DN13 - who's going?

[terryb]

I'll be there taking my 991 GT3 out on track for the 1st time - can't wait to see how it stacks up against my old one :)

[cslsuperfan]

I'll be there taking my 991 GT3 out on track for the 1st time - can't wait to see how it stacks up against my old one :)

See you there!!

Staying @ the Tiergarten.

[terryb]

Nice one, we'll have to hook up, I haven't booked yet but looks like the Tiergarten is fully booked.

[terryb]

Sorted - staying at the Tiergarten too - there should be a few of us and my old Gt3 will be there too :)

[rstoughy]

I'll be there. Taking the red M3 and we are in the TG.

[cslsuperfan]

I'll be there. Taking the red M3 and we are in the TG.

Paul

looking forward to seeing the Red Beast!!!

[Mike R]

Paul,
Gutted I can't make it (head bolts are on back order until 10th :( ), but Ben will be there in his V8 and hopefully it will have the full aero package on :).

Really pissed off (so much so, I can't even bring nyself to go as a passenger :( :bigcry: ).

[rstoughy]

Just go shotgun Mike. No driving = more beer :thumbs:

[GregorJP]

I am going. Taking the GTR for its final Ring outing before sticking her up for sale.

[cslsuperfan]

Anyone heading for the tunnel next Tuesday morning?

[terryb]

Anyone heading for the tunnel next Tuesday morning?

I'm on the 12.20 train - what time are you on?

[cslsuperfan]

I'm on the 12.20 train - what time are you on?

I was thinking of an early crossing so I can make the registration check in tuesday pm. Last email sent out stated 1400-1630 Hrs registration on Tuesday 29th,

I've been told it saves a bit of time doing this before Day 1.

[terryb]

From the DN website - these are the times

Tuesday 29th September 2015
Venue - ROTEK RACING, 1-3 Gottlieb Daimler Strasse, Meuspath, Germany
Registration, all drivers and all passengers
17.00 - 18.30 - Registration.
18.30 - 19.00 - Compulsory Drivers briefing

My 12.20 train should arrive at 1355 in Calais, so I'm hoping to arrive for the start of the briefing at 1830 - 4.5 hours to the Ring should be doable from Calais :)

There is a briefing at 0830 on Wednesday morning if you don't make Tuesday's - this will be on site in the Ring Taxi office - it would mean that you miss the sighting laps which are from 0800 to 0900 - which doesn't bother me to be honest. 2 full days so plenty of time to acclimatise and get on it - fingers crossed for good weather :)

[shimmy]

be safe Terry and guys

[terryb]

be safe Terry and guys


Cheers Shimmy - will do mate :beer:

[cslsuperfan]

From the DN website - these are the times

Tuesday 29th September 2015
Venue - ROTEK RACING, 1-3 Gottlieb Daimler Strasse, Meuspath, Germany
Registration, all drivers and all passengers
17.00 - 18.30 - Registration.
18.30 - 19.00 - Compulsory Drivers briefing

My 12.20 train should arrive at 1355 in Calais, so I'm hoping to arrive for the start of the briefing at 1830 - 4.5 hours to the Ring should be doable from Calais :)

There is a briefing at 0830 on Wednesday morning if you don't make Tuesday's - this will be on site in the Ring Taxi office - it would mean that you miss the sighting laps which are from 0800 to 0900 - which doesn't bother me to be honest. 2 full days so plenty of time to acclimatise and get on it - fingers crossed for good weather :)

Terry

probably going early doors but will let you know if I decide to travel in the pm.

[cslsuperfan]

be safe Terry and guys


Will do shim :smokin:

[rstoughy]

We're on the Newcastle Party boat Monday night. if you pass me while trundling along with the trailer give me a beep :bigcry:

[cslsuperfan]

Received latest email from Darren

Sounds like event parking has been an issue in the past

As long as the germans aren't laying out their towels at 5 in the morning we'll be OK ;)

[rstoughy]

Received latest email from Darren

Sounds like event parking has been an issue in the past

As long as the germans aren't laying out their towels at 5 in the morning we'll be OK ;)

If you booked early enough you will be allocated a pass for the main car park. If not it will be over the road.
I think the main problem with the parking is that folk try and keep their spaces with tool boxes, wheels etc etc. It can get a bit manic.

[mattCSLnut]

Be safe chaps and no "Handbags at dawn" with zee locals ;)

[cslsuperfan]

If you booked early enough you will be allocated a pass for the main car park. If not it will be over the road.
I think the main problem with the parking is that folk try and keep their spaces with tool boxes, wheels etc etc. It can get a bit manic.


Paul

I booked in February so fingers crossed for the main car park.
:smokin:

[cslsuperfan]

Be safe chaps and no "Handbags at dawn" with zee locals ;)


Matt

I will be the model of diplomacy and decorum. ;)

[mattCSLnut]

Matt

I will be the model of diplomacy and decorum. ;)

Would that by any chance involve you walking down Adenau high street with a large Union Jack draped over your back while whistling the theme tune to "The great escape" ? :whistle: ;)

[terryb]

Guys, have you got a table at the Pistenklause booked yet? I'm going to book one for 19.30 on Tuesday and at the moment have 2 or 3 from PGT so let me know if you want me to count you in too and how many seats :)

[billyboysm3]

Have fun all.

[rstoughy]

Guys, have you got a table at the Pistenklause booked yet? I'm going to book one for 19.30 on Tuesday and at the moment have 2 or 3 from PGT so let me know if you want me to count you in too and how many seats :)

I'll be there, we already have a table booked for 20:00.
All loaded up and ready for the off 1st thing tomorrow morning :thumbs:

[shimmy]

im jealous guys.....enjoy and be safe

[glendog74]

im jealous guys.....enjoy and be safe

+1 :thumbs:

[GregorJP]

I doubt there will be a problem with the parking. There wasn't any problem at DN12 - just the odd knobbers with a full pit crew and airjacks who were, predictably, not that useful on track.

I am taking an early train and the weather looks set to be fabulous, so cannot wait. I'll be in a black GTR and my mates will be in a black GTR and silver M3, so any of you CSL boys, please feel free to come and say hello - not least so you can brag about how much more your cars are worth since I sold mine.

[rstoughy]

See you there Gregor :thumbs:
We're on the boat and on the beer :beer:

[need4speed]

See you there Gregor :thumbs:
We're on the boat and on the beer :beer:

Have a bucketload for me too, gutted I can't make this one!

[Yanto]

PICS.........:beer:

[terryb]

I doubt there will be a problem with the parking. There wasn't any problem at DN12 - just the odd knobbers with a full pit crew and airjacks who were, predictably, not that useful on track.

I am taking an early train and the weather looks set to be fabulous, so cannot wait. I'll be in a black GTR and my mates will be in a black GTR and silver M3, so any of you CSL boys, please feel free to come and say hello - not least so you can brag about how much more your cars are worth since I sold mine.

Gregor, I'm parked across the street from you at the Tiergarten - white 991GT3 - I've a table at 8pm too - I'll be there with Tony who actually has my old 996GT3 - small world :)

I'm also parked next to a tricked out red M3 which I have seen on a few track days before today :)

[billyboysm3]

I fancy steak on a stone!!

[cslsuperfan]

The only CSL @ DN13!!!!

Shame on you all.

Big Hello to Paul, Paul's Dad, Nigel, Alex, & Terry B

Congrats to Paul on breaking 8 minutes, Lawsy's old M3 is the business!!!

Fastest time witnessed 7:14 in a 2015 M3 4 door......slightly modified.


Car of the event......2015 merc 500SLS........had a big off on Day 2 during the morning siting laps.

Couldn't bring myself to take any pictures......

[terryb]

Good to see you too mate and Paul. I also broke 8 mins - I think I may have been the fastest with a car without buckets and harnesses, lol :). My claim to fame :)

[rstoughy]

What a great few days guys. Was great to meet you and great to be back over there.
Company and weather was superb :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs::beer:

Fair old trek though only getting in the door at 15:00 today after leaving the TG at 09:00 Thurs :bigcry: :bigcry:

The car ran without incident. there's a much quicker time in it due to the fact I done the sub 8min lap held up by a radical all the way to Breidscheid then got a waved yellow at Brunchen but that's just excuses :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

What a great few days guys. Was great to meet you and great to be back over there.
Company and weather was superb :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs::beer:

Fair old trek though only getting in the door at 15:00 today after leaving the TG at 09:00 Thurs :bigcry: :bigcry:

The car ran without incident. there's a much quicker time in it due to the fact I done the sub 8min lap held up by a radical all the way to Breidscheid then got a waved yellow at Brunchen but that's just excuses :hahaha:

Great to see your getting quicker Paul, no substitute for seat time. Noticed you are into 57 at knock hill now too:thumbs:

The f80 time doesn't surprise me, I did a track day today and they're ballistic for a standard car. With up rated brakes and tyres it would be another animal:supz:

[terryb]

Lawsy - you have let a lasting impression with the woman owner of the Tiergarten as every time we went for breakfast she would shout at us - WE DON'T SERVE ENGLISH BREAKFASTS BECAUSE WE ARE IN GERMANY !!! ;)

We didn't even ask for an English breakfast - you have tarnished the reputation of us Brits :)

[Yanto]

"but Sir, you are in Germany"..... Lol

Sabines mother iirc:hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

Did you guys eat in the Pk? Last 2 times we went the service was really really bad, and food not up to standard either?

[terryb]

Did you guys eat in the Pk? Last 2 times we went the service was really really bad, and food not up to standard either?

lol, yep not the best service - but probably due to being midweek - I've always had better service at a weekend before now. Although eat at Martin's (Burgstube) the middle night - I couldn't face steak on a stone 3 nights on the trot - gave me the shakes last time I did that :)

[terryb]

"but Sir, you are in Germany"..... Lol

Sabines mother iirc:hahaha:

lol, yes indeed - Monika I think her name is. When she clocked me, she was looking nervously for a gobby scouser :blalalala:

[GregorJP]

Boys, sorry to have missed meeting you all. I ended up only being able to stay for the Wednesday due to work commitments - left the Blaue Ecke at 6am on Thursday, arrived in my office near Liverpool St at 1pm. Long slog.

Glad to hear everyone had a good time and got some decent laps in. Terry, I saw your car out there and think I may even have it on video at some point. A fair few 991s in attendance and I also have a nice clip of the red Getspeed 991 RS having a nice bit of unexpected drifting followed by some brown trousers slow driving.

The GTR was pretty epic, only let down by having MPSS (better for the road, not fantastic on track). My best lap was a 7.57 and I'll post the video soon. I know the car has a lot more to give too. I keep pussying out at Flugplatz (probably flying GTRs on the brain) and I still dare not go flat at Bergwerk.

I hear Thursday morning was red-flag heaven, so glad we all drove our cars home ok.

[cslsuperfan]

Boys, sorry to have missed meeting you all. I ended up only being able to stay for the Wednesday due to work commitments - left the Blaue Ecke at 6am on Thursday, arrived in my office near Liverpool St at 1pm. Long slog.

Glad to hear everyone had a good time and got some decent laps in. Terry, I saw your car out there and think I may even have it on video at some point. A fair few 991s in attendance and I also have a nice clip of the red Getspeed 991 RS having a nice bit of unexpected drifting followed by some brown trousers slow driving.

The GTR was pretty epic, only let down by having MPSS (better for the road, not fantastic on track). My best lap was a 7.57 and I'll post the video soon. I know the car has a lot more to give too. I keep pussying out at Flugplatz (probably flying GTRs on the brain) and I still dare not go flat at Bergwerk.

I hear Thursday morning was red-flag heaven, so glad we all drove our cars home ok.


About 90 minutes red flag in the morning followed by 30 minutes in the afternoon.

The big delay was a Clio Sport undertaking followed by synchronised barrier trashing. Bet his barrier Bill was epic.
Needless to say the Clio was toast.

[shimmy]

About 90 minutes red flag in the morning followed by 30 minutes in the afternoon.

The big delay was a Clio Sport undertaking followed by synchronised barrier trashing. Bet his barrier Bill was epic.
Needless to say the Clio was toast.

Who binned it in the silver M3?

[shimmy]

lol, yes indeed - Monika I think her name is. When she clocked me, she was looking nervously for a gobby scouser :blalalala:

Not sure why you needed to type "gobby" there, I think scouser says the same thing. ;)

[Bounce]

"but Sir, you are in Germany"..... Lol

Sabines mother iirc:hahaha::whistle::whistle:

[billyboysm3]

Who binned it in the silver M3?

I saw that on youtube, also looks like it had slicks on.

[shane@mbtech]

Not sure why you needed to type "gobby" there, I think scouser says the same thing. ;)

That's racist :birdman:

[shimmy]

That's racist :birdman:

So you are admitting Scousers are a different race :)

[cslsuperfan]

Who binned it in the silver M3?


The only damaged M3 I saw was an E46 M3 Titanium Silver

owned by Nigel from Reading

Rear O/S Wing skimmed the barrier, very light damage considering.

Also owns an E9 CSL!!!

[shimmy]

The only damaged M3 I saw was an E46 M3 Titanium Silver

owned by Nigel from Reading

Rear O/S Wing skimmed the barrier, very light damage considering.

Also owns an E9 CSL!!!

This one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/171958197164

[shane@mbtech]

So you are admitting Scousers are a different race :)

I thought that was common knowledge, most definitely a breed unto ourselves :blalalala:

[cslsuperfan]

This one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/171958197164


No.

Damage was much less on Nigel's M3.

[Mike R]

This one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/171958197164

That looks like the one that spun out into the barriers at the exit of Adenau Forst and then drove back on to the track....

[cslsuperfan]

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13C_6365HR_zpszmmnjxnb.jpg

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13C_4917HR_zps4haqhw4s.jpg

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13C_0898HR_zps1gswyubn.jpg

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13A_0545HR_zpsbggt9nlt.jpg

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13C_0129HR_zpsz6gay3cg.jpg

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13B_0657HR_zpsrn33g7j7.jpg

Few snaps from DN13 :thumbs:

[cslsuperfan]

Big thank you to my son, Brett, who pax'd every lap with me on the Wednesday

Great to see my car coming flat through the start/finish

Epic noise only eclipsed by the Porsche Cup Cars and the vast numbers of GT3 RS's

Fookin' Mint those GT3's!!!!!!

[shimmy]

Big thank you to my son, Brett, who pax'd every lap with me on the Wednesday

Great to see my car coming flat through the start/finish

Epic noise only eclipsed by the Porsche Cup Cars and the vast numbers of GT3 RS's

Fookin' Mint those GT3's!!!!!!

He's a brave lad :)

[GregorJP]

Here's a couple of laps from DN13. I gave my mate Dan in his E46 M3 a 20-second head start and, as you can see, he gave me a good run for my money considering the power difference. Conditions were amazing. My tyres (MPSS) were a big hindrance and I reckon the car would have been significantly quicker on the standard Dunlops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqctm796S0

[cslsuperfan]

Here's a couple of laps from DN13. I gave my mate Dan in his E46 M3 a 20-second head start and, as you can see, he gave me a good run for my money considering the power difference. Conditions were amazing. My tyres (MPSS) were a big hindrance and I reckon the car would have been significantly quicker on the standard Dunlops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqctm796S0


Dan did a grand job in the M3!!!!!

Maybe 20 seconds was a little to generous ;)

[cslsuperfan]

He's a brave lad :)


One day was enough for me.

Brett had the car on Thursday and did well against some awesome cars.

The Nissan GTR's were the standout car for me.

Some of them had biblical power attached to some very brave drivers.

Despite some esteemed car park company cesil pulled plenty of attention.

Not bad for a 12 year old coupe with room for your full set of Wilson's!!;)

[glendog74]

Great pix/vids boys! Very envious... :bigcry::smokin:

[GregorJP]

One day was enough for me.

Brett had the car on Thursday and did well against some awesome cars.

The Nissan GTR's were the standout car for me.

Some of them had biblical power attached to some very brave drivers.

Despite some esteemed car park company cesil pulled plenty of attention.

Not bad for a 12 year old coupe with room for your full set of Wilson's!!;)

You are right about biblical power - my car runs around 640/620 and demolishes most things in a straight line. I am not sure that you need to be so brave, though. Stick the car in RRR mode, especially with the Litchfield race map, and the only limiting factor is your disbelief. The computer intervenes a lot, especially when you are running road tyres as I was. As you can see from the video, we do a 7.57 on road tyres, no cage, etc and it wasn't that strenuous.

HOWEVER...

In terms of fun around the Ring, my old CSL beats my GTR hands down.

[Scott]

http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o680/brett_clark1/DN13/DN13C_4917HR_zps4haqhw4s.jpg





Awesome. Love the cage :supz:

[terryb]

A few pics from an awesome event :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/991%20GT3/E093F239-8EE7-4E52-9D0F-680EB47DA4C0_zpsvf3cgcte.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/991%20GT3/E093F239-8EE7-4E52-9D0F-680EB47DA4C0_zpsvf3cgcte.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/991%20GT3/99A83893-E186-4AB0-AA13-0E058A9613E3_zps1eae8jhq.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/991%20GT3/99A83893-E186-4AB0-AA13-0E058A9613E3_zps1eae8jhq.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/991%20GT3/0F057392-FD0E-4770-9C13-E6FA0C5A3DB5_zpsqew6ntni.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/991%20GT3/0F057392-FD0E-4770-9C13-E6FA0C5A3DB5_zpsqew6ntni.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/991%20GT3/4DDC79F2-66F6-4C24-B162-18CEFB2A2FF8_zpsmlwhmtyx.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/991%20GT3/4DDC79F2-66F6-4C24-B162-18CEFB2A2FF8_zpsmlwhmtyx.jpg.html)

From DN13 - love it :)

[terryb]

My 1st ever sub 8 :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=voWp3NfZQD8

[Stumpy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/terryb/991%20GT3/4DDC79F2-66F6-4C24-B162-18CEFB2A2FF8_zpsmlwhmtyx.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/terryb/media/991%20GT3/4DDC79F2-66F6-4C24-B162-18CEFB2A2FF8_zpsmlwhmtyx.jpg.html)




That sir, is ace...

:supz:

Just been reading someone else's report. He was there driving an old Mk 2 Golf with lots of Aero? Nigel's the name. Very very fast. Managed 7.45s... Did you come across him?

[GregorJP]

I don't know him personally, but they guy with the Golf that looks like it's held together by sticky tape is there at most DN events. Somewhat of a Ring veteran. The car looks a little dubious in places but, as stated, he's proper quick in it. Always fun to see him come up behind very expensive cars and then harry them until they let him past.

Terry, the GT3 looks lovely.

[terryb]

That sir, is ace...

:supz:

Just been reading someone else's report. He was there driving an old Mk 2 Golf with lots of Aero? Nigel's the name. Very very fast. Managed 7.45s... Did you come across him?

Nige is a really nice guy - the Golf has had some serious hours put into it - apparently 300+bhp and sub 1000kg. I follow him for a while in my video above - then he lets me past but stays with me for the whole lap - he must have done 1000's of laps - he's always there when I'm there, lol :)

[Stumpy]

Nige took me for a lap in that golf back in 2010 (my first trip). Really nice guy.
That golfs been developed over the years into a real weapon.

Anyway, am definitely going next year. Went twice over the last 12 months in the CSL. Managed a total of 1 lap due to bad weather!

:bigcry:

[Pip1968]

My 1st ever sub 8 :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=voWp3NfZQD8

So 991 is a lot easier than the old 996 GT3 where you have to work it or just conditions and track knowledge improvement???

Pip

[terryb]

So 991 is a lot easier than the old 996 GT3 where you have to work it or just conditions and track knowledge improvement???

Pip

A bit of both - there is no doubt the 991 is a fair bit faster, but it was my 1st time on track in this car and it has no buckets/ harnesses. My 996 in comparison was a full on track focused car and I knew it inside out after 5.5 yrs.

Mods planned for the 991 to make more track focused :)

[cslsuperfan]

A bit of both - there is no doubt the 991 is a fair bit faster, but it was my 1st time on track in this car and it has no buckets/ harnesses. My 996 in comparison was a full on track focused car and I knew it inside out after 5.5 yrs.

Mods planned for the 991 to make more track focused :)

Terry, from experience that's going to be expensive!

Can you actually improve the perfect car???