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Mike R
27-08-2015, 04:41 PM
EDITED TO CLARIFY, THE ONES IN THE FORE-GROUND ARE THE ORIGINALS AND THE ONES IN THE BACK-GROUND ARE THE NEW ONES (the creamy coloured stuff on the OE ones is where they have had the mold taken from them).

Not sure where to put this, so thought I would start here and then if Mark feels it belongs in the for sale section, it can be moved.

Having seen how poor the current BMW flippers are now that BMW are no longer getting them made from the original supplier (coming unlacquered and needing trimming to make them even fit), I gave my spare set to my mate who makes carbon parts for a living (he supplies parts for Indy Car, historic F1 and Mitsubishi UK as a guide to the quality) and he came up with these. They weren't intended to be exact copies (a bit of confusion in communication), but he even replicated the OE stickers :whistle:.

Don't get me wrong, the idea wasn't / isn't to fool anyone, but for people to be able to stick these ones on the car (as they are cheaper / better than the current BMW ones) and then keep the original items for when the car is sold. That way people can keep the genuine "generation 1" items in perfect condition and not have to worry about putting the shonky "generation 2" ones on the car (as well as having to modify them to fit and lacquer them, which all adds to the cost).

I believe I can organise a group buy, so was wondering if peeps would be interested. If so, we can also ensure that a contribution goes to the website for each set sold (say £10), so everyone wins - people get to protect their original items, the register gets some additional funding and my mate has an additional product in his line-up.

Let me know what you think - price would be £300 a pair plus carriage and as said, out of that £10 would go to the Register for every set sold.

If people are offended by the stickers being copied, I can ask for these to be removed - these were the first ones out of the mold.

These are properly made from pre-preg carbon laid up and formed in an autoclave, all as per the original process. In fact the inside part is actually better finished than even the original ones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2001_zpsxct6tefh.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2001_zpsxct6tefh.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2004_zpsjnfvcfsr.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2004_zpsjnfvcfsr.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2003_zpshng5ctnf.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2003_zpshng5ctnf.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2002_zpsoi7hhznv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2002_zpsoi7hhznv.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2007_zpsi3wnsiqp.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2007_zpsi3wnsiqp.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2006_zps6lr8pgal.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2006_zps6lr8pgal.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2005_zpsngygdh4t.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2005_zpsngygdh4t.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2008_zpswvxyfxb1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2008_zpswvxyfxb1.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2009_zpsauyzg6uh.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2009_zpsauyzg6uh.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/MikeR/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2010_zpss5ij20ix.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/MikeR/media/CSL%20stuff/Flippers%2010_zpss5ij20ix.jpg.html)

If they do well, it will also allow him to move on to the rear centre console, where the finish will be replicated as per the door panels and won't crack like the plastic ones, as well as completing the interior of the car off nicely.

khooni
27-08-2015, 09:02 PM
nice.. but i'm interested in the one on your car. Vorsteiner........

why dun you make a replica of that? I'm in

select
27-08-2015, 09:31 PM
Wow great Idea, if i wouldn't own 2 Sets already i would probably take part. If shipping outside UK is not a problem.

But in my opinion, i think the replicated Sticker is going a bit too far.
Why would you want that if not for tricking people into believing that they are genuine parts? Its going to be a mess in the future if you want to buy used, but genuine ones.

Greets Julian

azrael
27-08-2015, 10:00 PM
I could do with a set

alexk
27-08-2015, 11:20 PM
Very nice idea Mike and appreciated.
I support it.


However i bought a month ago the new unlacquered ones (as i sold my spare set to Paul) and i fot them lacquered and they look perfect.
Not sure what you say about the need of triming.

cslsuperfan
27-08-2015, 11:36 PM
Mark

definitely up for a set.......

Mk2's are very poor in comparison.:thumbs:

Mike R
28-08-2015, 09:29 AM
Wow great Idea, if i wouldn't own 2 Sets already i would probably take part. If shipping outside UK is not a problem.

But in my opinion, i think the replicated Sticker is going a bit too far.
Why would you want that if not for tricking people into believing that they are genuine parts? Its going to be a mess in the future if you want to buy used, but genuine ones.

Greets Julian

Shipping worldwide is not a problem - like I said, the stickers were a bit of a miscommunication - I gave him mine and said "copy these" and he did what I asked :bigcry::hahaha:.

People can have them with or without.

However, as an aside (and again to help the forum), these will only be available to paid up members (it's only £10 to join, so no excuse really :p ).

If anyone genuinely wants a set, then please post your interest here and then also PM me for details.

Mike R
28-08-2015, 09:32 AM
nice.. but i'm interested in the one on your car. Vorsteiner........

why dun you make a replica of that? I'm in

Because it would involve removing it from the car (and as it is bonded on as well as fixed in the normal method, I am loathe to go through with all that, unless I had 10 confirmed orders (to justify the cost of doing it)).

NZ_M3
28-08-2015, 12:42 PM
They look quality!

Can I make a suggestion, I would recommend that the mounting hole not be drilled. I have multiple sets of Mk1 splitters and two front bumpers made 2 years apart and I can tell you that the mounting holes are matched to each individual bumper so they will all vary ever ao slightly. If it was me getting a set I would prefer no holes drilled!!

You should get him to start making the roof!!

Mike R
28-08-2015, 12:59 PM
They look quality!

Can I make a suggestion, I would recommend that the mounting hole not be drilled. I have multiple sets of Mk1 splitters and two front bumpers made 2 years apart and I can tell you that the mounting holes are matched to each individual bumper so they will all vary ever ao slightly. If it was me getting a set I would prefer no holes drilled!!

You should get him to start making the roof!!

Comments duly note and they will come undrilled :).

If anyone in the UK had a spare roof sitting around, then this would be easy to do. However, how fussy he (and obviously us CSL owners) are, it would need to be a genuine one to ensure an exact replica to OE(M ;) ) standard.

streightsix
28-08-2015, 01:16 PM
They look quality!

Can I make a suggestion, I would recommend that the mounting hole not be drilled. I have multiple sets of Mk1 splitters and two front bumpers made 2 years apart and I can tell you that the mounting holes are matched to each individual bumper so they will all vary ever ao slightly. If it was me getting a set I would prefer no holes drilled!!

You should get him to start making the roof!!
I have dehumidified my CSL over winter and managed to eliminate most of my roof 'watermarks' but I think I will have to get a new roof within the next year or two MAX ;-(

0-60Motorsports
28-08-2015, 02:52 PM
If I get my refund from Vorsteiner im in for these too. I'll renew my forum membership then. Thanks for doing this, they look amazing.

Marv968
29-08-2015, 11:21 AM
They look great Mike - count me in for a set and I don't mind paying for membership either :thumbs:

Look forward to the rear centre console being done in carbon fibre as well!

CSLScot
29-08-2015, 11:33 AM
Count me in.

Heisenburg
06-09-2015, 09:07 PM
Count me in too Mike...these look quality :thumbs:

...and the Vorsteiner too ;)

Mark CSL
07-09-2015, 11:28 AM
I have dehumidified my CSL over winter and managed to eliminate most of my roof 'watermarks' but I think I will have to get a new roof within the next year or two MAX ;-(


If your roof has the milky marks any good paint shop can repair it
The only thing they must do is wash the roof after sanding it down with clean water to remove all the dust or it will go the same way.

If you want mor info pm me :thumbs:

billyboysm3
07-09-2015, 11:29 AM
If your roof has the milky marks any good paint shop can repair it
The only thing they must do is wash the roof after sanding it down with clean water to remove all the dust or it will go the same way.

If you want mor info pm me :thumbs:

2 sets of splitters coming your way later Mark :)

Mark CSL
07-09-2015, 10:57 PM
cool billy :thumbs:

Marv968
18-10-2015, 06:28 PM
Had my set of flippers arrive earlier this week, they're bloody lovely :thumbs:

Will put them on the car soon, they'll look great along with the new headlight lenses I just fitted :-D

shimmy
18-10-2015, 07:06 PM
Had my set of flippers arrive earlier this week, they're bloody lovely :thumbs:

Will put them on the car soon, they'll look great along with the new headlight lenses I just fitted :-D

How much are lenses and what is code?

mattCSLnut
18-10-2015, 10:00 PM
How much are lenses and what is code?

Shimmy, have a word with Nick @ Elms Parts and ask for CSLR discount :thumbs: although be aware they're no longer made by BOSCH :(

mattCSLnut
18-10-2015, 10:02 PM
Had my set of flippers arrive earlier this week, they're bloody lovely :thumbs:

Will put them on the car soon, they'll look great along with the new headlight lenses I just fitted :-D

I see this Cecil resto lark is catching on Marv ;) :thumbs: ... front kidney grills next I'm guessing :whistle:

Marv968
18-10-2015, 10:48 PM
I see this Cecil resto lark is catching on Marv ;) :thumbs: ... front kidney grills next I'm guessing :whistle:

How did you know!?! :hahaha:

I got mine from ebay, £96 for the pair. They arrived in Bosch boxes, but don't have 'BOSCH' embossed on them anymore, just a small triangle. I think they're still made by Bosch, but by one of their other subsidiaries.

As your pictures show, new lenses make quite a difference!

Marv968
25-10-2015, 10:25 PM
New lens and new flipper:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/Jaberwoky/IMG_20151025_103824.jpg

The flippers are wonderful quality, better than the originals as Mike said.

I'll probably take the front bumper off sometime next year, get it resprayed and fit new kidney grills too, to finish off the front end refresh...it'll give me the chance to try and align the front bumper a bit better too.

Mike R
26-10-2015, 10:23 AM
Looks awesome - thanks to all you lot shaming me into it :bigcry:, mine is being brought up to similar condition with a full front end respray.

Marv, do you think you could send me the ebay link for the light covers (so I can finish it off - when I finally get it back :) ).

select
26-10-2015, 09:49 PM
@Marv968

As far as i am concerned getting the front bumper aligned properly is a nightmare :banghead:

cslsuperfan
26-10-2015, 11:59 PM
@Marv968

As far as i am concerned getting the front bumper aligned properly is a nightmare :banghead:


Absolutely agree

Small adjustments to alter shut lines is a pig.

Manum3
03-11-2015, 08:04 PM
Hi,

I like to Buy a seit Flippers.


Please make me offer. Ship to Germany.

Thank you,

Best regards

Manu

Mike R
04-11-2015, 09:20 AM
Hi Manu,
I need your address details to work out courier cost :).
Best regards

daytonaviolet
10-11-2015, 09:46 PM
I would also like to get a set of these :supz:

Mike R
12-11-2015, 11:45 AM
I would also like to get a set of these :supz:

See post above yours ;).

Manum3
12-11-2015, 09:24 PM
PM sent 👍

gnoy26
20-12-2023, 01:43 AM
very nice! id like a set