all stacks up, I'll bid you £33k unseen. :beer:
:thumbs:

put some more beer money on top, and get the funds ready
:finga:

[LeinsCSL]

GLWS, but I also believe it's too cheap by a good 15%. Anyone who views these as an overpriced E46 M3 isn't in the market for a CSL anyway, it's the person who views it as a cut-price GT3/360CS that will buy it

[Yanto]

:thumbs:

put some more beer money on top, and get the funds ready
:finga:

I don't drink.....ask Leins :beer:

[LeinsCSL]

I don't drink.....ask Leins :beer:

I don't remember either of us drinking 😉

[mattCSLnut]

GLWS, but I also believe it's too cheap by a good 15%. Anyone who views these as an overpriced E46 M3 isn't in the market for a CSL anyway, it's the person who views it as a cut-price GT3/360CS that will buy it

Bang On :beer: that's exactly right :smokin:

[Trawler]

I don't remember either of us drinking 😉

That's what drink does, it affects the memory. :drinkers:

[E46CSL]

My personal take to the question of what is the CSL worth ?
Is it worth £50K.. personally I don’t think so. (pls read the entire post)
I think we CSL owners really know the true value of a CSL. Most people buying these cars now will be coming from other marques, or say Standard E46 M3.
Would they value a CSL at £50k ? Well not really as they are buyers not sellers.
I bought the CSL thinking, I could just park it on the street, run it to work , do the B road drives, a track day here and there and not loose too much money..how worng was I ? My previous car history included 2 Ferrari V8s, a radicle a Lancia Integrale Evo and a couple of Porsches, (I thought I was a petrol head) and even then I knew / heard little of what the CSL was actually all about.
Sitting in the CSL in traffic was a complete waste of its use, parking it on the street with potential damage to the CF roof, the front bumper, meant it soon got garaged. Taking it on track ment it needed brakes, then cups, then potentially suspension and Diff upgrades, plus it became too valuable to start spinning and mounting the kerbs with.
So where does that leave a car, in my opinion that is as good as a Ferrari 360 Stradale and a 996 GT3.
Yes.. I have driven and tracked both of them 10 years ago
The stradale is now worth more than its retail price in 2003… cheapest being around £150k.
The CSL matches it for thrills, drama , interior ambiance.
The CSL’s issue is badge snobbery, joe blogs thinks it’s a tarted up E46
You mention 996 GT3 and people go weak at the knees, you talk about stradales and scuderias and people just nod like its God given they are worth thousands over their base models. And 1.5 Times over original list , its changing more and more as people are now understanding what its about… BUT its still below its original price.
I think the values will rise as long as the economy remains stable. It will then sit at the same level as an E30 M3 Evo.
When I compare the two cars, driven and tracked the E30 as well…
The CSL looks more aggressive, it has a lot more power, sounds a lot more animalistic, such a special place to sit… but the E30 was homologation special so it all balances out.
The CSL covers all bases you can think off,
If it’s a garage queen, keep it standard, polish and replace with New OEM parts, and you have a cracking car that is stunning to behold.
If it’s a weekend B road blasting toy, stick on an exhaust that pops and bangs on the overrun and you have a wonderful tool.
If it’s a track car, AP’s /Intrax lighten the rear, and go drift it to your hearts content.
If it had a Ferrari or Porsche badge on it it would have risen so much monetary wise by now.
I cannot think of too many cars that cover all these bases.
So to answer the question, personally I think my CSL is worth £75K today.( Would someone pay me that for it today? Probably not. ! ) They have risen by 5K per year in the last 3 years, so in another 3 years or so they will all be worth £65 -75K and rising for any car that is simply straight..
The problem is the CSL is too special a car.. hats off to those that drive it daily.. (I couldn’t) hats off to those tracking it hard, (I couldn’t) and I couldn’t have it as a garage Queen either, it not my style… (even though its still stunning to just look at)
I am sinking the money into upgrading my business equipment, and will replace the CSL with a leased modern turbo charged V8 car that can left on the streets, tracked and driven daily without out me having to park 20 miles from Sainsbury car park, leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is birds droppings on the CF roof, and gently going round a track in case I bin it, driving it gloves to keep the steering wheel clean, and keeping the seat covered all the time… plus not letting the doors slam when people are getting in or out.. (probably also saving me a divorce case here.. My wife thinks I have lost the plot.)

Enjoyed reading this :thumbs:

[sp2c]

Ditto last comment, I to enjoyed reading the eloquently written post from Okey
Well done sir for taking the time & effort to express your thoughts

[s.mac]

:smt038

[Okey]

Enjoyed reading this :thumbs:

Cheers buddy, I could have gone on for hours on end. !!! Top car basically... :smt055

[cslsuperfan]

Cheers buddy, I could have gone on for hours on end. !!! Top car basically... :smt055


Nice narrative Okey.

a refreshing angle not always discussed

Let's hope they don't reach 75K

To stop driving these cars due to rising "garage queen" values would be a sad state of affairs.

[73CSL]

as you know , I've been thinking of selling mine and replacing it with another aircooled Porsche to sit alongside my other 2 ..... but, when I've started looking there is hardly anything decent in the CSL price bracket. Even looking at other makes, what else is there that is fun to drive, has little or no depreciation ?

The CSL really does seem to stand alone at around £40K

[Okey]

as you know , I've been thinking of selling mine and replacing it with another aircooled Porsche to sit alongside my other 2 ..... but, when I've started looking there is hardly anything decent in the CSL price bracket. Even looking at other makes, what else is there that is fun to drive, has little or no depreciation ?

The CSL really does seem to stand alone at around £40K

totally agreed.!! maybe Cayman R, but its down on power, and has no special bespoke bits.!! (I may be wrong)

Hold on to it if you don't need to sell... I know I will have to part with £55K when I return to the CSL fold.

[Okey]

Nice narrative Okey.

a refreshing angle not always discussed

Let's hope they don't reach 75K

To stop driving these cars due to rising "garage queen" values would be a sad state of affairs.

Kodus to you with what you have done... It's got to be something else to drive !! Has most of the right bits.
You must be laughing every time you take it out for a blast.
Think there is another stripped out version on here...

[cslsuperfan]

Kodus to you with what you have done... It's got to be something else to drive !! Has most of the right bits.
You must be laughing every time you take it out for a blast.
Think there is another stripped out version on here...


It's a hoot on the ring and on track but getting there is a little testing. :smokin:

[Okey]

It's a hoot on the ring and on track but getting there is a little testing. :smokin:

Noise ? As the intrax isn't too harsh. Hmm when are you out next? I would love to get a passenger ride..

[Mike R]

It's a hoot on the ring and on track but getting there is a little testing. :smokin:

You need to keep the revs up (around 90mph does it :blalalala: ).

[cslsuperfan]

Noise ? As the intrax isn't too harsh. Hmm when are you out next? I would love to get a passenger ride..


Noise is fine

Its the 16 stone lardy arse shoed into the recaro spa, great for track not so good for the M25 balancing a Starbucks!!!!!

Hopefully Spa on the 19th Oct!!

[sfh3l]

I couldn't agree with your last post more, Okey.

I'm now 3 years away from the CSL I owned and used as a daily driver and the car is as large in my memory as it was the day I watched Jon drive it away up my drive. I also did 8 years behind the wheel of a Sport Evo E30, also as an every day car and the two were worlds apart. The E30 was much easier to drive in fact, as it was way less intoxicating and generally less dangerous.

The E46 CSL is a very, very special car that gets under the skin rather like a hypodermic and injects its nasty potion and you're hooked - job done. People do regard them very differently from the outside and then when/if they get the chance to live with one for a while they really get what it is all about.

For what it's worth, I run a little Boxster now as a cheapish everyday car that is fun and pure to drive. I lucked into a dealer day at Porsche the other day and drove a 911 GTS Cab and a Targa, both with less than 5,000 miles and both epic cars. Neither was half the adrenaline rush that driving the CSL delivered every day that I owned it. OK, they are PDK, which is about a thousand years more sophisticated than the problematic (for every day traffic infested driving) SMG, but neither was a patch on the CSL. Both those cars were up for over £100K as used cars with their spec, so there is another perspective.

All I would say to Okey is to be really, really sure that he wants to sell it before he lets someone give him a stack of boring money and drive his pride and joy away, as there is no going back :bigcry:

[Okey]

Arghhh tell me about it.. Yes. It's a special car. What other car at that price with alcantara and carbon fibre with parts designed by the motorsports division exist at the price ??
None..
Worlds best kept secret. And its a special drive.
I was looking at a 1M and I could see the attraction but there are no clever trick bits on it... Cayman gt4 at 90k ??
It will be tricky to replace at 40k so going to forget that and start looking at special keepers over 100k.. Have a feeling I need another 50k on top of that.. Scarry

[Jon8710]

I couldn't agree with your last post more, Okey.

I'm now 3 years away from the CSL I owned and used as a daily driver and the car is as large in my memory as it was the day I watched Jon drive it away up my drive. I also did 8 years behind the wheel of a Sport Evo E30, also as an every day car and the two were worlds apart. The E30 was much easier to drive in fact, as it was way less intoxicating and generally less dangerous.

The E46 CSL is a very, very special car that gets under the skin rather like a hypodermic and injects its nasty potion and you're hooked - job done. People do regard them very differently from the outside and then when/if they get the chance to live with one for a while they really get what it is all about.

For what it's worth, I run a little Boxster now as a cheapish everyday car that is fun and pure to drive. I lucked into a dealer day at Porsche the other day and drove a 911 GTS Cab and a Targa, both with less than 5,000 miles and both epic cars. Neither was half the adrenaline rush that driving the CSL delivered every day that I owned it. OK, they are PDK, which is about a thousand years more sophisticated than the problematic (for every day traffic infested driving) SMG, but neither was a patch on the CSL. Both those cars were up for over £100K as used cars with their spec, so there is another perspective.

All I would say to Okey is to be really, really sure that he wants to sell it before he lets someone give him a stack of boring money and drive his pride and joy away, as there is no going back :bigcry:


Hi Sam

good to hear from you, just so you know your (my) CSL is still going very strong and loving every moment of it, hope your well mate
if you play your cards right I may sell it back to you one day :hahaha:

[Okey]

Hi Sam

good to hear from you, just so you know your (my) CSL is still going very strong and loving every moment of it, hope your well mate
if you play your cards right I may sell it back to you one day :hahaha:

Lol
Love it. Kick a man when he is down :hahaha:

[Okey]

Looks like it's sold..
Pending final transaction tomorrow

[Diamondgeezer]

Looks like it's sold..
Pending final transaction tomorrow

I hope all goes well mate
Someone has got a great car and I hope to see it with the new owner soon :thumbs:

[sfh3l]

Lol
Love it. Kick a man when he is down :hahaha:

Down.....Down.....Down, going down.

Yeah, thanks Jon. I always knew there was something I didn't quite like about you (:finga:). I was only trying to save the lad a whole lot of heartache, but it seems he's gone and done it now in any case - poor fool.

I'm glad to see that you're still enjoying the car in the manner it was meant to be. Take care all.

[Okey]

I hope all goes well mate
Someone has got a great car and I hope to see it with the new owner soon :thumbs:

How r u ? Let me know when next track outing is.

Tomorrow will be all:bigcry:once concluded..

[mattCSLnut]

Looks like it's sold..
Pending final transaction tomorrow

I think I know the buyer :whistle:

[Diamondgeezer]

How r u ? Let me know when next track outing is.

Tomorrow will be all:bigcry:once concluded..

No track days planned at the moment as it's bit chilly in the caterham and I'm a bit old and fragile these days ;)
Hope all goes well today and we'll catch up over the weekend

[73CSL]

Down.....Down.....Down, going down.

Yeah, thanks Jon. I always knew there was something I didn't quite like about you (:finga:). I was only trying to save the lad a whole lot of heartache, but it seems he's gone and done it now in any case - poor fool.

I'm glad to see that you're still enjoying the car in the manner it was meant to be. Take care all.

... blood orange 72 911 ? You on DDK ?

[sfh3l]

Erm, yes. Same forum name as here.

[73CSL]

:thumbs:

im 'hot66' on ddk :smokin:

trying to convince myself not to sell the csl for another Porsche

[Okey]

I think I know the buyer :whistle:

Better tell him he got a stunning car there.
It's gone!!
His quote 'it drives nicely' heee heeee

[sfh3l]

:thumbs:

im 'hot66' on ddk :smokin:

trying to convince myself not to sell the csl for another Porsche

I suppose to a certain extent it depends on the Porsche that would take the csl's place as to how difficult that decision is. However, no Porsche that you'll buy for csl money os going to provide anything like the same dynamic experience. You'd need pretty much to sell 2 csl's to achieve that, which is a demonstration of what a fabulous car it is for the relatively modest current values......

However, if it is to buy an older Porker, then the whole dynamics thing is somewhat different. My '72 T is arguably more of an event and challenge to drive at sensible speeds than ever the csl was, which is just as well, as the 'stupid' speeds that the csl would comfortably sneer at would be impossible or fatal in the wayward and brakeless Porsche. Apples and oranges don't make too good a comparison really. ;)

If you're already able to sample old 911 goodness on a regular basis, I would say that the csl is a definite keeper. I just didn't have enough space and money to do it all at the same time.....

[sfh3l]

Meant to ask - is the "73 CSL" in relation to what I think it is?
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[MisterCorn]

Meant to ask - is the "73 CSL" in relation to what I think it is?

What do you think it is? I would guess it is somebody who owns a CSL and was born in 1973, but that is probably because that is when I was born.

MC

[73CSL]

I suppose to a certain extent it depends on the Porsche that would take the csl's place as to how difficult that decision is. However, no Porsche that you'll buy for csl money os going to provide anything like the same dynamic experience. You'd need pretty much to sell 2 csl's to achieve that, which is a demonstration of what a fabulous car it is for the relatively modest current values......

However, if it is to buy an older Porker, then the whole dynamics thing is somewhat different. My '72 T is arguably more of an event and challenge to drive at sensible speeds than ever the csl was, which is just as well, as the 'stupid' speeds that the csl would comfortably sneer at would be impossible or fatal in the wayward and brakeless Porsche. Apples and oranges don't make too good a comparison really. ;)

If you're already able to sample old 911 goodness on a regular basis, I would say that the csl is a definite keeper. I just didn't have enough space and money to do it all at the same time.....

I have my '73 2.4S & '93 964 C2 , another Porsche will be in addition to these, which does make the decision to sell the CSL a bit more difficult

.. 73CSL , as much as I'd like a genuine early CSL, my user name is no more exotic than the year I was born :hahaha:

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[sfh3l]

What do you think it is? I would guess it is somebody who owns a CSL and was born in 1973, but that is probably because that is when I was born.

MC

Learn you history MC ! 73CSL could have had an entirely different meaning and one altogether more car focused.

The Daddy:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/IMG_1002.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/sfh3l/media/IMG_1002.jpg.html)
Without the 72/3 CSL there'd be no 2003/4 CSL :supz:

73CSL - you already have perfection in your 911, so my advice would be to stay put with the CSL and keep the Porkers too. Automotive Heaven :thumbs:

[MisterCorn]

Learn you history MC ! 73CSL could have had an entirely different meaning and one altogether more car focused.

The Daddy:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/IMG_1002.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/sfh3l/media/IMG_1002.jpg.html)
Without the 72/3 CSL there'd be no 2003/4 CSL :supz:

73CSL - you already have perfection in your 911, so my advice would be to stay put with the CSL and keep the Porkers too. Automotive Heaven :thumbs:

I knew that it COULD have meant that, but my guess was that it didn't. This was based on how many people have similar forum names and use the last two digits of their year of birth to differentiate them when using a common part for the rest of the name.
Besides, I was right :supz:.

73MC

[mattCSLnut]

@ Sam :notworthy: :smt055 :notworthy:


The Daddy:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/sfh3l/IMG_1002.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/sfh3l/media/IMG_1002.jpg.html)
Without the 72/3 CSL there'd be no 2003/4 CSL :supz:

[sfh3l]

I knew that it COULD have meant that, but my guess was that it didn't. This was based on how many people have similar forum names and use the last two digits of their year of birth to differentiate them when using a common part for the rest of the name.
Besides, I was right :supz:.

73MC

I suppose you're right. I never liked the sound of "66TWAT" though :thumbs:

[Bounce]

I suppose you're right. I never liked the sound of "66TWAT" though :thumbs::hahaha::hahaha:

[SSS]

My personal take to the question of what is the CSL worth ?
Is it worth £50K.. personally I don’t think so. (pls read the entire post)
I think we CSL owners really know the true value of a CSL. Most people buying these cars now will be coming from other marques, or say Standard E46 M3.
Would they value a CSL at £50k ? Well not really as they are buyers not sellers.
I bought the CSL thinking, I could just park it on the street, run it to work , do the B road drives, a track day here and there and not loose too much money..how worng was I ? My previous car history included 2 Ferrari V8s, a radicle a Lancia Integrale Evo and a couple of Porsches, (I thought I was a petrol head) and even then I knew / heard little of what the CSL was actually all about.
Sitting in the CSL in traffic was a complete waste of its use, parking it on the street with potential damage to the CF roof, the front bumper, meant it soon got garaged. Taking it on track ment it needed brakes, then cups, then potentially suspension and Diff upgrades, plus it became too valuable to start spinning and mounting the kerbs with.
So where does that leave a car, in my opinion that is as good as a Ferrari 360 Stradale and a 996 GT3.
Yes.. I have driven and tracked both of them 10 years ago
The stradale is now worth more than its retail price in 2003… cheapest being around £150k.
The CSL matches it for thrills, drama , interior ambiance.
The CSL’s issue is badge snobbery, joe blogs thinks it’s a tarted up E46
You mention 996 GT3 and people go weak at the knees, you talk about stradales and scuderias and people just nod like its God given they are worth thousands over their base models. And 1.5 Times over original list , its changing more and more as people are now understanding what its about… BUT its still below its original price.
I think the values will rise as long as the economy remains stable. It will then sit at the same level as an E30 M3 Evo.
When I compare the two cars, driven and tracked the E30 as well…
The CSL looks more aggressive, it has a lot more power, sounds a lot more animalistic, such a special place to sit… but the E30 was homologation special so it all balances out.
The CSL covers all bases you can think off,
If it’s a garage queen, keep it standard, polish and replace with New OEM parts, and you have a cracking car that is stunning to behold.
If it’s a weekend B road blasting toy, stick on an exhaust that pops and bangs on the overrun and you have a wonderful tool.
If it’s a track car, AP’s /Intrax lighten the rear, and go drift it to your hearts content.
If it had a Ferrari or Porsche badge on it it would have risen so much monetary wise by now.
I cannot think of too many cars that cover all these bases.
So to answer the question, personally I think my CSL is worth £75K today.( Would someone pay me that for it today? Probably not. ! ) They have risen by 5K per year in the last 3 years, so in another 3 years or so they will all be worth £65 -75K and rising for any car that is simply straight..
The problem is the CSL is too special a car.. hats off to those that drive it daily.. (I couldn’t) hats off to those tracking it hard, (I couldn’t) and I couldn’t have it as a garage Queen either, it not my style… (even though its still stunning to just look at)
I am sinking the money into upgrading my business equipment, and will replace the CSL with a leased modern turbo charged V8 car that can left on the streets, tracked and driven daily without out me having to park 20 miles from Sainsbury car park, leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is birds droppings on the CF roof, and gently going round a track in case I bin it, driving it gloves to keep the steering wheel clean, and keeping the seat covered all the time… plus not letting the doors slam when people are getting in or out.. (probably also saving me a divorce case here.. My wife thinks I have lost the plot.)

I love the "leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is bird droppings on the CF roof"