38k Miles SG on PH

[Scott]

Anybody on here? Looks like it's got some nice mods on it.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/csl/bmw-m3-csl-smg-----------------2004/4331440

Bang on the money too :smokin:

http://img.pistonheads.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Fullsize/bmw/csl/m3-csl/bmw-csl-m3-csl-S1826669-2.jpg

[MisterCorn]

Suspension looks a bit knackered, or has he pulled a fat bird?

MC

[nw99]

Prices remain firm if they can sell it for that price

[Matt21]

Considering Peter Grays sold so quickly I think this will also, considering the AP brakes, and low mileage. I am assuming all the SH stacks up.

[Chappers]

so what do we think a 121,000-miler is worth these days? :whistle:

[glendog74]

Looks nice albeit a little low on the rear suspension.

[Pooky]

so what do we think a 121,000-miler is worth these days? :whistle:

Nothing with a broken engine

[Pooky]

I think this car would be worth a tad less on the aftermarket suspension, at this price an mileage most would be after a stock car?

[LHutchin]

Owned by a 73 year old? :whistle:

Who has tracked it :hahaha:

[LHutchin]

Considering Peter Grays sold so quickly I think this will also, considering the AP brakes, and low mileage. I am assuming all the SH stacks up.

Not so sure,it's £12k more

Think it's worth more like £42k

[cslsuperfan]

I think this car would be worth a tad less on the aftermarket suspension, at this price an mileage most would be after a stock car?


Depends on the set up IMO.

Nitron, Intrax, to name 2 are superior in quality and performance against OEM suspension.

[Pooky]

Depends on the set up IMO.

Nitron, Intrax, to name 2 are superior in quality and performance against OEM suspension.

Depends what you want, if you want to take the car on a track, yes, for all other purposes, no.

And if you're paying a lot for a car as an investment it will always be worth more as stock.

[billyboysm3]

I dont think anyone would want 12 year old suspension now. Might aswell spend a grand and get all new struts.

[cslsuperfan]

Depends what you want, if you want to take the car on a track, yes, for all other purposes, no.

And if you're paying a lot for a car as an investment it will always be worth more as stock.

Pooky you didn't read what I said. I didn't mention driving on track or modifying versus stock.

What I said is a statement of fact.

[mattCSLnut]

I dont think anyone would want 12 year old suspension now. Might aswell spend a grand and get all new struts.

:thumbs:

[GregorJP]

I dread to say it, but ever since I've sold my previous CSL, I've kept checking back on this forum to see what's happening and whether I might buy another one. I knew I shouldn't have sold it. Ah well. For me, the killer line for this car is:

"A spare set of 4 BBS CSL alloys is also available for £1,200 and are shod with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Tyres which are well worn."

No stranger to the Ring, I imagine. Still, £49k. Nice appreciation.

[CATDT]

Can add some facts to this car as we know the owner and car well. A highly trained driver who has set the car up to satisfy his thirst for track days. He knows how to set the car up and the suspension is all sound. He has never been to the 'Ring. The vehicle has been truly maintained regardless of cost. If we could add it to the CAT fleet, we would without hesitation :smt023

Jo

[Neil M]

Owned by a 73 year old? :whistle:

Who has tracked it :hahaha:

The 4 year ownership by a 73 year old is a bit of a red herring IMO and not particularly relevant to the current sale.
The performance upgrades have been undertaken by the current owner. ;)
I did have to read the ad twice though :hahaha:

[mattCSLnut]

Can add some facts to this car as we know the owner and car well. A highly trained driver who has set the car up to satisfy his thirst for track days. He knows how to set the car up and the suspension is all sound. He has never been to the 'Ring. The vehicle has been truly maintained regardless of cost. If we could add it to the CAT fleet, we would without hesitation :smt023

Jo

:banghead: After all the performance upgrades that's a hugely missed opportunity right there IMHO ;) :whistle:

[Pooky]

Pooky you didn't read what I said. I didn't mention driving on track or modifying versus stock.

What I said is a statement of fact.

Well when you say it like that a fact it must be. I've only been developing, designing and tuning suspension for twenty years so I know sod all about it.

[cslsuperfan]

Well when you say it like that a fact it must be. I've only been developing, designing and tuning suspension for twenty years so I know sod all about it.

Missed this Pooky....I've been so busy revelling in my own self importance.

So stock suspension is superior to aftermarket. At last someone's put me straight and just in the nick of time.

[Pooky]

Missed this Pooky....I've been so busy revelling in my own self importance.

So stock suspension is superior to aftermarket. At last someone's put me straight and just in the nick of time.

To be honest an argument about it is pointless.

If we ever sit down over a coffee I can share with you the vehicle dynamics theory, data I've measured and the reasons why that, yes, on the road, the stock suspension is better.

The real question here though is what is better and that's where we'll never agree.

[glendog74]

Missed this Pooky....I've been so busy revelling in my own self importance.

So stock suspension is superior to aftermarket. At last someone's put me straight and just in the nick of time.

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[Mike R]

To be honest an argument about it is pointless.

If we ever sit down over a coffee I can share with you the vehicle dynamics theory, data I've measured and the reasons why that, yes, on the road, the stock suspension is better.

The real question here though is what is better and that's where we'll never agree.

Better than what though? I have the H&R coilovers and every CSL owner who has stock suspension (which I still have, but have never experienced), who has been in my car, comments on how better it rides than their cars, as well as having better roll-control. This is why I have kept it on the car instead of "upgrading" it to KWs or the like, as I am loath to ruin what seems to be a "win, win" set-up.....

[azrael]

I think going from aftermarket to stock feels like a rolls Royce, its lovely for the road.

After using aftermarket it can feel slightly wallowy though

[billyboysm3]

But brand new suspension and springs are spot on for the road.

[cslsuperfan]

Better than what though? I have the H&R coilovers and every CSL owner who has stock suspension (which I still have, but have never experienced), who has been in my car, comments on how better it rides than their cars, as well as having better roll-control. This is why I have kept it on the car instead of "upgrading" it to KWs or the like, as I am loath to ruin what seems to be a "win, win" set-up.....


Mike, my original comments earlier on in the thread have been misinterpreted leading to holy batman thread deviation.

Have to agree with you and Billy. My experience with oem & aftermarket simply came down to convenience. Intrax, Nitron and other high quality coilovers offer bollock hard for the track and come home time, turn back adjusters a few knotches and enjoy a compliant, Rolls Royce ride home.

:smokin:

[octainejunkee]

Ive just today, got my csl back from being prepped for sale.
The Dixus titanium exhaust,Kw's and AP have all been replaced with the OEM csl parts.
I thought that i would hate driving it home as it would feel a shadow of it's former self.
How wrong i was!
It feels far less raw and menacing but equally, has gained some finesse and grace.

Shame really as i was hoping that i'd fall out of love with her and selling up wouldnt be so hard:hahaha:

a pic in oem form..

http://s21.postimg.org/6z3nq74zb/2015_07_16_22_45_35.jpg[/url]

[glendog74]

:smt055 :smt055

[cslsuperfan]

Ive just today, got my csl back from being prepped for sale.
The Dixus titanium exhaust,Kw's and AP have all been replaced with the OEM csl parts.
I thought that i would hate driving it home as it would feel a shadow of it's former self.
How wrong i was!
It feels far less raw and menacing but equally, has gained some finesse and grace.

Shame really as i was hoping that i'd fall out of love with her and selling up wouldnt be so hard:hahaha:

a pic in oem form..

http://s21.postimg.org/6z3nq74zb/2015_07_16_22_45_35.jpg[/url]

Great to hear you kept the car......for some reason I thought you'd sold up last year.

PS Awesome vid of you chasing down the GTS @ Spa. Dixis is an amazing system. Retro OEM fit seems all the rage at the mo. :thumbs:

[octainejunkee]

It was out of my ownership for a few days last year when i did a part ex deal with another member.
The deal didnt work out for either of us and so we traded back without any hard feelings.

I intended on storing it and using it as a summer weekend car, hence returning it to standard,however, i have the 1M which is also a great bmw and a better road car-both are too valuable to use for regular track work- luckily i also have a few track/hill climb/race cars:hahaha:
So i have come to the decision that i'd rather invest the money tied up in the csl in my business and let someone else enjoy using it.

Ill list it up F/S here soon and hope it doesnt sell too soon as it's really enjoyable to drive in it's standard form and it's fun getting used to it's new (too me) characteristics. -It gets more looks than the 1M still and i will be giving them both a thorough detail and getting some side by side pics done this weekend.

cheers Jamie

[pops]

Dixis exhaust going up for sale?

PM if preferred :thumbs:

[octainejunkee]

Dixis exhaust going up for sale?

PM if preferred :thumbs:


Hi
I've had some really good offers for it in the past (they were 5k new i believe).
I have currently lent it to my pal for his m3 track car, as i cant bring myself to let it go.
I may get a cheap m3 track car in the future and so i'll try and hold onto it for now.
Although common sense may prevail in the near future if i cant free up some funds from selling a few of my cars:hahaha:

cheers for the interest i'll keep you updated.


Jamie

[pops]

Hi
I've had some really good offers for it in the past (they were 5k new i believe).
I have currently lent it to my pal for his m3 track car, as i cant bring myself to let it go.
I may get a cheap m3 track car in the future and so i'll try and hold onto it for now.
Although common sense may prevail in the near future if i cant free up some funds from selling a few of my cars:hahaha:

cheers for the interest i'll keep you updated.


Jamie

Thanks Jamie.

[Neil M]

Ill list it up F/S here soon and hope it doesn't sell too soon as it's really enjoyable to drive in it's standard form and it's fun getting used to it's new (too me) characteristics. -It gets more looks than the 1M still and i will be giving them both a thorough detail and getting some side by side pics done this weekend.

cheers Jamie

Hmmm........http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl------------------2004/4462282

[mattCSLnut]

Hmmm........http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-3-series-e46-m3-csl------------------2004/4462282
Only £37K for a rare RHD SB CSL ?!?! :banghead: What's wrong with it ?

[MisterCorn]

Only £37K for a rare RHD SB CSL ?!?! :banghead: What's wrong with it ?

I think a lot of people prefer the faster SG cars. Other than that ot looks good.

MC

[cslsuperfan]

I think a lot of people prefer the faster SG cars. Other than that ot looks good.

MC


Let battle commence :gayfight:

[Rick H]

Only £37K for a rare RHD SB CSL ?!?! :banghead: What's wrong with it ?

Just wouldn't suit my SG cat . . .

[0836whimper]

Magnesium alloys fail.

[VW Sportline]

I think a lot of people prefer the faster SG cars. Other than that ot looks good.

MC


Am I missing something here I thought the SB and SG cars had the same engine so the same bhp.

[mattCSLnut]

Am I missing something here I thought the SB and SG cars had the same engine so the same bhp.

They do :thumbs: it's just some SB owners like to be a little different and think otherwise ;) It's just a bit of CSLR humour.
p.s. How's your SB CSL refresh coming along ?

[Trawler]

They do :thumbs: it's just some SB owners like to be a little different and think otherwise ;) It's just a bit of CSLR humour.
p.s. How's your SB CSL refresh coming along ?

Not think, we know our SB cesils are faster. :thumbs::hahaha:

[VW Sportline]

They do :thumbs: it's just some SB owners like to be a little different and think otherwise ;) It's just a bit of CSLR humour.
p.s. How's your SB CSL refresh coming along ?

The bonnet ,wings and bumper are now looking brand new,bought some brand new splitters ,it's going in the garage next week to have some poly bushes so in about say 2 weeks it will be ready for viewing and hopefully offers.

[cslsuperfan]

Am I missing something here I thought the SB and SG cars had the same engine so the same bhp.


Gotcha!!!!!